远古外星人（2009）
Ancient Aliens S14E21
Part 4
Jan. 19, 2022, 11:04 a.m.
而另一些人则指出 整个政♥府♥中弥漫着一种官僚保密的普遍文化
While others point to a general culture of bureaucratic secrecy that pervades all of government.
一些信息披露的倡导者说 我们还没有看到信息披露的原因是经济
Some disclosure advocates say that the reason why we haven't seen disclosure yet is because of economics.
你有一个以石油为基础的经济 很明显我们在天空中看到的飞船不是以石油为基础的
That you have an oil-based economy, and clearly the craft that we see in the skies are not running on oil.
他们正在使用先进的推进系统 如果这些系统得以实施 将彻底改变地球经济
They're using advanced propulsion systems that would completely transform the economies of Earth if they're ever implemented.
赫利尔:是的
HELLYER: So, yes.
这将对拥有地下石油的最富有的人 产生负面的财务影响
It would have a negative financial impact for the wealthiest people who own the oil in the ground.
但这并不是全部
But it's not the whole story.
波德斯塔:政♥府♥似乎完全不对美国公众负责
PODESTA: The government seems to be completely unaccountable to the American public.
他们可能要对国防部或NASA或其他部门的上级负责
They may be accountable to their superiors in the Department of Defense or at NASA or others.
但他们很少发布任何他们所知道的东西
But they rarely release anything they do know.
温迪:我认为我们害怕发现这些现象
WENDT: I think we're afraid to find out what these phenomena are.
政♥府♥尤其害怕 原因是
Governments in particular are afraid, and the reason for that,
我认为 是因为政♥府♥和人♥民♥之间的契约是 政♥府♥提供安全
I think, is because the contract between governments and their people is that governments provide security,
我们提供对政♥府♥的忠诚
and that we provide loyalty to the government.
如果你提出UFO可能是外星人
If you even raise the issue of the possibility that UFOs are ETs,
这就引出了关于这个合同的大问题 因为很明显政♥府♥不能从这些生物那里为我们提供安全
then that raises big questions about that contract because it's clear that the government cannot provide security for us from these beings.
这就有问题了 为什么我要忠于政♥府♥和他们的一切东西呢?
And that would call into question, well, why should I be loyal to the government and everything else?
UFO事件会破坏政♥府♥的主♥权♥
It would undermine the sovereignty of the government,
国家主♥权♥
the sovereignty of the state.
但是 尽管关于UFO报告和披露的政策越来越开放 但还是有很多疑问
NARRATOR: But even with a growing number of more open-minded policies concerning both UFO reporting and disclosure, there are many
他们怀疑美国♥军♥方对保密的偏好是否真的会允许完全的披露
who doubt that the U.S. military's penchant for secrecy will ever really allow full disclosure.
他们坚持认为 美国太害怕外星知识落入其它领土的敌人之手 以至于不愿承认外星人的存在
They insist that America is far too afraid that extraterrestrial knowledge could fall into the hands of its territorial enemies to ever admit that aliens do exist.
智利 圣地亚哥
NARRATOR: Santiago, Chile.
2014年11月11日
November 11, 2014.
一架智利海军直升机正在执行例行的日间巡逻任务 沿着圣地亚哥以西的海岸向北飞行
A Chilean Navy helicopter is on a routine daytime patrol mission flying north along the coast, west of Santiago.
拍摄地形时
While filming the terrain,
一名技术人员观察到一个奇怪的物体在海洋上空向左飞行
a technician observes a strange object flying to the left, over the ocean.
他拿起相机 记录下了这次遭遇
He aims his camera and records the encounter.
海军立即把录像交给了CEFAA…
The Navy immediately turns over the footage to the CEFAA...
调查不明飞行物的智利政♥府♥机构
the Chilean government agency that investigates UFOs.
他们公布了视频
And they release it.
智利政♥府♥也公布了军用飞机拍摄到的各种镜头
We have the Chilean government also releasing all kinds of fighter footage from their own military jets.
所以政♥府♥和军方研究这个已经超过70年了
So the government and the-the military has been studying this for over 70 years.
他们一定有很多证据
And they must have so much evidence,
包括视频片段 他们对我们保密 这可能会让你大吃一惊
in-including video footage, that they are keeping secret from us that would boggle your mind.
在过去的十年里
NARRATOR: Over the past ten years,
在许多政♥府♥中有一种运动 要解密他们的一些不明飞行物调查 并将它们向公众开放
there has been a movement among many governments to declassify some of their UFO investigations and release them to the public.
波德斯塔:我认为世界各地的人 比利时人和智利人
PODESTA: I think that people around the world, in Belgium and Chile and in,
英国人和其他国家的人说
in, uh, the U.K. and other countries have said,
“你知道 我们应该仔细看看到底发生了什么 ”
"You know, we ought to, we ought to really take a look at what's going on."
