国务卿女士

Madam Secretary S05E07

Part 1 Dec. 15, 2019, 11:59 a.m.

女生们先生们飞机现在开始下降
Ladies and gentlemen, we are now beginning our descent
准备着陆于老挝万象
into Vientiane, Laos,
当地温度是舒适的三十摄氏度
where the current temperature is a beautiful 86 degrees.
机组成员请做好着陆准备
Flight attendants, please prepare for landing.
我们就要能抱她了
We'll be holding her soon.
我们自己的宝贝女儿
Our very own baby girl.
老挝他贡
希望它大小合适
I hope it fits.
这是条围巾啊
It's a scarf.
我希望让艾拉妮知道我们是多么感激
I just want Ailani to know how much we appreciate
她为我们所做的一切
what she's doing for us.
经过了九个月的邮件
Oh, after nine months of e-mails,
视频聊天还有关爱礼包
video chats and care packages,
我相信她知道的亲爱的
I'm pretty sure she knows, honey.
但是每个人都需要条围巾对吧
But everyone needs a scarf, right?
我们要有孩子了
We're having a baby.
应该就是前面靠右了
Uh, it should be just up here on the right.
你们在这做什么
你们要对这些妇女做什么
What are you doing with those women?
下车
对不起长官地址搞错了
Uh, sorry, Officer. Wrong address.
给我下车
地址搞错了愚蠢的美国人
可那是我们的孩子啊
But that's our baby.
人口贩卖♥♥状况报告
The Trafficking In Persons Report
人口贩卖♥♥热点地区
显示一些历史上
shows that while several countries
有过贩卖♥♥人口相关的不良记录的国家
with problematic histories vis-à-vis
人口贩卖♥♥热点地区
已经努力做出了改善
human trafficking have managed to improve their behavior
并提升到了第一等级的状态
and move up to Tier 1 status
同时呢另外一些国家
while several others
人口贩卖♥♥情况总体变化
则不幸地下降到第二等级
have unfortunately slid down to Tier 2
甚至第三等级
or Tier 3.
总体而言世界范围内人口贩卖♥♥的
And overall, the number of trafficking victims
-受害总人数 -翻了一番总统先生
- worldwide has... - Doubled, sir. Yes.
就这样吧
That's it, then.
我已经看得够多了
I've seen enough.
我们将暂停对第三等级国家的所有援助
We're withholding aid to all Tier 3 countries.
总统先生这有可能会对
Mr. President, that could have negative effects
世界各地有需要的人造成负面影响
on populations in need around the globe.
更加公平的行动应该是
The more fair move wouldd be to evaluate
一个国家一个国家地进行评估
each nation on a case by case basis.
公平
Fair?
每年有八十万人被从家园掠走
800,000 people are ripped from their homes
贩卖♥♥成为奴隶
every year and sold into slavery.
我想要对他们公平要做到这一点
I want fairness for them. And the only way to achieve that
我们唯一能做的就是惩罚那些
is punish the countries that allow their exploitation
-继续纵容这种行为的国家 -这份报告的
- to continue. - Well, the release of the report
发布本身就已经有好的结果了
itself is yielding results.
我想你说的是老挝的打击行动吧
I assume you're talking about the crackdowns in Laos.
没错
Exactly.
老挝立刻做出反应
Laos reacted immediately,
在全国范围打击贩卖♥♥人口的活动
breaking up trafficking operations across the country.
让一个国家突然良心发现
Nothing like the threat of losing aid
最好的方法就是让他们面临失去援助的危险
to make a country grow a conscience.
这印证了我的观点
Which proves my point.
把资金的阀门关上这样他们就能有所触动
Shutting off the money spigot so that they feel it,
就能感觉到痛苦
so that it hurts.
这才是能带来持久改变的办法
That's how you get change that lasts.
这正是我们要做的
And that's what we're going to do.
谢谢茜拉
Thanks, Shira.
谢谢大家
Thanks, everyone.
总统先生我的办公室从我之前的选民
Sir, my office heard from former constituents of mine.
一对夫妇那里听说
A couple.
老挝当局也在拘捕怀孕的妇女
Apparently, Laos is also rounding up pregnant women.
代♥孕♥者
Surrogates.
这也不奇怪
Well, that's not too surprising.
不幸的是老挝把商业的代♥孕♥行为
Unfortunately, Laos categorizes commercial surrogacy
定性为贩卖♥♥人口
as human trafficking.
总统先生这对夫妇很绝望
Mr. President, this couple is desperate.
他们找不到他们的代♥孕♥者
They can't locate their surrogate.
