How well did you actually know him?
你真正了解他多少?
Obviously she knew him very well
看起来她和他很熟
Sexual fetishes are all about role playing
性♥欲♥物神都是角色扮演
She probably never knew his real name
她也许连他真名都不知道
We met online over a year ago
我们一年多前在网上认识
We were a match I mean compatible in every way
我们很相配 我们在各个方面都很和谐
You have no idea how hard it is to find the perfect pony
你不知道 找到一匹完美的马有多难
Don't look at me
别看我
Mr. Ed was easyto handle but ht mindlessly obedient
Ed先生很容易驾驭 但他也不是一味的服从
Okay
很好
And yes we had sex if that's your next question
是的 我们发生了性关系 如果你接着要问的话
When did you first meet in person so that you could you know um
你们什么时候第一次单独见面 这样就可以
ride him?
骑他?
Six months ago
6个月前
I fell in love with him
我爱上他了
Meaning what a little light whipping?
什么意思?轻轻鞭打他?
When I say love I don't mean romantically
我说爱 不是指的浪漫意义的爱
I mean the way a young girl feels about her first pony
我指的是年轻女孩 对她第一匹心爱的小马驹那种感觉
Have you ever heard of anything like one pony fighting another?
你有没有听说过 类似马之间打架的事?
No
没有
No pony play is not like that
不会的 这个游戏不是那样的
Mr. Ed's body was found only a few miles from here
Ed的尸体就在几英里外被发现
Evidence on the body suggested an equine fetish
尸体上的证据可以看出对马的物神崇拜
So you understand
现在你应该明白
why we might think that someone from your sex game community killed him?
为什么我们会认为 你们的性游戏团体中有人杀了他
You should talk to his wife
你们应该和他妻子谈谈
His wife? His wife?
他妻子? 他妻子?
Yes she showed up here and the next morning ed was gone
是的 她那天来这里 第二天早上 Ed就走了
Oh well he didn't just run off and join a band of wild mustangs now did he?
他不是离开你 去当别人的野马了吧?
You know I'm speaking to you willingly without a lawyer present
我是自愿和你们谈话 没有律师在场
you could at least pretend to show me some respect
你至少应该假装尊重我一点
Yeah I'll try
好的 我尽量
The night ed took off I was in the stables with him
Ed走之前那天晚上 我和他一起在马厩
I'd worked him hard that day and was rubbing him down
那天他被我折腾得很辛苦 晚上我帮他按♥摩♥
Which is when she caught us
这时候她抓到了我们
Did you know he was married?
你知道他结婚了吗?
I didn't want to marry the man I just wanted to play with the pony
我没想过要和他结婚 我只是想进行小马游戏
How did he react when he saw his wife?
他看见她妻子什么反应?
He never broke character
他还没从角色中走出来
What?
什么?
He remained a pony
他继续做小马
I finished rubbing him down and I went to bed alone
按♥摩♥完后 我自己去睡觉
The next morning at breakfast he was gone
第二天早饭时 他就不见了
I assumed he went back to his wife
我猜想他跟他妻子回去了
Okay I'd appreciate if you kept the fact that ed milner was murdered to yourself
很好 Ed Milner被谋杀这事 希望你能保密
What's worse?
哪种情况更糟?
Okay finding out that your spouse is having an affair or finding out that
是发现自己的配偶有奸♥情♥ 还是发现
he has a secret life as a pony?
他扮演小马的隐秘生活?
Pony fetishism has been around since the greeks
马的物神情结从古希腊时代就开始了
Had to have been the wife right?
一直是妻子扮演的吧?
Aristotle extolled the joys of being ridden like a horse
亚里士多德盛赞做马时的愉悦
Aristotle also thought that the purpose of the human heart was to solve math problems
亚里士多德也以为人心是用来做数学题的
I'm surprised you know that
想不到你知道这个
Oh it turns out I'm smarter than a fifth grader
你才发现我"比五年级的小朋友聪明" (FOX的同名节目)
In victorian england scantily clad women put on erotic shows dressed as ponies
在维多利亚时期的英国 就有女性 在色情表演中扮成小马
Just saying wife sees some woman in a harness rubbing her husband down
这么说吧 妻子看到一个女人穿着马具 磨蹭着她丈夫
while he's nibbling on oats?
而他还一边吃着燕麦?