多兰:但事实是
DOLAN: But the fact is,
美国的情报基础设施往往深深植根于这些国家的行政机构中
the U.S. intelligence infrastructure is often deeply imbedded in the infrastructures of those countries.
换句话说 如果没有美国和美国国♥家♥安♥全♥局的许可 他们不会发声
So, in other words, they can't say boo without the U.S. and NSA, particularly, knowing about it.
如果美国的盟友们没有得到美国的允许 不愿意披露有关不明飞行物和外星访客的事实
NARRATOR: If allies of the United States are reluctant to disclose the facts about UFOs and possible extraterrestrial visitation without American permission,
那么美国的对手呢?
what about America's adversaries?
中国 杭州
Hangzhou, China.
2010年7月7日
July 7, 2010.
在萧山国际机场附近发现了一架身份不明的飞船后 中国官员关闭了机场近一个小时
Chinese officials shut down Xiaoshan International Airport for nearly an hour after an unidentified aircraft is seen in the vicinity.
这一事件标志着 这是中国为数不多的几次公开承认的UFO目击事件
The incident marks one of the very few times the Chinese ever publicly admit that UFO sightings happen in their country.
波普:我看不出揭露外星人的存在 会削弱党对人♥民♥的控制
POPE: I can't see any circumstances where disclosure of an alien presence would do anything other than loosen the hold of the party on the people.
揭露这些事实不符合中国的利益
It's not in China's interest to disclose.
在俄♥罗♥斯♥
NARRATOR: In Russia,
关于最近UFO事件的细节更难获得
details about any recent UFO incidents are even harder to come by,
由于所有媒体目前都由一个人控制
as all media outlets are currently controlled by one man,
弗拉基米尔•普♥京♥
Vladimir Putin.
宣布外星人的存在 并不会以任何方式加强普♥京♥的权力控制
Announcing the existence of aliens is not in any way going to strengthen Putin's hold on power.
他为什么要公布? 对他有什么好处?
Why would he? What's, what's the benefit to him?
他能从中得到什么?
What would he get out of it?
对美国人施加压力 ? 嗯 也许吧
Putting one over on the Americans? Well, maybe.
但不利的一面是 普♥京♥无法承受……不稳定…… 不利的一面太大 不能冒险
But the downside, in terms of the one thing that Putin can't afford... instability... the downside is too big to gamble with.
但是如果中国和俄♥罗♥斯♥不愿意透露他们所知道的可能存在的外星接触
NARRATOR: But if China and Russia are unwilling to disclose what they know about possible extraterrestrial contact,
没有美国的支持 任何其他国家也不可能揭露
and no other countries will do so without the blessing of the United States,
那么 为什么我们开始看到美国♥军♥方对信息披露的态度越来越开放呢?
then why are we beginning to see a gradually more open attitude concerning disclosure on the part of the U.S. military?
最近几年发生了什么变化?
What has changed in recent years?
古代的宇航员理论家们相信 只要仔细观察最近涉及美国太空计划的活动 就能找到答案
Ancient astronaut theorists believe the answer can be found by taking a closer look at recent activities involving America's space program.
博卡奇卡 德克萨斯州
Boca Chica, Texas.
2019年8月27日
August 27, 2019.
亿万富翁埃隆•马斯克运营的私营航♥空♥公♥司♥SpaceX
SpaceX, a private aerospace company run by billionaire Elon Musk,
宣布第四次也是最后一次成功试飞他们的星际飞船原型“星虫”
announces the successful fourth and final test flight of their starship prototype "Starhopper."
这艘飞船是一个早期的概念模型 马斯克希望它能让公♥司♥更接近其最终目标:
The craft is an early conceptual model that Musk hopes will bring the company closer to its ultimate goal:
打造一艘能够承载100人前往火星的星际飞船
creating a 100-person starship capable of transporting humans to Mars.
波德斯塔:奇怪的是 我认为在私营部门 至少可能会有更多的公♥开♥信♥息
PODESTA: I think in the private sector, oddly, there's the potential to have at least more public disclosure,
考虑到空军如此不愿意认真审查和公布他们所知道的事实
given the fact that the Air Force have been so unwilling to try to seriously review and release what they do know.
就很多古代宇航员理论家而言
NARRATOR: As far as many ancient astronaut theorists are concerned,
正在进行的私有化太空探索的努力
the ongoing efforts to privatize space exploration,
从埃隆•马斯克、亚马逊亿万富翁杰夫•贝佐斯 到罗伯特•毕格罗和维珍大西洋的理查德•布兰森
by everyone from Elon Musk and Amazon.com billionaire Jeff Bezos to Robert Bigelow and Virgin Atlantic's Richard Branson,
不久将使不明飞行物和外星人来访的秘密成为历史
will soon make secrecy about UFOs and possible alien visitations a thing of the past.