而她随时可能要生了
and she is due to have their baby any day now.
你知道一共有多少代♥孕♥者被抓了吗
Do we know how many surrogates in total have been arrested?
老挝是生育旅行的热点地区
Laos is a hotspot for fertility tourists,
所以可能有数百名妇女
so it could be hundreds of women.
不公正地被捕并失去了应有的产前看护
Unjustly imprisoned without access to proper prenatal care.
我觉得我们应该做点什么去提供帮助
I think we should do something to help.
一份来自美国总统的声明
A statement from the President of the United States
应该可以很有用
could go a long way.
甚至也许还能减少一点点代♥孕♥所受到的辱骂
Maybe even de-stigmatize surrogacy a little in the process.
就算我们能说服老挝
Look, even if we could convince Laos
无视他们自己的法律在国内
to ignore their own laws, here at home,
商业代♥孕♥是人们不大关注的
commercial surrogacy is one of those issues
事情之一
most folks don't think about much.
可一旦他们关注了他们就会厌恶这个
But when they do, they hate it.
我觉得实事求是地说
I think it's fair to say that there's
国内对这件事没有共识
no national consensus on this.
所以才只是在各个州的层面上进行了立法管理
That's why it's regulated at the state level.
这是个复杂的伦理问题
This is complex ethical territory.
绝大多数代♥孕♥者都来自低收入人口
Most surrogates come from low-income backgrounds
因此很容易被视为阶级剥削
so it's easily seen as class exploitation.
还有婴儿出生的还有未出生的
And then there are the babies, both born and unborn,
因此还有儿童权利的问题
so it's a children's rights issue.
另外还有生育权的问题
It's also an issue of reproductive rights.
如果一名妇女为另外一个人代♥孕♥
If a woman wants to carry a child for someone else,
-那应该是她自己的选择 -看见了吧
- that should be her choice. - See?
这个事无论自♥由♥派还是保守派都讨厌
It's an issue both liberals and conservatives can hate.
最好是不要管
Best to leave it alone.
或者我们可以先把政♥治♥放到一边
Or we could forget about the politics for once
只讨论到底什么是正确的
and just talk about what's right.
特蕾莎什么时候你能把政♥治♥放一边
Teresa, the day you forget about the politics
那我也就能放一边
is the day I forget about the politics.
拉塞尔我确实有抱负
Yes, Russell, I am ambitious.
但这不代表我冷酷无情
But that doesn't mean I'm heartless.
怎么了我说的是好话
What? It was a compliment.
贝丝让国♥务♥院♥关注一下代♥孕♥者
Bess, have State keep an eye on the surrogates,
确保没有违反人♥权♥的事情发生除此之外
make sure no human rights are violated. Beyond that,
抱歉特蕾莎我们不去碰这个
I'm sorry, Teresa, we're staying out of this.
-回办公室 -好
- Back to the office. - ?Sure.
伊丽莎白能跟你说句话吗
Elizabeth, do you have a minute?
行吧
Uh, yeah.
我想跟你说件私事
This is a, uh, a personal matter.
说吧
Okay.
我们之间有些过节我了解
You and I have our issues, I know that,
可是我实在不知道应该找谁
but I just didn't know where else to turn.
你还好吗
Are you okay?
我刚才提到的夫妇
The couple I mentioned--
我的选民
my constituents?
他们是我的女儿和女婿莱拉和查理
They're my daughter and son-in-law, Lyla and Charlie.
我很难过
I'm so sorry.
他们想要孩子已经好几年了
They've been trying to have a child for years.
这过程里有过很多的失望
And there's been a lot of disappointments
所以他们直到最近
along the way, so they kept me in the dark
才把计划告诉我
about their plans until recently.
他们不想让大家的期望值太高
They didn't want to get anyone's hopes up.
我能理解
And I can understand that.
当然他们知道老挝的法律
Of course, they knew what the law was in Laos,
但是他们为了能自己怀孕
but they have spent so much money trying to have
已经花了很多钱他们没有钱来美国
their own child that they couldn't afford a surrogate
找代♥孕♥了而这个看起来是个低风险的赌博
in the U.S. And it just seemed like a safe enough bet.
以前确实是
Well, and it was,
但我们的报告刺♥激♥了他们采取强制措施
until our report incited that crackdown.