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the stamps and the--the printing.
或者我们直接卖♥♥碗也行
Or we could just sell this bowl.
过去 当天主教♥徒♥遇到福音教♥徒♥时
It used to be if Catholics and Evangelicals came together,
就会血流成河
you'd have a bloodbath.
我是长老会教♥徒♥
I'm Presbyterian.
不 不 我们都侍奉同一个主
No, no, we all serve the same Lord,
可如果我们愿意联手
but if we're willing to come together
为一个共同事业而奋斗
to fight a common cause,
就可以晚点再互相残杀
then we can fight with each other later.
你最喜欢《圣经》中哪一句
What is your favorite piece of scripture?
我喜欢的太多了 都不知道该从何说起
Well...I have so many, I wouldn't know where to start.
我们的鹰女主题 来自《以赛亚书》中的一段
Our Eagle motif is, uh, from a passage in Isaiah.
"他们必如鹰展翅上腾
"They shall mount up with wings like eagles.
他们奔跑却不困倦
They shall run and not be weary.
行走却不疲乏"
They shall walk and not faint."
没错
That's right.
我们还有个玫瑰主题
We also have a rose motif.
玫瑰 象征着我们的挣扎
Ah, the rose. It is a symbol of our struggle.
也象征了我们的挣扎
It's a symbol of our struggle, too.
我们要玫瑰 不要权力
We want roses, not rights.
这是我最爱的口号♥
It's my favorite slogan
因为它既简单又典雅
because it's so simple and elegant.
我们用玫瑰...
We use the rose...
致敬未出世婴儿的...
to honor the martyrdom...
殉难
of the unborn.
你知道流产手术是如何进行的吗
You know what they do in abortion?
他们把可爱的婴儿
They take the lovely baby
移出他们天然的栖息地
from its natural habitat...
然后他们...
and they...
扯掉
rip it out.
然后他们...把孩子扔掉
And they throw it...away.
谢谢你们的来访
Thank you for coming by.
我会考虑一下你们的提议
I'll have a think about your proposal.
这是我写的书
Here are copies of my book.
你可以看看写玛丽的那章
You might want to look at the chapter about Mary.
里面写到了教皇的前后矛盾之处
It shows some of the papal inconsistencies
耶稣由童贞女马利亚因圣灵感孕而生
也包括童女生子
involving the virgin birth.
我自己写的 通篇都是
I wrote it...all myself.
上路之前读点书吗
Some light reading before you hit the road?
吉尔·拉克斯豪斯 我还没来得及
Jill Ruckelshaus. I didn't get a chance
在辩论前介绍自己呢
to introduce myself before the debate.
我认得你
Yes, I know who you are.
介意我坐下吗
Mind some company?
每年这个时候 我的手都特别干燥
Oh, you know, my hands get so dry this time of year.
我女儿问
My daughter asks,
"妈咪 为什么玛丽·波平斯的包里有厨房♥水槽"
"Mommy, why does Mary Poppins have the kitchen sink in her purse?"
不过我懂 我们得时刻准备着
But I get it. We need to be prepared.
不过问题在于 我什么都找不到
Of course, the question is, can I find anything in here?
我就跟朱莉·安德鲁斯一样
I'm basically Julie Andrews
《欢乐满人间》中玛丽·波平斯扮演者
不过没有煤灰和奥斯卡
without the soot or the Oscar.
谢谢 我猜你的包肯定是整洁有序吧
Thank you. I bet your purse is perfectly organized.
-你女儿多大 -7岁
- How old is your daughter? - She's 7.
还有詹妮弗
Then there's Jennifer.
她12岁 小比利11岁 还有一对15岁的双胞胎
She's 12. Billy Jr.'s 11, and the twins are 15.
双胞胎是你丈夫第一次结婚生的吧
And the twins are from your husband's first marriage?
他们还是婴儿时我们就遇见了
I met them when they were infants.
那可是一见钟情
It was love at first sight,
他们爸爸也挺好的
and their dad wasn't too bad either,
于是我度蜜月就带了斯波克医生的书 然后...
so I brought Dr. Spock on the honeymoon, and...
美国儿科医生
其所著《婴幼儿保育常识手册》
是历史上最畅销的书之一
你呢 你的孩子多大了
How about you? How old are yours?
25, 21, 20, 18, 14, and 11.
再过七年 你就自♥由♥了
Oh! Seven more years, and you're free.
为人母本身就是自♥由♥ 吉尔
Motherhood is freedom, Jill.
