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考克雷克警长有让伯恩森女士
Did Sheriff Kocourek tell Mrs. Beerntsen
无论如何也要在文件上签字吗
to sign the document anyhow?
我不记得有听到过这话
I have no recollection of ever hearing that.
巡警员 阿兰德·埃弗里
其他警探们告诉我 当时
I was told by other detectives that, at that point,
他们拿到了一张史蒂文过去刑事拘留记录里的照片
they've got a photograph of Stevie from the old jail records.
他们把照片拿到医院
They brought it down,
1985年1月3日
桑德拉·莫里斯案
马尼托沃克县警局
威斯康星州 马尼托沃克县
时任总副警长的尤金·库舍
and the Chief Deputy Eugene Kusche that time,
根据照片画了一幅嫌犯画像
made a composite drawing of that photograph,
而不是根据她的记忆
rather than doing it from her memory.
然后他们把它拿给伯恩森女士看
And then they showed that to Mrs. Beerntsen...
她说"是的 就是他"
who said, "Yeah, that's him."
接着他们把他的存档照片以及其他几个人的
Then they took that jail photograph
混在一起给她看
and did a photo lineup.
伯恩森女士选出了他的照片
And Mrs. Beerntsen picked out that photograph.
如果你看了潘妮·伯恩森的原始描述
I mean, if you look at Penny Beerntsen's original description,
潘妮·伯恩森的询问记录
包括身高 体重 眼睛颜色等
as far as height, weight, eye color, all kinds of stuff,
一米七左右
棕色瞳孔
史蒂文都完全不符合
Steven did not fit that description.
长发
史蒂文的头发不合 体型不合 一切都不合
Steven's hair didn't fit, the build, everything.
矮壮结实
他不符合那份描述
He didn't fit that description.
但是朱蒂·德弗拉克说他符合
But Judy Dvorak said he did. I mean, wow.
他们给潘妮·伯恩森看史蒂文的照片
So they show Penny Beerntsen Steven's picture,
然后又让她做嫌犯辨认
and then she sees a lineup later
可她在那之前只见过史蒂文一人
and Steven is the only person she's seen before.
此外 副警长还附和道
Plus, she had the sheriff's deputy saying,
"天啊 这听上去就像是这人"
"Gee, I think it sounds like this guy."
十分具有暗示性
That's pretty suggestive.
总副警长 尤金·库舍
尤金·库舍总副警长
马尼托沃克县县警局 1979-2003
库舍先生 我有一张
Mr. Kusche, I have one
大幅的装裱了的嫌犯画像
large framed composite drawing,
能把画像拿到桌上
if we could bring that up on the table
2005年10月26日
埃弗里诉马尼托沃克县政♥府♥ 取证
并摆放进摄像机镜头中吗
and put it in camera range.
好的
Yes, sir.
-是你装裱的这幅画像吗 -是的
- Did you cause this to be framed? - Yes, sir.
好 为什么要这么做
OK. Why'd you do that?
这是我的第一幅嫌犯画像
It was my first composite.
是我唯一一幅在庭审中被使用过的
It was the only one I ever did that was used in a court case.
我想这能给我的办公室
And I thought it'd make a interesting, uh...
增添点趣味
display in my office.
我说这幅画像非常巧合地和你那晚能拿到的
Would you agree with me that it's pretty remarkably coincidental that
史蒂文·埃弗里在1985年1月拍的存档照
that would depict Steven Avery's January 1985 mug photo,
非常一致 你同意吗
which was available to you that evening?
首先 照片我拿不到
One, the photo wasn't available to me.
-拿不到吗 -拿不到
- No? - No.
不在当时的一系列资料吗
It wasn't in the array?
我画完素描后才看到的
After I drew the sketch, I saw it.
好 所以你确实能拿到
OK, so it was available to you.
-不能 -照片是在当晚
- No. - It was around that evening,
从监狱被带到医院的 对吗
it had been brought over from the jail to the hospital, right?
-我不知道什么时候到的 -你是说
- I don't know when it arrived. - You're just saying...
你发誓你没有看到照片
You're telling us under oath you didn't look at it.
我说我没有看到它
I'm telling you I didn't see it
我不知道在我开始作画前 它是否在那里
and I didn't know if it was there before I started the sketch either.
我的素描是根据受害者的...
My sketch is what the victim had me draw...
-对 -所见而画的
- Right. - ...as what she saw.
