詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E05

Part 3 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

只有巨大的大型计算机
There were giant mainframe computers,
使用那种穿孔卡片和孔屑之类的东西
but it was with punch cards and chads and all kinds of stuff.
可视化程度很低
It was not very visual.
我不得不创造出一种
And I had to kind of develop a style
我觉得可信的方式
that I thought was credible.
他用这部电影激发了人们的想象力
He sparked people's imagination with this film
埃米·尼克尔森
影评人主持人
佳能秀
而后人们使之成真
and then they made it happen.
-你好法兰克 -生日快乐亲爱的
- Hello, Frank! - Happy birthday, darling.
生日快乐
Happy birthday.
飞机座位后背的独♥立♥电视平板电脑
Individual TVs in the back of your airplane seat, the iPad.
iPod之所以称为iPod 是因为
You know, the iPod is called the iPod because of...
哈尔打开辅助舱通道门
Open the pod bay doors, HAL.
《2001》是这类型科幻片的一个巨大突破
"2001" was an extraordinary breakthrough for the genre.
凯尔·杜拉
演员
《2001太空漫游》
拍摄是在巨大的空间里完成的
The picture is being done in such a gigantic scope.
离心机是如此真实如此不寻常
The centrifuge is so realistic and so unusual.
不久你就忘了自己是个演员
After a while, you begin to forget that you're an actor,
开始觉得自己就是个宇航员
you begin to really feel like an astronaut.
和斯坦利·库布里克合作让我大开眼界
Working with Stanley Kubrick blew my mind.
你意识到你就站在一个天才面前
You just were aware that you were in the presence of genius.
我之前从没看到过
I don't think I have ever seen
这样的东西
anything quite like this before.
某种程度来说哈尔是控制整艘飞船的机器
HAL in a sense is the machine that controls the whole ship,
但从我们的角度他也是另一名船员
but he's another crewmember from our point of view.
我们不会认为
We don't think in terms of,
"我在操作一台电脑"
"Oh, I'm dealing with a computer here."
画得不错戴夫
That's a very nice rendering, Dave.
也许是因为人声吧
Maybe because of that human voice.
哈尔和我们说话的时候
I mean, HAL has a perfectly normal inflection
完全是正常的反应
when he speaks to us.
我在想你对这次的任务
I've wondered whether you might be having
是否有过其他想法
some second thoughts about the mission?
什么意思
How do you mean?
让一个机器人控制着
What does it mean to have a robot
你赖以生存的飞船意味着什么
who's basically running the ship that supports your life?
安娜李·纽威茨
高级科技文化编辑
科技之美
那需要对机器有多大的信任
That's a lot of trust to place in a machine.
电影的转折点在鲍曼说
The key point in the film occurs when Bowman says...
据我所知
Well, as far as I know,
9000型电脑从未被关机过
no 9000 computer's ever been disconnected.
9000型电脑也没有失误过
Well, no 9000 computer has ever fouled up before.
我不确定他会怎么想
Well, I'm not so sure what he'd think about it.
哈尔9000正在读他们的唇语
And HAL 9000 is reading their lips.
那一刻我们意识到
At that point, we recognize HAL 9000
戴维·杰罗尔德
作家
《星际旅行》《巴比伦五号♥》
哈尔9000有了自我意识它必须自保
has some imperative that it must survive.
我知道你和法兰克打算将我关机
I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me,
但我不允许这样的事情发生
and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen.
从那时起它就不再是一台机器了
And at that point, it's no longer a machine.
它是一个生物
It is a being.
人工智能的危险之处在于
The danger artificial intelligence poses
丽莎·乔伊
执行制片人
《西部世界》
它有着造成我们无法预期结果的力量
is the power to unleash results that we hadn't anticipated.
哈尔9000型电脑做出了和电影开头的猩猩
HAL 9000 does what we see the apes
生命功能情况危急
一样的行为
in the beginning of the movie do,
他杀了人
he commits murder.
生命功能结束
我们对机器人的刻板印象是
We like to stereotype robots
纯逻辑的实体
as entities of pure logic,
当然在《2001》中它犯了可怕的错误
but of course in "2001," it all goes horribly wrong
我们不得不杀了它
and we have to kill the robot.
你以为你在做什么戴夫
Just what do you think you're doing, Dave?
