纽约客再现（2015）

The New Yorker Presents S01E01

Part 3 Sept. 1, 2020, 10:13 a.m.

There they go, guys. There they go.
探员
我一直认为911事件
I always come up to the same conclusion
是本可以被阻止的
that 9/11 could have been stopped.
让人们知道发生了什么以及原因
Let people know what happened and why.
我们作为美国人欠人类的
We owe that as Americans. We owe that as human beings
也欠大众的
to one another.
911事件后调查揭露出
After 9/11, investigations revealed
两个劫机者在袭击前在美国
that two of the hijackers had arrived in America
生活了超过20个月
more than 20 months before the attacks,
而且主要的CIA(中♥央♥情报局)官员
and that key CIA officials knew
知道这一点却没有与FBI(联邦调查局)共享信息
but didn't share the information with the FBI,
CIA从90年代中期就开始追踪基♥地♥组♥织♥
who had been tracking Al-Qaeda since the mid-90s.
这种蒙骗从2000年开始
This deception began in 2000,
正值FBI在调查美国♥军♥舰
during the FBI's investigation of the bombing
科尔号♥的爆♥炸♥
of the U.S.S. Cole.
在船上亲自体验死亡
It was very difficult just to be on the boat,
看到水手们痛失战友的神情
to smell the death, to see the faces of the sailors
是一件很艰难的事情
who have lost their buddies and lost their mates.
与他们在船上相处的片刻
These moments with them on the ship
给了我们决心要
gave us all the determination
阿里·索凡
前任FBI特别探员
给了我们决心要
gave us all the determination
阿里·索凡
前任FBI特别探员
继续调查下去
to continue the investigation to the end.
阿里·索凡
前任FBI特别探员
继续调查下去
to continue the investigation to the end.
这位年轻的FBI探员
This young FBI agent,
阿里·索凡成为了案子负责人
Ali Soufan, became the case agent.
这么年轻的人能有这么强的责任感
It was really remarkable that somebody that young
劳伦斯·莱特
特约撰稿人《纽约客》
这么年轻的人能有这么强的责任感
It was really remarkable that somebody that young
劳伦斯·莱特
特约撰稿人《纽约客》
是非常了不起的
would have so much responsibility,
劳伦斯·莱特
特约撰稿人《纽约客》
是非常了不起的
would have so much responsibility,
但他是唯一的合格人选
but he was uniquely qualified.
他对基♥地♥组♥织♥有着尖锐的了解
He had a penetrating understanding of Al-Qaeda.
我们得以拘捕一个叫
We were able to arrest a terrorist
法赫德·库索的恐♥怖♥分♥子♥
by the name of Fahd Al-Quso.
他与奥萨马·本·拉♥登♥一同奋战于
He fought with Osama bin Laden
北喀布尔对战
in the trenches of North Kabul
北方联盟的战壕
against the Northern Alliance,
他还直接和美国♥军♥舰科尔号♥有关
and he was involved directly in the U.S.S. Cole.
库索谈及当他接到来自基♥地♥组♥织♥
Quso talked about when he get the phone call
上头的来电时
from his senior manager in Al-Qaeda,
一个名叫赫拉德的人
a guy by the name of Khallad.
我们很了解赫拉德
We knew a lot about Khallad.
我们知道他与基♥地♥组♥织♥的行动有关
We knew he was involved in the operations of Al-Qaeda.
库索告诉我们大概在1999年12月
Quso told us, approximately December of 1999,
他和一个在科尔号♥的人♥体♥炸♥弹♥
him and the suicide bomber in the U.S.S. Cole attack
被赫拉德下令
were given instruction by Khallad
运送三万六千美元到东南亚
to deliver $36,000 to Southeast Asia.
我们追踪到他们去了马来西亚
We were able to track them to Malaysia
然后到了吉隆坡
and to Kuala Lumpur.
我们有点吃惊
We were a little bit surprised
因为钱是从也门汇出
that money is actually going from Yemen,
而也门是个穷国家
which is a poor country,
然后汇到了东南亚
to Southeast Asia,
一个更富裕的地域
which is more affluent.
我们有了很多理论
We had a lot of theories.
可能是有人从沙特阿♥拉♥伯汇钱
Maybe somebody delivered money from Saudi Arabia.
- 可能一些富有的沙特... - 来袭击一艘船
- ...maybe some wealthy Saudi-- - ... to attack a ship.
我们问过CIA 你们知晓关于一个在东南亚
We asked the CIA. Do you know anything about a meeting
会面的任何消息吗
that took place in Southeast Asia?
他起草了一个正式的请求
He had a formal request drawn up.
我们请求了三次
We put the request three times.
他们知不知道任何关于一场
