法律与秩序（1990）

Law & Order S20E13

Part 5 Feb. 5, 2022, 8:43 p.m.

What happened next?
他说这下我们得把他们都杀了
He said, "Now we have to kill them all."
然后他去拿了他随身放在包里的小斧子
And he went and he got this hatchet that he would keep in his backpack,
佐伊的爸爸刚刚从浴室里出来
and Zoe's dad was walking out of the bathroom,
他冲他发疯了
and he just went crazy on him.
然后他走进卧室
And then he went into the bedroom,
我能听到他杀害佐伊的母亲
and I could hear him killing Zoe's mom,
然后他他走进佐伊弟弟的房♥间
and then he--he went into Zoe's little brother's room,
他说他找不到他但是
and he just--he said that he couldn't find him, but...
继续阿曼达
Go on, Amanda.
我可以
I could--
我可以听到佐伊弟弟轻声哭泣的声音
I could hear Zoe's little brother crying really soft.
所以我告诉贾斯汀他躲在衣柜里
So I told Justin that he was hiding in the closet.
贾斯汀杀了他
Justin killed him.
之后他走进走廊
And then he went into the hallway,
他把刀捅进了佐伊爸爸的脖子
and he stuck his knife in Zoe's dad's neck,
然后我们就离开了
and we left.
我来明确一下埃文斯女士
Just to be clear, Miss Evans,
你说你没有亲自杀害任何一个人吗
you're saying that you didn't do any of the killing yourself?
是这样吗
Is that right?
是的都是贾斯汀干的
Yes, Justin did it.
请告诉陪审团你现在住在哪里
Tell the jury where you live now.
一家精神病院
A psychiatric hospital.
因为你被认为在法律上精神失常
Because you've been found to be legally insane,
有失去方向和失忆的症状对吗
subject to disorientation and memory lapses, right?
是的
Yes.
没有问题了
No more questions.
左边的照片是在被告人的笔记本电脑上发现的
The photo on the left was found on the defendant's laptop.
是从他房♥间里的一个相机传上去的
It was uploaded there from a camera found in his room.
如果把这张照片和犯罪现场调查团队拍的照片做对比
If you compare this photo to the one taken by our crime scene unit,
你可以看到那里有一些脚印
you can see there are fewer footprints.
这说明他的照片是在谋杀现场拍摄的
This indicates his photo was taken at the murder scene.
谢谢
Thank you.
法官大人辩护方保留对这位证人交叉询问的权利
Your honor, the defense reserves our cross-examination of this witness
到我们呈现完毕自己的案子之后
until after we've presented our case.
好的
Granted.
证人将接受重新传召
The witness will remain available for recall.
打扰一下
Excuse me?
怎么了警探
Yes, detective?
我认识你对吧
I know you, right?
是的你认识我
Yes, you do.
我当时用的是我婚前的名字
I went by my maiden name back then.
维罗妮卡·帕尔默
Veronica Palmer?
你现在想起来了
Now you remember.
待会儿见警探
See you soon, detective.
我们可以从我们布鲁克林家的阳台上看到燃烧的双子塔
We could see the twin towers burn from our balcony in Brooklyn.
贾斯汀总是从阳台跑回电视前
Justin kept running from the balcony to the TV.
他们一直在放飞机撞上双子塔的画面
They--They kept showing the planes going into the towers,
人们跳楼的图像循环播放
the--the people jumping, over and over again.
我关了电视他还会重新打开
I'd turn it off, and he'd turn it back on.
他当时才11岁
He was just 11.
他对那些画面作何反应
And how did he react to those images?
好几个星期的时间他都会在半夜惊醒
For weeks, he'd wake up in the middle of the night.
有几次他还尿床了
A few times, he even wet his bed.
关于贾斯汀的音乐兴趣你有什么可以告诉我们的吗
And what can you tell us about Justin's interest in music?
他12岁的时候我的男朋友带他去了死亡金属音乐演唱会
When he was 12, I had this boyfriend who took him to a death metal concert.
歌♥手在台上咬下了一只鸟的头
Um, and this singer onstage bit off this bird's head.
贾斯汀哭着回家的
Justin came home crying.
我的男朋友嘲笑他是个娘娘腔
My boyfriend was laughing and calling him a-a sissy.
贾斯汀的音乐品位发生了什么变化
And what happened to Justin's musical tastes?
他开始喜欢金属音乐
He started getting into metal
之后是恐怖说唱
and then horrorcore.
他在家里大声播放
He blasted it in the house.
谢谢
Thank you.
萨克斯夫人你有没有带贾斯汀去做过精神科检查
Mrs. Sachs, did you ever take Justin for a psychiatric evaluation?
没有
No.
他的学校有没有给你打过电♥话♥ 警告他的行为
Did his school ever call you with complaints about his behavior?
没有他是个好学生
No, he was a-a good student.
这么说他是个好学生从来没有做出过令人担心的事情
