心灵猎人

Mindhunter S02E09

Part 8 Nov. 24, 2019, 4:39 p.m.

They're desperate to pin these murders on someone,
他们非常清楚如果他们逮捕一个白人
and they know damn well if they arrest a white man,
这座城市会群情激愤
this city will burn.
你想要什么威廉姆斯先生
What do you want, Mr. Williams?
想得到清静
To be left alone.
以及来自联调局探员的道歉
And an apology from those FBI agents
他们昨晚一直威胁和控诉我
who spent last night threatening me and accusing me.
-我想他指的是你 -或你
- I think he's referring to you. - Or you.
你认识哪位受害人吗
Did you know any of the victims?
不认识先生
No, sir.
你想对受害人的家人说些什么吗
Do you want to say anything to the families of the victims?
美国有线新闻网直播
采访韦恩·威廉姆斯
我和孩子一起共事所以我知道
Well, I work with children so I know
有些孩子出现在
some of these kids are in places
他们不该去的地方
they don't have no business being in.
无人看管他们只是在大街上乱跑
Got no supervision. They're just runnin' the streets.
我要说的是当你这样做的时候...
And I'm saying, while you're doing that...
当然这并不赋予任何人杀人的权利
That's not giving anyone a license to kill...
但你这样做就会面临各种遭遇
But you open yourself up to all types of things.
不好的遭遇
Bad things.
威廉姆斯先生联调局要求你做过测谎吗
Mr. Williams, did the FBI ask you to take a polygraph test?
是的我是自愿的测试结果无定论
Yes. And I did so voluntarily. It was considered inconclusive.
什么样的杀人嫌犯会在没有律师和准备的情况下
What suspected murderer risks holding a press conference
冒险举办记者会
with no lawyer and no preparation?
确信自己永远不会被抓的人
Someone who's certain he'll never be caught.
或者是因为被冤枉而非常恼火的人
Or someone who's really pissed of being wrongly accused.
我们去和你的线人聊聊
Let's go talk to your pigeon.
当我说我没杀人时他们管我叫骗子
When I said I didn't, they called me a liar.
你说你认识韦恩·威廉姆斯吗
You said you know Wayne Williams?
是的我和韦恩常一起打球
Yeah. Me and Wayne play ball together.
有时候还会一起做音乐
Sometimes we do music on the side.
如果我告诉你们我知道的事你们又用上了的话
If I tell y'all what I know, and y'all use it,
我就能得到赏金对吗
I get that reward, right?
我们先聊一会再看看有没有必要打给市长
Let's chat for a while, then see if I need to call the mayor.
好的
Okay.
马可斯先生你有什么能告诉我们的
So, Mr. Marcus, what can you tell us?
韦恩其实不像外界看到的那样
Well, you see, Wayne ain't like you always see him.
-他是双子座 -他的星座吗
- He's a Gemini. - His horoscope?
是啊就是一对双胞胎的那个
Yeah, you know, like, the twins.
只是你永远不知道会遇到韦恩哪一面
Except with Wayne, you never know which one you're gonna get.
-其中一面比另一面更糟吗 -是的
- And one is worse than the other? - Oh, yeah.
他有时候会生气
He can get angry sometimes.
他看起来不像但他会生气
He doesn't look like it, but he can.
韦恩会对什么事生气呢
What does Wayne get angry about?
前阵子有人过来募捐
A while back, some folks came around looking for donations,
为了帮忙找到那些失踪的孩子
you know, to help find those missing kids.
-我本来要放点钱进去... -很慷慨
- Well, I was gonna put something in... - Very generous.
是啊但韦恩叫我不要浪费钱
Well, yeah, but Wayne told me don't waste the money.
他说那些死掉的孩子只不过是一群男妓
He said those dead kids were nothing but a bunch of prostitutes
整夜在街上游荡
hanging around the streets all night long.
他把那些被害人称为男妓
He called the victims prostitutes?
他说得就像那些人被杀是好事
He acted like it was a good thing.
说他们就是废柴给黑人带来坏名声
Said that they were drop shots and giving us a bad name.
说我们如此努力工作却什么也成就不了
Said we work so hard, but we can't get nothing done.
废柴是什么
What's a drop shot?
没有任何价值的人
Anybody who ain't worth much of nothing.
可以随意弄死他们让他们消失
You just shoot 'em, drop 'em, get 'em gone.
有可能构成杀人动机
Could go to motive.
就像他是在清理社会
Like he was cleaning up the streets.
或者是更私人的动机
Or it's more personal.
韦恩的父母很晚才生的他
Wayne's parents have him late,
给了他成功的一切条件
give him everything to succeed.
他在学校很努力
He works hard at school,
他很聪明运营自己的电台
he's smart, runs his own radio station.