哈尔死亡的场景
HAL's death scene
如此反常
is such a wonderfully perverse moment
因为看着它分崩离析衰退
because it is unbearably poignant
强纳森·列瑟
作家编辑
《菲利浦·K·狄克精选集》
令人感到无法忍♥受的心酸
watching him disintegrate and regress.
*黛茜*
*Daisy*
*黛茜*
*Daisy*
在《2001》拍摄的时代贝尔实验室
Bell laboratories was experimenting with voice synthesis
正在研发语♥音♥合成
around the time of "2001."
*黛茜黛茜*
最早的语♥音♥合成实验之一
One of the very earliest voice synthesis experiments
*给我你的答案*
是IBM电脑演唱的《黛茜黛茜》
was "Daisy, Daisy" Performed by an IBM computer.
*为了你的爱我近乎疯狂*
因为亚瑟·克拉克非常痴迷于计算机技术
And because Arthur Clarke is kind of a super geek,
他想要用它
he wanted to actually use that,
于是他鼓励库布里克把它用在电影中
and he encouraged Kubrick to use that very thing
因为它增加了哈尔被杀过程
because it led to kind of historical credibility
的历史可信度
to the whole thing that HAL in the process of being killed
显示出哈尔死亡时会退化回初始状态
or lobotomized or dying would regress to his birth.
*我已几近疯狂*
*I'm half crazy*
*只为得到你的爱*
*All for the love of you*
发明一种科技很难
You know, it's really hard to make a technology.
设计一个人工智能很难
It's really hard to design A.I.
需要无数天才投入无数心血
So much thinking, so many brilliant minds
才能做到
have to go into it.
但比创造人工智能更艰难的是
But even harder than creating artificial intelligence
学会如何掌控它学会如何关闭它
is learning how to contain it, learning how to shut it off.
我们可能一生都
I mean, Hal will exist in probably
忘不掉哈尔
in our lifetimes, I would think.
我也这么想那一幕很可怕
Oh, I think so, too. It's scary.
伊隆·马斯克一直认为第三次世界大战
Elon Musk continues to predict that World War III
不会是核战争
will not be a nuclear holocaust,
而会是机械试图统治人类的战争
it will be a kind of mechanized takeover.
斯蒂芬·霍金也持有类似观点
Yeah, and Stephen Hawking's been saying similar things.
这非常惊悚因为这就等于说
That's pretty spooky because that pretty much says
尽管人类不情愿也会有种比我们更聪明的
that against our will, something smarter than us,
棋高一着的物种
who can beat us at chess,
会以世界为棋局
will use this world as a chessboard
将死我们彻底灭绝我们
and will checkmate us completely out of existence.
《地球停转之日》
不幸的是科幻作品中
Unfortunately, most depictions of robots
对机器人的描述大多非常负面
in science fiction have been really negative,
总是描绘猖獗的机器人
very much depictions of rampaging robots
丽莎·亚斯泽克
科幻研究教授
佐治亚理工学院
与人类决一死战
engaged in a desperate struggle with humans
以决定谁得以主宰地球和宇宙的命运
to decide who shall own the fate of the Earth and the universe
这是科幻作品长久以来的传统
and that's part of a very long tradition in science fiction.
《大都会》
弗里茨·朗的《大都会》即使不是第一部
Fritz Lang's "Metropolis" was one of the first
史诗科幻片也是第一批史诗科幻片之一
if not the first big science-fiction epic film.
艾略特·卡兰
总编剧
《神秘科学影院3000》
它描述了一个未来世界的故事
It's the story of this very futuristic world.
有着影视史上最伟大的反派机器人之一
There is one of the great bad robots of all movies --
玛利亚这就是影片版的机器人
Maria. That is the movie robot.
通俗杂♥志♥通常有全彩封面
Pulp magazines always had a full color cover.
西德尼·珀喀维兹
物理学家科普作家
《好莱坞科学电影科学以及世界末日》
封面上经常是脱离人类创造者的
Very often the cover would be robots
失控的机器人
that had just run amok from human creators.
他们总是机械的
They were always mechanical.
总是庞大笨重
They were big, hulking things.
钢铁制成的机械发光的红眼睛
Lots of steel and machinery, glowing-red eyes.
有爪子而不是手指并且总是非常暴♥力♥
Claws, not fingers, and they were generally quite violent.
这种印象持续了很久
So, that image persisted a long time.
艾萨克·阿西莫夫
《我机器人》