纽约客再现（2015）

The New Yorker Presents S01E09

Part 5 Sept. 1, 2020, 10:15 a.m.

are looking at it wide-eyed
他们真的有这么放荡吗
and saying "Did they really have orgies like this?
他们真的把拳头其他男人的肛♥门♥里吗
Did they really put their fists up other men's assholes?"
我说是的孩子他们就这么干
I'm, like "Yes, yes, children, they did."
他们喜欢芬兰的汤姆的画作
They take to the Tom of Finland images
的原因和其他人一样
for the same reason everyone does:
是因为和迪士尼动画的画质一样
is the Disney quality of them.
他们又圆又帅
They're round. They're cute.
我现在疯狂喜欢的是这个
The one that I really am, like, crazy about right now,
肌肉发达的警♥察♥指着他的屁♥股♥
it's this big muscular cop, and he's pointing at his ass.
他脸上挂着微笑
He's got a smile on his--
好像在说来吧伙计们戳我一下
"Come on, guys," You know, like "Give me a poke."
我买♥♥了汤姆的作品
Well, I bought a Tom of Finland drawing
是两个警♥察♥ 一个在给另外一个舔肛
which is two policemen. One's rimming the other one,
你可以看出有一个勃起的阴♥茎♥
and you can tell that it had one, the dick up,
但是他擦掉了所以很棒
but he erased it, so it's great.
就好像德·库宁
so it's like the de Kooning--
被擦掉的德·库宁的画作
you know, the erased de Kooning drawing.
有两个犯人
You have two prisoners
和两个狱警亲热
making out with two prison guards.
视角变了
The perspective changes,
狱警变成了囚犯
and the guards become the prisoners.
汤姆的作品提醒我们
Tom of Finland's work reminds us
同性恋解放运动不只是
that gay liberation is not only joining
参加西方社会的保守势力
the conservative forces of Western society--
加入军队或者结婚
the army and getting married.
性意识的不同
A different economy of sexuality
可以引领一个社会的不同的观点
can lead to a different idea of community
和不同的社会
and a different idea of the self.
如果你肤浅地看
If you look at it superficially,
全部都是阴♥茎♥
it's just all these cocks.
但是如果你深究
But if you go into it,
你就会发现
then you actually discover
这是关于人性
it's so much about humanity.
关于爱情
It's about loving,
和互相照顾的作品
and it's about taking care of each other.
他现在是芬兰的国宝
He is a national treasure now in Finland.
他在国家发行的邮票上
He's on the national stamp.
你能想象在美国发生这事吗
Can you imagine that happening in America?
那是色情作品但是我知道不仅仅是色情
It was porn, but I knew it was more than porn.
对我来说如果不改变你的思维就是色情作品
To me, nothing was just porn if it changed how you thought.