极具条理
and organized.
他可能跟踪过他们
He probably stalked them
了解他们的日常作息
and learned their daily routines.
等等 加西亚 两年前在圣地亚哥
Wait, Garcia. Two years ago, San Diego.
对 我比你早一步 小天才
Yeah, way ahead of you, brainiac.
丽莎·鲁伊斯和詹姆斯·杰斐逊
Lisa Ruiz and James Jefferson.
都是从寄养家庭出走的孩子
Both runaways and foster kids
都有案底 但他们的尸体
with police records, uh, but their bodies
是间隔几个月被发现的
were discovered several months apart.
被害者属于不同种族
He crosses race lines
而且之前的孩子年纪更大
and those kids were older,
但是作案手法是一致的
but the M.O. is the same.
一个男孩加一个女孩
A boy, a girl,
都在废弃大楼里
and they were all found burned to death
被纵火烧死
in abandoned buildings.
但最新两位死者是同时被害的
But these latest victims were burned together,
为什么变了
so why the change?
也许他需要两个孩子一起
He might need two kids at the same time
才能实现他的目的
to do his thing.
我想知道纵火是怎么回事
I'm curious about the fire.
一般纵火是为了干扰法医鉴证
It could be a forensic countermeasure,
但几次作案都用同一手法
but the consistency from victim to victim
显示出嫌犯强迫心理造成的犯案习惯
point so some kind of compulsion based ritual,
鉴于纵火冲动通常形成于青春期
and since pyromaniacal urges usually emerge in early adolescence,
很有可能与嫌犯童年时的经历有关
it probably has something to do with his childhood.
我们怎么能肯定是同一凶手所为
How can we even be sure this is all the same guy?
那你怎么看
So what did you think?
肯定是同一个人
Definitely the same guy.
为什么
Why?
作案手法非常相近 案发地也相当接近
M.O.'s too similar. Geography was too close.
而且当我们到达犯罪现场
And when we got to the crime scene,
就确信了这一点
we knew.
他用圣地亚哥案中的同款铁链和锁
He used the same type of lock and chain
来控制受害者
to restrain the victims in San Diego.
也用到这种行军床
He also used cots like this.
也在周围堆放木头 就像火葬一样
The wood, too. It's like a funeral pyre.
下手对象从出走儿童
The guy goes from runaways
转向治安良好社区的乖孩子
to good kids from good neighborhoods.
对他来说风险极大
That's a lot more work
且需要付出极大的精力
and a lot more risk for him.
这两个孩子有什么特殊的地方
So what was so special about these two?
为什么他那么想要得到他们
Why did he want them so bad?
也许他终于认识到
He may be discovering
自己真正想要的受害人甄选标准
what his true victim selection criterion is.
出走儿童的出走通常是常态
Well, the runaways were probably just a practice run--
他们是非常容易下手的目标
easy targets,
没人会上报失踪
no one reports them missing.
但他建立的一男一女的受害者模式
But the boy/girl pattern he's established
表明他可能存在
suggests that there might
一个想要完善的幻想场景
be some kind of fantasy he's trying to perfect.
是什么样的幻想场景
So what's the fantasy, then?
他是想要纠正什么错误吗
Is he righting some kind of wrong?
会不会是想要复仇
Getting revenge, maybe?
如果他有孩子
If he has kids of his own,
可能跟他们有关
it might have something to do with them.
我无法想象
I can't imagine
一个有孩子的人会因为什么
what would drive a parent
做出这样的恶行
to do something like this.
如果他精神上或是脑内化学质不平衡
If he's mentally or chemically imbalanced,
一次改变生活的悲剧可能就是触发点
a tragic life-altering event could have been the trigger.
纵火犯喜欢目睹纵火现场 对吗
Pyros like to watch, right?
是的
Yeah, they do.
这是他们强迫行为中不可分割的部分
It's an inextricable component of the compulsion.
看 看这几张床的位置
Look. Look at the position of these cots.
着火时孩子们可以看到对方
The kids could see each other while this was happening.
精神虐待 而且嫌犯也在一旁观看
Psychological torture. And the unsub probably watched as well,
直到火烧过来他必须离开
until at a certain point the fire took over and he had to go.