So a good student whose behavior never aroused anyone's concerns?
谢谢你
Thank you.
经历过911事件的孩子们
The children who lived through the events of 9/11,
在两场战争的高清画面中长大成人
who came of age during two wars they could watch every night in vivid high-def,
他们接受的恐怖画面数量是前所未有的
have been exposed to an unprecedented barrage of horrific imagery.
这种经历的影响现在才开始被理解
The impact of this experience is only now starting to be understood.
根据你对贾斯汀的检查
From your examination of Justin,
如此大量的视频对他造成了什么影响
what impact has this barrage had on him?
他表现出对暴♥力♥不敏感的迹象
He exhibits signs of being desensitized to violence
同时沉迷于他从暴♥力♥中获得的刺♥激♥
and, at the same time, being addicted to the thrill that he derives from it.
你能给我们举例说明贾斯汀对暴♥力♥不敏感吗
Can you give us an example of how Justin has become desensitized to violence?
举例来说
Well, for example,
贾斯汀收集的这些关于双子塔的图片
these images of the twin towers that Justin has collected,
对于我们来说双子塔代表着一桩惨剧
while for us the twin towers represent a great tragedy,
对贾斯汀来说它们被当做笑料
for Justin, they're an icon being used as a punch line.
这种冷酷的幽默在患有创伤后应激障碍的士兵身上很常见
This callous humor is typically seen in soldiers suffering from PTSD.
谢谢
Thank you.
所以你是把看血腥照片的压力等同于参与战争的压力吗
So you're equating the stress of seeing a gory picture to the stress of being in combat?
对于一个十一二岁的孩子来说
For a child of 11 or 12,
暴♥力♥的形象可能和真实情形一样令人不安
the image of violence can be as upsetting as the real thing.
我们听到证言说贾斯汀在发现他的女朋友
Now, we heard testimony that Justin flew into a rage
给别的男生发短♥信♥时陷入狂暴
when he found out his girlfriend was texting another boy.
嫉妒是创伤后应激障碍的症状吗？
Is jealousy a symptom of PTSD?
我确实得说并不是
I'd have to say that it is not.
医生嫉妒也不是谋杀的抗辩对吗
And, doctor, jealousy is not a defense to murder, correct?
没错
Correct.
不是
It is not.
谢谢
Thank you.
如今孩子们看的东西
Nowadays with what the kids see,
一想到它们会有什么影响我就不寒而栗
I shudder to think what effect it has.
在玫瑰色的纯真中长大
Growing up in rose-colored innocence
也没有阻止我们创造孩子们正在目睹的暴♥力♥世界不是吗
didn't keep us from creating the violent world our kids are watching, did it?
卡特先生我可以和你说句话吗
Mr. Cutter, may I speak to you, please?
当然
Sure.
你得阻止那个律师再传我回证人席
You got to keep that lawyer from calling me back to the stand.
我不能这么做她有权对你进行交叉询问
I can't. She has the right to cross-examine you.
拜托你是个高明的家伙
Come on, you're a sharp guy.
你一定能做些什么的
There's got to be something you can do.
警探有什么问题吗
Detective, what's the problem here?
帮帮我吧麦克拜托了
Just help me out here, Mike, please.
这我无能为力
Th-There's nothing I can do.
好吧那你得罩着我点
Okay, then you got to cover me.
我可以谈论这个案子
I'll talk about the case,
但是只要那个律师偏离这个案子一丝一毫
but if that lawyer veers off the subject by one comma,
你得赶快介入中止她
you got to jump in and stop it.
明天见
See you tomorrow.
你怎么能这样对你的搭档呢
This is no way to treat your partner...
搭档
partner.
你想让我对你严刑逼供吗
Look, do you want me to beat it out of you?
你知道我做得到的
Because you know that I can.
那位律师和我在一起老案子里见过面
That lawyer knows me from an old case.
然后呢
And?
那是十年前的圣诞节上午
It was ten years ago, it was Christmas morning,
我被叫到一个犯罪现场三人被杀
I got called out to a crime scene. It was a triple.
一个家伙干掉了他的全家妻子和两个孩子
Guy took out his whole family--the wife, the two kids.
在他们等圣诞老人上门的时候割了他们的喉咙
Cut their throats in their sleep while they were waiting for Santa.
我在他们的血迹中站了六个小时
I was there for six hours standing in the blood.
之后我就赶着去见我的女朋友
And then I had to rush over to meet my girlfriend
在她的父母家吃圣诞节大餐
at her folks' place for Christmas dinner.
那是我第一次见她家人
It was the first time I was meeting them.
她的父母祖父母
You know, the parents, the grandparents,
叔叔阿姨全家人
the aunts and uncles--the whole kit.
我在那里