远古外星人（2009）

Ancient Aliens S14E20

Part 3 Jan. 19, 2022, 11:04 a.m.

- 显然他们是真的想保护它… - 是的
- clearly they were really trying to protect it... - Yes.
...尽量不让任何人看到它
...and minimizing that anyone could get eyes on it.
正确
Correct.
有人声称美国♥军♥方发现了来自另一个世界的宇宙飞船这可能是真的吗?
NARRATOR: Could claims that the U.S. military discovered otherworldly spacecraft be true?
一些美国战后最伟大的技术成就可能是外星飞船逆向工程的结果吗?
Might some of post-war America's greatest technological accomplishments have been the result of reverse engineering alien vehicles?
古代宇航员理论家说是的
Ancient astronaut theorists say yes,
并坚称51区的真♥相♥在几十年前就已经揭露了
and insist that the truth about Area 51 was actually revealed decades ago,
不是UFO爱好者或告密者揭露的
not by UFO enthusiasts or whistle-blowers,
而是由两个负责维护政♥府♥最重要机密的人揭露的
but by two of the men most responsible for maintaining the government's most vital secrets.
加利福尼亚伯班克 1943年6月
在第二次世界大战期间
NARRATOR: In the midst of World War II,
政♥府♥迫使洛克希德飞机公♥司♥开♥发♥下一代军用飞机
the government presses the Lockheed Aircraft Corporation to develop the next generation of military planes...
设计出从侧翼包住螺旋桨的喷气式战斗机以帮助美军扭转战局
jet fighters designed to outflank propeller aircraft and help turn the tide of war.
一支由洛克希德公♥司♥工程师克拉伦斯•凯利•约翰逊领导的团队在短短143天内交付了第一款量产模型
A team headed by Lockheed engineer Clarence "Kelly" Johnson delivers the first production model in just 143 days.
他们的P-80流星战机开创了美国♥军♥队的喷气机时代
Their P-80 Shooting Star initiates the jet age for the U.S. military.
凯利•约翰逊的秘密研发团队最终为人所知的是……
Kelly Johnson's secret research and development team ultimately becomes known...
“臭鼬工厂”
as "Skunk Works."
多兰:克拉伦斯•凯利•约翰逊在50年代和60年代
DOLAN: Clarence Kelly Johnson was the first head
是洛克希德公♥司♥臭鼬工厂部门的第一个负责人一直工作到1975年
of Lockheed's Skunk Works division back in the '50s and '60s, up until 1975.
他是U-2侦察机的开♥发♥者这架侦察机能够在令人难以置信的8万英尺的高度飞行
He's the developer of the U-2 spy plane which was able to fly at the incredible altitude of 80,000 feet,
具有惊人的摄影能力
equipped with photographic capabilities that were astonishing.
毫无疑问他是航♥空♥界的传奇人物
And he is a great legend in the aviation community, for sure.
尽管他有主流资历
NARRATOR: Despite his mainstream credentials,
但约翰逊也是现在著名的UFO目击事件的主要目击者
Johnson becomes the primary witness to a now-famous UFO sighting in Agoura, California,
1953年12月16日
on December 16, 1953.
他报告了这次遭遇
His report of the encounter,
以及他个人描绘的飞船草图
and his personal sketches of the craft,
由蓝皮书计划保护
were preserved by Project Blue Book,
是美国政♥府♥当时对UFO现象的官方说法
the U.S. government's official account of the UFO phenomenon at the time.
多兰:当他看到一个非常非常不寻常的物体时他正和一些同事在一起
DOLAN: He was with some of his colleagues at the time when he saw a very, very unusual object
他无法用当时他所熟悉的任何一种技术来解释
that he could not explain in any kind of technology that was familiar to him at the time.
在官方对不明飞行物持怀疑态度的时代
NARRATOR: During an era of official skepticism about UFOs,
约翰逊冒着职业生涯的危险向上级报告了这次目击事件
Johnson risks his career by reporting the sighting to his superiors.
但结果不是被处罚或降职
But instead of being penalized or demoted,
约翰逊似乎在两年后得到了回报
Johnson is seemingly rewarded two years later,
他在建立美国最秘密的军事基地51区时扮演了关键角色
when he plays a pivotal role in founding America's most secret military base: Area 51.
凯利•约翰逊认为51区是个很好的战略位置
Kelly Johnson was the person that identified the location where Area 51 is as a good strategic location.
它基本上位于世界的正确位置没有窥视的眼睛
It is fundamentally located in the right part of the world without prying eyes.
但是51区仅仅是用来测试实验飞机的吗
NARRATOR: But was Area 51 founded merely to test experimental aircraft,
就像军方坚持的那样?
as the military insists?