我们很尴尬地给他们展示
We were able to present embarrassingly,
史蒂文的老照片和我们后来拿到的照片的不同
the difference between an older photograph and what we then had,
也就是史蒂文·埃弗里
which was the photograph from that night
当晚实际样子的照片
as to how Steven Avery actually looked.
这让我们可以辩称
That opened the door to us being able to argue
库舍是根据
that Kusche drew the composite
他们已有的史蒂文·埃弗里的
from the photograph of Steven Avery
存档照而作画的
that was already in their files.
同时还能辩称...
And to argue that...
汤姆·考克雷克警长
马尼托沃克县县警局 1979-2001
如果没有警长的参与
that never would've happened
就不会发生这种事
without the sheriff's participation as well.
换言之
In other words,
和史蒂文·埃弗里对簿公堂
that they made the case against Steven Avery
是那晚他们自己造成的
that night themselves.
在我进监狱的时候 警长跟我说"我抓到你了"
The sheriff told me "I got you now" when I got to jail.
而其他警♥察♥什么也做不了
And the other cops couldn't do nothing.
没人能做任何事
Nobody could do nothing.
他独揽大权
He had all the power.
公共辩护律师办公室每天都会得到
The Public Defender's Office got a list every day
马尼托沃克县监狱
一份前一晚被捕人员的名单
of who had been arrested the night before.
这样公共辩护律师
And that was so the public defender
才能确保他们在第一次出庭时
could go in and make sure they had an attorney
有律师陪同
for their first appearance.
但是史蒂文的名字却不在名单上
But Steven's name wasn't on the list.
我知道他在监狱的唯一原因是
And the only reason I knew he was in jail...
他们知道我之前是他的律师
and they knew I was his lawyer,
因为马尼托沃克是个小城
because Manitowoc was a small town...
洛丽给我打电♥话♥说他进了监狱
Lori called me and told me he was in jail.
所以我过去要求见他
So I went over and asked to see him.
副警长跟我说
And the deputy told me
汤姆·考克雷克警长
警长下令
that the sheriff had ordered
史蒂文的名字不得出现在拘留人员名单上
that Steven's name not be on the jail list,
不得接触电♥话♥
不得接触电♥话♥ 这是违法的
that he not be allowed any access to the phone, which is illegal,
不允许任何人探视他
that he not be allowed any visitors,
要求他被单独监禁
and that he be held in a cell block all by himself
这样他就接触不了任何人
so he could have no contact with anybody.
警长不想让他和任何人说话
The sheriff didn't want him to be able to talk to anybody,
包括律师
including a lawyer.
我从前和之后都没遇到过这种情况
And I never ever saw that before or since.
他有权打电♥话♥
I mean, he had a right to have a phone call,
有权请律师
he had a right to have an attorney.
有权被平等对待
He had a right to be treated just like anybody else.
马尼托沃克县警局
威斯康星州 马尼托沃克县
潘妮·伯恩森一案
That Penny Beerntsen case
从一开始就被特殊对待
was just treated so differently from day one,
而之前的莫里斯案也是如此
and it had already started with the whole Morris case.
早间新闻
Morning news.
马尼托沃克 WCUB广播
一马里贝尔男子
A Maribel area man
今天仍然被关押在马尼托沃克县监狱 不得保释
remains in the Manitowoc County jail without bail today
他是昨天下午一位马尼托沃克女子
in connection with the brutal beating and the sexual assault
被残忍♥殴打和性侵一案的嫌犯
of a Manitowoc woman yesterday afternoon.
23岁的史蒂文·埃弗里被马尼托沃克县
23-year-old Steven Avery was denied bail
地方检察官丹尼斯·沃格尔拒绝保释
on a motion of Manitowoc County District Attorney Denis Vogel,
也是他引证了埃弗里的前科
who cited Avery's past record.
这不是一次普通的暴♥力♥性侵
This is not only a violent sexual assault,
而是针对该社区领袖的
it's a violent sexual assault
一次暴♥力♥性侵
of someone who is a leader of the community.
她是马尼托沃克的
I mean, a shining example
史蒂芬·格林
史蒂文的民权律师
市民光辉模范
of what Manitowoc would like its citizens to be.
伯恩森美食
糖果·自♥制♥冰淇淋·午餐
伯恩森一家在城中拥有几家
The Beerntsens owned commercial enterprises
人气很高的商店
that were popular and occupied a central place in the town.
汤姆·伯恩森被称为
Tom Beerntsen was described
过去十年间最让
as being one of the best things to happen
马尼托沃克骄傲的人物
to Manitowoc in the last decade.
伯恩森斩获全国基♥督♥教青年会风云人物
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