但这个计划需要两个孩子
But he needs both kids to make it work.
他掳走汉娜·罗伯斯特森的时间
He took Hannah Robertson 4 days
比麦克斯·瓦瑟曼早了四天
before Max Wasserman.
这意味着他把她关在某个地方养着她
That means he held her someplace and kept her alive.
对 等他抓到了麦克斯就再也等不了了
Yeah. As soon as he got Max he couldn't wait any longer.
他谋划好了一切
He planned everything.
在找到合适的纵火地点之前
He probably stalked them
他很有可能一直在跟踪他们
until he found the perfect place to set his fire.
这解释了他两年的潜伏期
That would explain the two-year dormancy period.
纵火的对象和纵火本身一样重要
Who he burns is just as important as the fire itself.
我真不愿去想他囚禁她时做了些什么
I hate to think what he did to her while he held her here.
验尸官那里有什么收获吗
You get anything from the coroner?
麦克斯·瓦瑟曼的尸体几乎烧成了灰烬
Um, Max Wasserman's body was virtually incinerated,
不过我猜测在消防队到达之前
but, um, I guess the fire department arrived
汉娜·罗伯斯特森的尸体还没被完全烧毁
before Hannah Robertson's body was completely destroyed.
汉娜·罗伯斯特森身上有几处火烧伤
Hannah Robertson had several burn wounds
是几天前形成的
that were a few days old.
他在囚禁她期间也忍♥不住烧她
He couldn't resist burning her while he held her.
有性侵的迹象吗
Any sign of sexual assault?
尚无定论 但是
Inconclusive, but she did have a, uh,
她的右眼周围有眶骨骨折
broken orbital bone around her right eye,
像是遭到了殴打
Like she got punched.
另一个孩子呢
What about the other child?
尸体烧毁太多了 但是在他们的身上
Too much damage. But the did find traces
发现了打火机油的痕迹 量很多
of lighter fluid on both of them. A lot of it.
法医认为男孩最先被点燃
M.E. seems to think the boy was lit on fire first.
根据现场痕迹和消防队的说法
Yeah, that tracks with what the fire department said,
男孩是起火点
that the boy was the flash point.
他可能想通过挨个纵火
Well, it could be he was trying to prolong his pleasure
来延长他的愉悦感
by burning them one at a time.
这不仅仅是观看这么简单了
It's more than about just watching.
他想让他们身心都受折磨
He wants them to suffer physically and mentally.
那对他来说很重要
It's important to him.
两对孩子的发色都是深色的
Both of these kids were brunette.
如果这是为了完善他的幻想
If this is about perfecting a fantasy,
他们可能是别人的替代品
they're probably surrogates for somebody.
但是是谁呢
Yeah. But who?
你们找到确切死因了吗
So did you get an exact cause of death?
根据死者吸入的烟量判断
Um, based on the amount of smoke inhalation,
孩子们是被活活烧死的
we knew that he burned those kids alive.
四个都是
All 4 of them.
要不
You know what?
我们能早上再说吗
Uh, can--can we please do this in the morning?
我太累了
I'm really tired.
小洁
JJ--
我精疲力尽了
I'm exhausted.
你不能想着这些入睡
You cannot go to sleep with this in your head.
这不健康
It's not healthy.
你得把它释放出来
You've gotta get it out.
你必须这么做
You have to.
而且我刚两杯咖啡下肚
And I just had two cups of coffee,
我们两个都睡不着
so neither one of us is gonna sleep.
打起精神来
Come on.
乖
Come on.
好吧
Well, um...
接着就是例行公事
We did what we always do.
和当地警♥察♥合作
We coordinated with local police
仔细搜查案发地点的每一个角落
to canvass every part of the area.
通过询问死者家人朋友
We covered every angle of our victimology
全方位了解了受害者特征
by interviewing family members and friends.
我们到处找这些死者之间的联♥系♥
We looked everywhere for a connection between these victims,
但一无所获
but there-- there was nothing.
所以我们发了份媒体声明来警告公众
So we issued a statement to the press to alert the public.
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