That's harsh
真是刺目
In 16th century turkey the king kept stables of pony girls and pony boys for his pleasure
在16世纪的土耳其 国王有一厩的 马男和马女来娱乐
Okay the king of turkey was a freak
行了 土耳其王是个怪胎
Why are you being so judgmental?
你怎么这么武断?
When you turn someone into an obeasure it's wrong
把人当作性玩物是不对的
How do you know?
你怎么知道?
It says in the bible
圣经里说的
It does not
才不是呢
Then it got left out by mistake
那就是不小心落下了
We are all hard wired differently
人与人各不相同
If someone needs to shout giddyup to heighten arousal what's wrong with that?
如果有人需要喊"驾"才能提高性♥欲♥ 又有什么不对?
Maybe if ed lived like a man he wouldn't have died like a horse
如果Ed活得像个人 他就不会死得像匹马了
That's all
就这样
You knew your husband wasn't in florida
你知道你丈夫不在佛罗里达
Yes I lied
是的 我撒谎了
Why?
为什么?
I was married to ed for nine years
我跟Ed结婚九年了
We have kids
我们有孩子
My first concern was to make sure that they didn't find out their father was a pervert
我最关心的是别让孩子发现 他们的爸爸是个性变♥态♥
So his fetish was a surprise to you?
他的物神崇拜让你很惊讶吗?
Try a complete shock
简直是震惊
Why would ed do that?
Ed为什么干那种事?
We had a good sex life
我们有很好的性生活
More likely there was a part of your husband that
其实你丈夫有些时候并不
could never have been satisfied by love alone
满足于单纯的性♥爱♥
Bones that's one of those we
Bones 那是 我们
how did you track him down?
你怎么知道他在那儿?
What?
什么?
Well I mean you didn't just you know wander into his
我是说 你不是碰巧走进
uh his stable or paddock or whatever
他的马厩 或说是围场
No I really did think he was in orlando on a business trip
不 我真的以为他在奥兰多出差
I got a call
我接到个电♥话♥
From whom?
谁打的?
A man
一个男人
He said ed was with another woman and told me where I could find them
他说Ed跟别的女人在一起 还告诉我他们在哪
He didn't mention the pony stuff
他没提到扮成马的事
Did you recognize his voice?
你听得出他的声音吗?
No
不
Anything distinctive at all?
一点特征都没有?
An accent
他有口音
Um australian maybe english
澳大利亚人或英国人
So you walked in on ed and his um
你看见Ed和他的
rider
骑手
Rider
骑手
Is that what they call it?
他们是这么叫的吗?
What happened next?
然后发生了什么?
I gohell out of there I drove me
我就出来了 回了家
Did you hear from him again?
你后来有看见他吗?
No I engaged a divorce torney right away
不 我马上就约好了离婚律师
who said all communications should go through her
她说任何交流都必须通过她
Did anyone see you come home that night?
有人看见你那晚回家吗?
Why is that important?
这很重要吗?
I k know why that's important mrs Milner
我想你知道为什么重要 Milner夫人
Agent booth if I had killed my husband
Booth警探 如果我杀了我丈夫
then I wouldn't need a divorce lawyer would I?
我就不需要离婚律师 是吧?
No but you would need an alibi
不 但你需要不在场证明
you don't think she did it hmm?
你认为不是她干的
No
对
Nt to put that down?
放下那个?
Ause of the whole lawyer/alibi thing?
就因为 律师和不在场证明的事?
No because of the feet cut off thing
不 因为砍下脚这事
It was ritualistic
是某种仪式
The killer knew about horses
凶手了解马
Or maybe she started cutting him into little bits to scatter across the countryside
也许她想把他切成一块块的 便于抛尸
and it was too much workaybe it made her sick
但实在太多了 或是她觉得恶心
Ore wouldn't fit in the trunk
或是脚正好装不进后车箱
Booth we are immersed in a culture here
Booth 我们说的是一种文化
Pony play is a culture?
扮演小马是种文化?
Anthropologically speaking
从人类学角度说 是
And not just because of the feet
不光因为脚
Ed's hands were tied together
Ed的双手被绑在一起
historically ranchers bound the front two legs of horses to prevent them from straying
历史上牧场主将马的两只前肢绑起来 为了防止马匹走失
Not to mention all the other equine attribu associated with this case
更别说涉及到的其他马的特征
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