詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E01

Part 8 May 10, 2021, 12:05 p.m.

And they live in a primeval world
被一家企业所殖民
which is colonized by a corporation,
甚至不是一个国家
not even a country.
它是如此有感染力因为事实上
It's so powerful because it is a reflection
它正是全世界的人
of, in fact, the way humans have conducted themselves,
数百年来行为的一种映射
over the centuries, all over the world.
不
No!
当我们拍摄那场戏时
When we're shooting that scene,
吉姆想让我们表达出更深的情感
Jim wanted us to dig deeper.
我们只是在为一棵倒下的树而哭泣
We were just crying out for a fallen tree,
但那不够
but it wasn't deep enough.
就好比这树不光是你的叔叔
It wasn't as if this tree was your uncle,
你的爷爷奶奶你的母亲
was your grandparent, was your mother.
而是你身体的延伸
It's an extension of your body,
他想要看到那种痛苦
and he wanted to see that anguish
因为只有那样
because at that point,
人们在这星球上的所作所为才是真的错了
what the humans are doing on the planet is wrong.
而他们在那里并不受欢迎
And they're not welcome.
故事情节发展到那里时
By that time in the story,
我们都成了纳威人
we're all part Na'vi.
我认为在那一情节中
That scene is really the moment, I think,
观众已经完全脱离了人类身份
that the audience is completely disengaged from the humans.
我们不再对人类抱有任何同情
And we no longer feel like we have any sympathy for them.
我认为作家们尝试科幻小说
I think authors try science fiction
埃里克·海瑟尔
编剧
《降临》
正是因为他们在所处的政♥治♥或文化背景中
specifically because there's something that's making them angry
因某事而感到愤怒
in their current culture or in their political climate,
而这是他们把各自感到失望的事物
and this is a way for them to shine a light
展现出来的一种方式
on what it is that has them so frustrated.
《第三类接触》引出了
"Close Encounters" led to --
引出了《E.T.》
led to "E.T."
我认为这某种意义上是更人性化的
which I think of as kind of "Close Encounters II,"
《第三类接触》的续集但你
the more personal -- but you --
史蒂文·斯皮尔伯格
导演制片人
我也这么想
I think of it the same way.
您好像选取了很多类似题材
It seems like you took many of those themes --
这种和外星人第一次接触的题材
those first-contact themes --
而让它变得特别以家庭为重心
and just made it very kind of family-centric.
《E.T.》本来就不是
"E.T." was never meant to be
一部关于外星人的电影
a movie about extraterrestrials.
它本来是
It was meant to be a story
关于我父母离婚的故事
about my mom and dad getting a divorce.
原来如此
Ah, right.
所以我开始写一个故事
And so I started writing a story.
也不算是剧本只是一个故事
Not a script per se, but I started writing a story
讲的是
about what it was like
父母离婚后
when your parents divide the family up
搬到不同城市所发生的事
and they move to different states.
当我拍摄《第三类接触》时
When I was shooting "Close Encounters",
当我拍摄那个小外星人
and when I did the scene of the little alien
从母舰走出来
coming out of the mothership
向弗朗索瓦·特吕弗[影片中男主角扮演者]and doing the Kodaly hand-sign
做着柯达伊手势的场景时
signals to Franois Truffaut,
突然萌生了这种想法
it all came together.
我想等一下
I thought, "Wait a second.
要是外星人没回飞船呢
What if that alien doesn't go back up into the ship?
要是他留下来了亦或是他迷了路
What if he stayed behind, or maybe what if he even got lost
一个人被困在这里呢
and he was marooned here?"
如果一个离异家庭的孩子
"What would happen if a child of a divorce
-内心有巨大的缺失需要填补 -是啊
- or family of a divorce... - Right.
而他正好是用新结交的外星好伙伴
...with a huge hole to fill, filled the hole
来填补了这份缺失又会发生什么呢
with his new best extraterrestrial friend?"
没错
Exactly.
说起早期的外星人电影
One of my clearest memories,
我最清晰的记忆之一
in terms of an early alien film,
当属观看《E.T.》
is watching "E.T.", of course,
编剧是梅丽莎·马西森
which was written by Melissa Mathison.