Do they have any information about a meeting
在吉隆坡发生的会面的消息
that might have taken place in Kuala Lumpur.
答案是不知道
The answer was no.
CIA没有讲真话
The CIA was not telling the truth.
在阿里·索凡提出请求的十个月前
Ten months before Ali Soufan's request,
中情局监视到了马来西亚会面
the agency had monitored the Malaysia meeting
而且掌握了关于科尔号♥爆♥炸♥
and gained intelligence that would be critical
和911事件的
to understanding both the Cole bombing
至关重要的情报
and the 9/11 attacks.
但是情报没有共享
But the intelligence wasn't shared.
情报被CIA内部专门研究本·拉♥登♥的小组
It was sequestered inside CIA's dedicated
昵称为亚力克站所隐藏
Bin Laden Unit, nicknamed Alec Station,
阿里·索凡的两个FBI同事也在其中
where two of Ali Soufan's FBI colleagues were detailed.
我是从纽约来道格是被外派来的
There was me from New York. And then Doug got assigned there.
前FBI特别探员
亚力克站联络员
道格·米勒从华盛顿外勤分配过来
Doug Miller got assigned there from the Washington field office.
道格·米勒从华盛顿外勤分配过来
Doug Miller got assigned there from the Washington field office.
简直是有史以来最棒的事
It was the greatest thing ever done.
因为没有道格·米勒的到来
Because without Doug Miller,
我们永远不会知道
we never would have known
我们现在讨论的事情
about what we're talking about.
所以你们在亚力克站
So you guys are in Alec Station,
然后可以看到CIA看到的
and you're seeing what the CIA is seeing.
是的我们可以看到CIA在写什么
All right, we're seeing what the CIA wrote.
可以看到CIA在调查什么
We're seeing the CIA investigation.
马来西亚会面是一次
The Malaysia meeting was a meeting
一群已知和未知的恐♥怖♥分♥子♥
of terrorists known and unknown
-聚集在一起筹划未来阴谋的见面 - 是一次峰会
- to discuss future plots. - This was a summit.
所谓的恐怖行动峰会
It was the so-called Terror Summit.
科尔号♥爆♥炸♥案之前
Before the Cole bombing,
911事件之前我们和基♥地♥组♥织♥的
before 9/11, we have a meeting of
高级首领见了面
top operatives of Al-Qaeda.
CIA是知道的
And the CIA knows about it.
CIA知道
Did the CIA understand
参加恐怖行动峰会的人
that the people who were at the Terror Summit
之后涉及科尔爆♥炸♥案吗
were later involved in the Cole bombing?
知道特别是一位叫克拉德的男人
Yes. Particularly a gentleman named Khallad,
他是科尔爆♥炸♥案的策划者
who was the mastermind of the Cole bombing.
CIA对调查17位美国水手们的
The CIA were hiding this information
谋杀案的调查员
from an investigator who was trying to solve
隐藏了这个信息
the murder of 17 American sailors.
我很难理解这一点
It's hard for me to understand that
除了这是妨碍司法公正
except as obstruction of justice.
CIA的立场是马来西亚会面的机会有多罕见
From the CIA's point of view, how rare of an opportunity
非常罕见
- was that Malaysia meeting? - Extremely rare.
掌握了实时信息
Here you have real-time information.
你有机会阻止然后跟踪他们
You have an opportunity to intercept it and follow them
还知道到底发生了什么
and know what's going on.
恐怖行动峰会的涵义
The implications of the Terror Summit
远超过科尔爆♥炸♥案
went well beyond the Cole bombing.
参加马来西亚会面
Attending the Malaysia meeting
有两个已知的基♥地♥组♥织♥人员
were two known Al-Qaeda operatives
也在911事件的劫机者之中
who would be among the 9/11 hijackers.
哈利德·阿米达和纳瓦夫·哈兹米
Khalid Al-Mihdhar and Nawaf Al-Hazmi
两个来自麦加的有钱人
were rich kids from Mecca,
他们加入了圣♥战♥
and they had gotten into jihad.
他们愿意成为殉道者
They were willing to be martyrs.
CIA闯入阿米达在迪拜的酒店房♥间
CIA broke into Mihdhar's hotel room in Dubai,
发现了他的护照
and they found his passport,
护照里面
and in the passport
他们发现了美国签证
they found a visa for the United States.
CIA知道他要来美国甚至在他来之前就知道
The CIA knew he was coming to America even before he got here.
道格·米勒说 "这很重要
Doug Miller said, "This is important.
我想要通知局里"
I'm wanna be able to inform the Bureau."