还是凯利•约翰逊选择了这个位置作为对他亲眼所见的外星飞船
Or did Kelly Johnson choose the location as the best place to reverse engineer the very alien spacecraft
进行逆向工程的最佳地点?
he believed he saw with his own eyes?
凯利•约翰逊于1990年去世
Kelly Johnson died in 1990,
从未泄露过51区的秘密
without ever disclosing the secrets of Area 51.
但他核心圈子里的一个关键人物公开表示他相信外星人就在地球上
But a key person in his inner circle openly expressed his belief that extraterrestrials are present on Earth.
航♥空♥设计师本杰明•罗伯特•里奇接替了凯莉•约翰逊担任臭鼬工厂的第二任总监
Aviation designer Benjamin Robert Rich succeeds Kelly Johnson as the second director of Skunk Works.
他最终将被称为“隐形之父”
He will eventually become known as the "father of stealth."
本•里奇是美国航♥空♥史以及整个机密世界的
Ben Rich was one of the real legends of the history of American aviation,
真正传奇人物之一
and-and the classified world in general.
众所周知他是F-117A夜鹰战斗机设计的幕后推手
And he's famously known as the man who's really behind the design of the F-117A Nighthawk.
这就是隐形战斗机它将在20世纪80年代和90年代给航♥空♥业带来革命性的变化
That's the stealth fighter which would revolutionize aviation in the 1980s and 90s.
另一位航♥空♥专家兼同事吉姆•古道尔
NARRATOR: Another aviation expert and colleague, Jim Goodall,
听说本•里奇有消息证实不明飞行物的存在
heard rumors that Ben Rich had information confirming the existence of UFOs,
所以他决定直截了当地问
so he decided to ask, point blank,
这个传奇的臭鼬工厂老板所相信的到底是什么
what this legendary head of Skunk Works really believed.
吉姆•古道尔:本•里奇先生是我的朋友
JIM GOODALL: Mr. Ben Rich was a friend of mine,
就在他去世之前我问他我说
and just before he passed away, I asked him, I said,
“你相信有不明飞行物吗?”
"Do you believe in UFOs?"
他说 “吉姆”
He said, he said, "Jim",
“我们在沙漠里发现了一些东西” 这些东西已经存在了50年超出了你的理解范围
"we have things out in the desert "that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend.
“不是你认为的可以在50年内建成的东西”
"Not what you think you can build in 50 years,
“不是你所能理解的”
"but what you can comprehend.
如果你看过《星际迷航》和《星球大战》这样的电影
"And if you've seen movies like" Star Trek" and" Star Wars,"
“我们达到了那个程度已经能做到了 ”
we've been there, done that."
对我来说我认为这是临终忏悔
To me, I think it was a deathbed confession.
科贝尔:这个人知道作为人类我们拥有什么技术无法掌握什么技术
CORBELL: This is a man that would know what technologies we have in our inventory as humans and what we don't.
本•里奇是UFO的信徒
Ben Rich was a believer in UFOs.
我想他已经知道了
I think beyond believer, I think he knew.
但是在51区的所有工作人员中
NARRATOR: But of all the people who worked at Area 51,
也许最著名或最臭名昭著的是鲍勃•拉扎尔
perhaps the most famous, or infamous, is Bob Lazar.
没有人比他更具有煽动性或更具争议性
No one has been more inflammatory, or controversial.
就外星人爱好者而言
As far as alien enthusiasts are concerned,
拉扎尔做了更多的工作把一个位于内华达州沙漠中心的不知名的军事基地
Lazar has done more to turn a previously unknown military base in the middle of an obscure Nevada desert
变成了美国人痴迷UFO、外星人和政♥府♥阴谋的
into the white-hot center of America's obsession with UFOs,
白热中心
aliens and government conspiracies.
但是鲍勃•拉扎尔是谁呢?
But who is Bob Lazar?
他在51区看到了什么?
And what did he see at Area 51?
拉斯维加斯内华达 1989年5月15日
我们当中有谁听说过所谓的UFO掩盖事件?
Who among us has not heard about an alleged UFO cover-up?
在KLAS电视台
NARRATOR: On local TV station KLAS,
调查记者乔治•纳普采访了一名叫“丹尼斯”的男子为了隐藏自己的身份他只拍摄了他的背影轮廓
investigative reporter George Knapp interviews a man going by the name "Dennis" and shot in silhouette to hide his identity.
这名男子声称他仍然在秘密军事设施工作但美国政♥府♥不承认该设施的存在
The man claims to work at the secret military installation that the U.S. government still maintains does not exist.