西恩·列侬
音乐人
事实上她告诉我原始剧本里
She told me, actually, that the original script
E.T.没有奄奄一息
did not have him dying,
《E.T.》
我父亲[约翰·列侬]的去世
and that when my dad passed away,
对她影响很大
she was so impacted by that,
从某种程度上说她觉得
that she sort of felt
她应当为我或那些经历过亲人离世的孩子们
that she should write that in for me, in a way,
加入这样的剧情
or for kids who had suffered loss,
让电影不只有轻松的一面
and make it more than a light affair.
妈妈
Mom?
在设计E.T.时斯皮尔伯格强调说
Spielberg made a point of designing E.T.
E.T.看上去要尽可能地让人产生共鸣
to be as empathetic-looking as possible,
埃米·尼科尔森
电影评论家主持人
佳能秀
为此他和设计师卡洛·兰巴尔迪
to the point that he had his designer, Carlo Rambaldi,
浏览了经历过大萧条时期的老年人照片
look at pictures of elderly people from the Depression
并试图找出是什么原因
and try to figure out what made these people
让这些人看起来睿智中带着伤感
look empathetic and wise and sad.
接着他问
And then he said,
"能不能融入一些阿尔伯特·爱因斯坦的感觉"
"Can you mix in a little bit of Albert Einstein?"
E.T.的形象既能赢得人们的尊敬
It was very important that E.T. , be a face
还能收获大家的喜爱这一点非常重要
that would earn your respect and earn your fondness.
-没错 -我不想看到一个可爱的小家伙
- Right. - I didn't want a cute little character
从大门走出来
that would come out of the gate
一出场就让观众齐声发出这样的声音
making the whole audience in unison go,
这是我最不想要的
That's the last thing I wanted.
正是因为这样我认为电影人
So that's why I think filmmakers
在塑造外星人时有时需要些技巧
sometimes have to play tricks when they portray aliens,
刘宇昆
科幻小说作家
赋予外星人一些似人的特征
to give them humanlike features,
为的是唤起人类内心的共鸣
in order to evoke that kind of feeling of empathy from us.
我之所以能得到这份工作
And the reason I was hired for this job
是因为我的手指真的是又细又长
is because I have real long, thin fingers,
这得怪我父亲
which is my father's fault.
本来我的工作只是拍一些特写镜头
Initially, I was hired just to do close-ups --
卡普里切·罗思
动作编排
《E.T.》
比如制♥作♥通讯器翻翻书
making the communicator, turning pages in a book,
摸一摸植物
touching the plant.
把手伸到土里
Go down to the dirt underneath
挖一挖我要看到你在挖土
and dig a little bit. Let me see you dig a little bit.
随后在拍摄的第一晚
And then, the first night,
他似乎爱上我的双手了
he kind of fell in love with my hands,
我想这是唯一的解释
I guess, is the only way to put it.
卡普里切你面前有剪刀
Caprice, there's the scissors.
伸手去拿剪刀
Reaching the scissors.
他觉得电子动画角色和人的双手
He felt that the combination
结合在一起
of the animatronic creature
恰恰是完美的搭配
and live hands was the perfect formula.
手的运动
The hand movement, you know,
能让观众参与进来
was something that created a sense of engagement,
幽灵DJ
作曲家多媒体艺术家
在看到E.T.奇怪的外型时
gave you something to focus on
把注意力集中在他的手上
when you're looking at this strange body,
最重要的是这会给你一种感觉
and above all, it gave you a sense
人类能够将自己的情感投射到其他物种上
of how human beings could project onto the other
与此同时不会产生任何消极情绪
without any negative consequences.
我希望看到你用力抱住他
I want to see you really hug.
好极了亨利你做得真棒
That's perfect, Henry. I love that,
把下巴靠在E.T.的身上好的
with your chin resting on E. T. Okay.
影片里最后的拥抱
The last hug in the movie
对我来说意义重大
is one that's very special to me.
过来
Come.
这次我需要真的拥抱亨利
This was the opportunity that I actually got to hug Henry.