最近我读到
I thought of you recently
基辛格在内罗比犯的错时 想到了你
when I read about Kissinger's mistake in Nairobi.
是吧
Well, yes.
不过 当然
And then, of course,
诺贝尔委员会
uh, the--the Nobel Committee--
我觉得他们该感到羞愧
well, I think they should be ashamed,
因为在南越溃败前
because his peace talks took two years
他的和平谈判花了两年
before South Vietnam collapsed.
这怎么能算是高尚呢
How was that, uh, noble?
跟我喝一杯吧
Have a drink with me.
我不...
I don't, uh...
也许偶尔也可以喝一杯白葡萄酒
Well, maybe a white wine on occasion.
他们肯定有苏打汽水
I'm sure they have soda pop.
你针对限制战略武器谈判的论述
Your arguments against the SALT Treaty
唐纳德·拉♥姆♥斯♥菲♥尔♥德♥
前美国国防部长
与拉♥姆♥斯♥菲♥尔♥德♥的说法完全一样
are exactly what Rummy now says about SALT, too.
对 他所有的观点都是从我这偷的
Well, yes, he steals all his ideas from me,
过不了多久
and soon he'll be talking
他就会谈论太空拦截器和轨道轰炸机了
about space interceptors and orbital bombers,
但是 如果里根被提名
but, uh, if Reagan were the nominee,
我当然会建议他
now I would advise him to, of course,
罢免基辛格 考虑留下拉♥姆♥斯♥菲♥尔♥德♥
get rid of Kissinger but consider keeping Rumsfeld.
天啊 当你谈论国防时
Wow. Your face lights up
你整个人都在发光
when you're talking about defense.
这个嘛
Oh, well...
我还是不明白
I haven't been able to figure out
为什么一个拥有20年的国防政策经验的
why a Harvard-educated expert on nuclear arms
哈佛毕业的核武器专家
with 20 years' experience in defense policy
会突然间开始讨论女性议题
would suddenly take up a women's issue.
-这影响到我了 -影响到你
- It affects me. - It affects you.
是啊 我也刷厨房♥地板
Sure, I scrub my own kitchen floors, too.
我们要比比谁的手更糙吗
Should we compare dishpan hands?
自戈德华特后 你一直在努力
You've been trying to get a far-right candidate
为了让一名极右翼候选人入主白宫
into the White House since Goldwater.
里根叫板福特 突然间
Reagan challenges Ford, and suddenly you're, uh,
你在扩大权力根基
growing your power base,
同其它保守派教会 摩♥门♥教♥徒结为联盟
forming alliances with other conservative churches, Mormons.
根据当前我国的政♥治♥趋势
Well, with the direction the country is going,
我需要所有能帮我的人
I think I need all the help I can get.
而我认为 你在利用针对女性平等的论战
And I think that you are using the fight over women's equality
来打造出一份女性支持者邮寄名单
to build a mailing list of women who would support
意支持保守派总统候选人
a conservative presidential candidate
例如里根
like Reagan.
这个名单会价值非凡
That list is gonna be worth a lot.
你和我都明白
Now you and I both know
《平权修正案》根本无关平等
that the ERA is not about equality.
而是关于权力
It's about power.
而左翼正在攫取权力
And the left is making a power grab.
里根的革命注定要失败
The Reagan revolution is going to fail,
就像戈德华特革命失败了那样
just like the Goldwater revolution failed.
戈德华特没有失败 他打下了根基
Goldwater didn't fail. He laid the groundwork.
我们的人比你们多
There are more of us than there are of you.
假如我有办法能让你和拉♥姆♥斯♥菲♥尔♥德♥共处一室呢
What if I could get you in a room with Rumsfeld?
我个人认为他很无趣
Personally, I find him a bore,
但看起来你和他
but it seems to me that you and he
会有很多话题可以聊
would have quite a lot to talk about.
比利喜欢说 通过大学教育
Billy likes to say that we educate men and women
男人和女人可以做到完全平等
through college to be precisely equal,
但之后男人会去做有趣的事情
but then the men go off to do interesting things.
你的丈夫也支持你
Your husband supports you, uh,
在周六的下午离开你的孩子吗
leaving your children on a Saturday afternoon?
是的 他想让我拥有自己的人生和事业
Yes. He wants me to have my own life, my own career.
那没有什么能阻止你这么做吧
Well, there's nothing stopping you from doing just that.
你知道为了让人资助我的委员会
Do you know what I had to do
我需要承受什么吗
to get my commission funded?
我要任由十几个男议员
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