根据他的说法事实上
And according to him, the base does, in fact,
基地里有外星飞船
hold extraterrestrial spacecraft.
乔治•纳普:那里到底发生了什么?
GEORGE KNAPP: Exactly what's going on up there?
鲍勃•拉扎尔:有几个实际上有九个
BOB LAZAR: Well, there's several, uh, actually nine, uh,
飞行器或飞碟
flying saucers, flying disks,
呃他们来自外太空
uh, that are out there of extraterrestrial origin.
波普:有人声称曾在51区工作过
POPE: Here was someone who claimed to have worked at Area 51,
逆向工程外星技术
back engineering alien technology.
不明飞行物坠毁在罗斯威尔
UFOs that had crashed, possibly at Roswell,
政♥府♥试图找出它们是如何工作的
and trying to figure out how they worked.
然后自己造一个
And then maybe building one ourselves.
如果他继续保持匿名政♥府♥可能会伤害他
NARRATOR: Frightened that the government might try to harm him if he remains anonymous,
举报人兼记者乔治•纳普正在考虑透露他的姓名
the whistle-blower and reporter George Knapp wrestle with the idea of revealing his name.
我们向世界公布他的身份的那一天
The day that we unveiled his identity to the world,
他在车站拿着录像带
he's in the station and he grabs the tape,
他说 “我改变主意了我不公开了 ”
he said, "I've changed my mind, not gonna do it."
直到最后他都在自我斗争并与自己争论这是不是一个好主意
Right up to the end, he was fighting it and arguing with himself about whether it's a good idea,
尽管他的生命受到了威胁
even though his life had been threatened,
他的生活完全颠倒了
his life had been turned upside down.
最后告密者决定从阴影中走出来说出他的名字……鲍勃•拉扎尔
NARRATOR: In the end, the whistle-blower decided to come out from the shadows and reveal his name... Bob Lazar.
鲍勃•拉扎尔做的一件好事是在1989年5月15日和乔治•纳普一起站出来
The one good thing Bob Lazar did was came forward with George Knapp in 1989 on May 15,
通过这样做他保护了自己
and by doing that, he protected himself.
他恐惧自己的生命受到威胁为了保护自己他把自己的遭遇一五一十地告诉了大家
He was scared for his life, and he protected himself by telling you what happened to him in one shot, straight up.
从那天起
NARRATOR: From that day onward,
鲍勃•拉扎尔仍然是历史上最具争议的UFO举报者而举报则付出了沉重的代价
Bob Lazar has remained the most controversial UFO whistle-blower in history, and going public came at a heavy price.
许多人认为这是政♥府♥为了掩盖51区真♥相♥而让他付出的代价
A price many believe was exacted by a government determined to hide the truth about Area 51.
鲍勃的房♥子被人闯入他们乱搬东西还在墙上写东西
Not only was Bob's house broken into and they'd move stuff around, they'd write things on the, on the wall.
他看见乌兹枪从窗户里透出来
He's got an Uzi peeking out the window.
恐惧是真实的
The fear was real.
对他的威胁是真实的
The threats that were made against him were real.
监视是真实的
The surveillance was real.
面对这样的骚扰
NARRATOR: Faced with such harassment,
几十年来拉扎尔从公众视野中消失了
Lazar retreated from public view for decades.
我不喜欢成为公众人物
I don't like being in the public eye.
我这么做没有利益相关
I don't have money for doing this,
坦白说我可以编一个更好的谎言
and quite frankly, I could make up a better lie,
因为我没有说谎的动机
but I have no motivation to lie.
但是如果鲍勃•拉扎尔的说法是正确的
NARRATOR: But if Bob Lazar's claims are true,
他到底能揭露多少51区的真实情况?
just how much could he expose about what's really going on at Area 51?
2018年12月4日
On December 4, 2018,
拉扎尔最终决定结束多年的沉默
Lazar finally decided to end years of silence
他向电影制♥作♥人杰里米·科尔贝尔讲述他的全部故事
and tell his full story to filmmaker Jeremy Corbell in an explosive documentary entitled
在一部名为《鲍勃•拉扎尔：51区和飞碟》的爆♥炸♥性纪录片中
"Bob Lazar: Area 51 and Flying Saucers."
拉扎尔:在20世纪80年代末
LAZAR: In the late 1980s,
美国政♥府♥已经找到了外星飞船
the U.S. government had recovered alien spacecraft,
好几架外星飞船
several of them,
在内华达州的沙漠里他们一直在默默地分♥析♥
and the technology, in the Nevada desert that they were keeping quiet and analyzing.
这是一个事实
That's a fact.
这就是我的故事
That's all my story was,