下一个贝瑞·高迪
The next Berry Gordy.
美国著名唱片制♥作♥人
1959年创立摩城唱片公♥司♥
谁
Who?
-不重要 -但一切都枯竭了
- Never mind. - But everything dries up.
电台关闭他从大学辍学
Radio station gets closed down, he drops out of college.
韦恩从来没有发挥出全部潜力
Wayne never reaches his full potential.
为什么呢
Why?
他相信这是因为他被当成是普通的黑人小孩
He believes it's because he's seen as just another black kid.
这是他无法摆脱的束缚
It's a box he can't get out of.
那他要向谁发泄呢
So who does he take it out on?
穷黑人小孩
Poor black kids.
他试图重新掌控人生
He's trying to regain control.
就像伯科威茨坎伯
Like Berkowitz, Kemper.
深受能力不足和失败折磨的男人
Men plagued by inadequacy and failure.
威廉姆斯不是为自己的性向感到羞耻
Williams isn't ashamed of his sexuality,
他是耻于自己没能获得成功
he's ashamed of his failure to achieve.
这就是为什么他吹嘘自己夸大自己
That's why he talks himself up. That's why he exaggerates.
也许这也是他杀人的原因
Maybe that's why he kills.
符合你自恋的分♥析♥角度
Plays to your narcissist angle.
但就算这位公民责任先生说的是真的
But even if Mr. Civic Duty is telling the truth,
也没有实质性的东西
there's nothing material there.
没有证据霍顿只是理论而已
It's not evidence, Holden. It's a theory.
而且我们知道仅靠"心理学"
And we know we're not getting an arrest warrant
是申请不到逮捕令的
based on "psychology."
不过现在韦恩成了媒体宠儿他闯个红灯
Now that Wayne's a sideshow, he can't even jaywalk
都能上夜间新闻
without being on the nightly news.
他危害下一位受害者的几率为零
The likelihood of him snatching another victim is zero.
失望了
Disappointed?
我要回酒店了
I'm going to the hotel.
喝杯酒打个电♥话♥给老婆你来吗
Have a drink, call my wife. You coming?
行
Yeah.
我们的管辖权是有联邦指导方针的
There are federal guidelines regarding our jur...
-也许你能成为我们的一员 -调回去
- Maybe you can be one of us. - Go back.
-成为光荣的... -我们别无办法只能插手
- The few, the proud... - We simply had to get involved.
联调局已经在亚特兰大查了几个月了
The bureau's been in Atlanta for several months now.
联邦机构加入会给调查带来怎样的影响
How has a federal presence affected the investigation?
我们的探员在个案上
Our agents augment the efforts
帮助了专案组
of the task force in individual cases,
而且针对许多我们认为有关联的案子
and we've made progress in our own investigations
我们的调查也取得了很大的进展
into many of the crimes that we believe are linked.
但就逮捕而言
With regards to arrests,
到目前完全没有
the sum total during the investigation so far has been zero.
而媒体也始终被告知没有嫌疑人
And the press is consistently told there are no suspects.
威廉·H·韦伯斯特
你能详细讲下目前取得的进展吗
Can you be specific on the progress you've made?
-我认为进展很重大 -他在干什么
- I believe it's significant. - What's he doing?
我有信心很快就能抓到罪犯
I am quietly confident that an arrest is imminent.
-给我们设最后期限 -现在有嫌疑人吗
- Putting us on a deadline. - You have a suspect?
现阶段我不会透露任何细节
I'm not going to give details at this time,
但很快就会有消息了
but we should have some information soon.
23岁的韦恩·威廉姆斯
Twenty-three-year-old Wayne Williams,
是一名星探和音乐经纪人
a talent agent and music promoter.
虽然执法部门称不会进行逮捕
While law enforcement has said only that there will be no arrest,
但威廉姆斯还是向记者们透露了一丝...
Williams gave reporters a glimpse...
亚特兰大儿童凶杀案嫌犯
他今天出过房♥子吗
Has he left the house today?
韦恩没有
Not Wayne.
倒是霍默出来拍下了摄影师们
Homer came out and took photographs of the photographers.
你在新闻上面看到韦伯斯特了吗
You see Webster on NewsHour?
你觉得斯雷顿改变主意了吗
Think Slaton's changed his mind?
我觉得有人清楚表达了希望他改变主意
I think somebody's making it clear they want him to.
化验结果出来了吗
Any news from the lab?
皮特森检出卧室地毯的纤维与14名受害者身上的匹配
Peterson's matched carpet fibers from his bedroom to 14 victims.
狗毛与5名符合
The dog hair to five.
可惜地检根本不关心这些科学术语
Shame the DA doesn't care for all that scientific mumbo jumbo.
-威廉姆斯先生 -威廉姆斯先生看这边
- Mr. Williams! - Mr. Williams! Come on!
让我拍一张
Give me a picture!
我在这守了一夜了你来跟吗