索卡罗斯:迟早会有太空游客
TSOUKALOS: Sooner or later, there will be space tourists,
如果他们走在火星表面或月球表面 会不会遇到一个史前古建筑呢?
so what if they walk on the surface of Mars or the surface of-of the Moon and will walk by an artifact?
我可以拍张自♥拍♥照吗?
Well, am I allowed to take a-a selfie?
我可以允许照相吗?
Am I allowed to take a photo?
还是我必须先通过NASA的同意?
Or do I have to go through NASA first?
你不需要先征得NASA的同意
You're not going to ask NASA for permission first.
我们现在正在进入空间探索的新时代 这一事实向我表明 大门是敞开的
The fact that we are now entering this new era in space exploration illustrates to me that the doors are open.
包括24小时新闻 维基解密
NARRATOR: In a world that includes 24-hour news, WikiLeaks,
越来越多的空间探索企业家
and a growing number of corporate space entrepreneurs,
发现外星人的真♥相♥是不可避免的吗?
is discovering the truth about aliens simply inevitable?
纵观历史 政♥府♥从来都不能保守秘密
Throughout history, governments have never been able to keep a secret.
看看那些几乎每天都被曝光的所谓秘密吧
Look at all the so-called secrets that are being exposed almost on a daily basis.
政♥府♥对一些低级职员将所有证据泄露到公共领域感到愤怒
Governments are furious that some lowly clerk is simply leaking all this evidence into the public domain,
所以我认为无论如何它都会发生
and so I think it's gonna happen anyway.
但在这一点上 我们该怎么做呢?
But at that point, what do we do?
波普:我认为公众对此非常感兴趣……
POPE: I think there is huge public interest in this...
- 是的 - …每个人都想知道发生了什么
- Yes. -...and everyone wants to know what's going on.
为什么政♥府♥不告诉我们?
Why will the government not tell us?
那么 政♥府♥到底属于谁?
Well, whose government is it?
它属于某个GS-13成员 某个官僚吗?
Does it belong to some GS-13, some bureaucrat?
当然不是 我们为国家纳税
Of course not. We pay for it.
我们就拥有国家 这是一个民♥主♥国家
We own it. This is a democracy.
华盛顿特区的默认设置是保密
The default setting in D.C. is secrecy.
仍然有一战时期的文件
There are still documents from the First World War,
那是102年前的事了 那是机密
which was 102 years ago, that are classified.
因此 在华盛顿有很多信息应该是公开的 但事实并非如此
So, there's a lot of information in Washington that ought to be public but that is not.
如果你想解决这个问题 你需要政♥治♥意愿
If you want to fix that, what you need is just political will.
你需要有人站出来说我不会闭嘴
You need someone to stand up and say I'm not gonna be quiet.
看着我的眼睛 慢慢地说 让我能明白
Look me in the eye, speak slowly so I can understand.
为什么我们不与公众分享呢?
Why are we not sharing this with the public?
我想把这件事公之于众
I want to make this stuff public.
英国 伦敦 2010年1月
科学家、学者和研究人员聚集在英国皇家学会 参加一个科学与技术的会议
Scientists, academics and researchers gather at the Royal Society for a conference titled
名为“发现外星生命及其对科学和社会的影响 ”
"The detection of extra-terrestrial life and the consequences for science and society."
尽管他们宣称的目标是在外星人造访地球时为世界制定协议
Although their stated goal is to create protocols for the world in the event of an extraterrestrial visitation,
但他们无法提出一个连贯的计划
they are unable to come up with a cohesive plan.
事实上，到目前为止，联♥合♥国♥、美国政♥府♥或任何其他全球超级大国
In fact, thus far, no official protocol for a post-disclosure world has been offered by the United Nations, the U.S. government,
都没有作出任何正式的保密协议
or any other global superpower.
亨利:我们有军事计划
HENRY: We have military plans,
经济计划
economic plans,
我们为人们制定了医疗保障计划
we've got health care plans for people.
但对于人类历史上最重要的事件却没有计划?
But no plan for the single most important event in human history?
怎么会这样 为什么会这样?
How can that be, or why is that?
波普:在政♥府♥里面 你称之为低概率
POPE: In government, you call it a low probability,
高影响力的场景
high-impact scenario.
即使你认为某事不太可能发生
Even if you think something is unlikely to happen,
如果它的社会影响足够大
if the societal consequences of it happening are big enough,
你确实需要一个计划
you sure as heck need a plan.
没有一个计划是给外星人的
There isn't one for extraterrestrials.
应该有计划
There should be.
我们必须让所有人做好准备
We have to prep the population.
让人类知道这意味着什么
Prep humanity for what this means.
这不是一两周就能完成的事情
And that's not something that could be done in a week or two.
那需要长时间的讨论… 伦理讨论 政♥治♥讨论…… 关于人类和我们在宇宙中的位置等等
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