詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E04

Part 2 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

of course it was gonna manifest itself that way.
而且在911事件之后
And after September 11th,
几乎立刻就出现了
there was a big resurgence of it...
这种思想的复兴
...almost immediately.
像《我是传奇》等作品
Things like "I Am Legend," Things like --
掀起了一波潮流
It was a big wave...
而且对七十年代的那种
...and very, very concerned back to that '70s idea of,
"也许我们真的搞砸了"的想法忧心忡忡
"You know what? We may well screw this all up."
我一直很喜欢科幻作品的一点
I'm fascinated by the way that science fiction
是它总能表现出我们的焦虑
is always, you know, manifesting our -- our angst,
我们的梦想和噩梦
our dreams and our -- and our nightmares.
《后天》
每一代人对末日的描写
Every generation has its own version
《奇幻核子战》
都是不同的
of the apocalypse,
即某种可以瞬间
some horrible event that basically annihilates
《世界末日》
使一大堆人消失的可怕事件
a bunch of people all at the same time.
《十二猴子》
末日主题是科幻作品的一大主题
Apocalypses are a big theme in science fiction
《雪国列车》
而且一直都是这样
and always have been.
它有趣的原因是我们总觉得
The reason they're interesting is because we always feel like
亚当·卢瑟福
科学记者
BBC第四频道
还有五分钟就到午夜了
the clock is at 5 minutes to midnight,
末日即将来临了
that the apocalypse is gonna come.
科幻作家和导演们
The science fiction authors and filmmakers
《雪国列车》
通过展示黑暗未来的各种可能性
may have given us the ammunition
为我们提供了依据
by illuminating for us the dark possibilities
而这些可能性越来越真实了
which are now becoming more and more real.
对人类来说最令人震撼
I think that one of the most powerful,
彼得·卡帕尔蒂
演员
眼花缭乱也最糟糕的结局
dazzling, nasty ends for -- for humankind
就是《人猿星球》
is "Planet of the Apes."
《人猿星球》
电影改编自皮埃尔·布尔的著作
The book on which it's based, by Pierre Bool,
《人猿星球》皮埃尔·布尔
书中想象了另一个世界
it's just a vision of another world.
詹姆斯·格雷克
作家
《时间旅行简史》
但在最后
But at the end there's, of course,
著名的大反转
this famous big reveal
会让你的心一瞬间沉到谷底
that makes -- makes your heart turn upside down for a moment
你发现他们其实没去另外一个星球
when you discover that they didn't travel to another planet.
不知不觉中他们穿越到了
Unwittingly, they have traveled
未来的地球
to the future of the Earth itself.
都见鬼去吧
Damn you all to Hell!
因此这个故事其实讲述了我们自己的未来
So it turns out to be a story about our own future,
自己的命运
about our destiny.
它描述了十分遥远的后末世时代
It's a far, far, far future post-apocalypse
人类已经被猿取代
where humans have been replaced by apes
而人类自己成了愚蠢的动物
and -- and humans are now kind of dumb animals.
《猩球征服》
在第一系列
Within the first series,
《决战猩球》
尤其是电影的第二系列中
but especially in the second series of films,
《猩球崛起2 黎明之战》
我们能发现人类的灭亡
we discover that humanity's demise,
《猩球崛起3 终极之战》
不仅是由从天而降的核弹雨
it's not just caused by a rain of nukes from the sky.
或者单单是僵尸瘟疫所造成的
It's not just caused by a zombie pandemic.
事实上有一系列的影响因素
It's actually a whole bunch of different factors.
优秀科幻作品共有的特质是
A hallmark of really good science fiction
它们都有这样一个概念
that stays with us is this idea that
灾难不是由单一因素造成的
the apocalypse is complicated.
这个系列就是灾难很好的例子
And the series is a great example of a-an apocalypse
摧残一切却又不失希望
which also has an element of hope in it.
我们将《人猿星球》视为愤世嫉俗的电影
We think of "Planet of the Apes" as this cynical movie
在其中人类将破坏一切
where humans are going to ruin everything.
但在电影开头却有一个温馨的场景
But there's that lovely moment at the beginning.
埃米·尼克尔森
电影评论家主持人
佳能秀
从第一部电影开始
From the very first film,
查尔顿·赫斯顿就大声对
Charlton Heston is speaking aloud
他认为在七百年后将会发现他的
to the humans of the future, who he thinks are gonna
未来人类说
discover him in 700 years, and he says...
现在听到我发讯的人
You who are reading me now
《人猿星球》
是新一代的人类
are a different breed --
我希望是更好的一代
I hope a better one.
他所持的乐观态度实在让我心酸
And the optimism of that just breaks my heart,
尤其是当你再次回看电影
especially when you're rewatching the film
并且知道将要发生的事情时
and you know what happens.
这是在警告我们如果把今天搞砸
It's trying to warn us about what's gonna happen
未来将会怎样
if we screw up today.
好比你把一块石头扔进水池里
It's almost like you drop a stone in a pool,
查尔顿·赫斯顿在第二十波涟漪中醒来
and he wakes up at the 20th ripple,
然而在1972年发生的事故已经毁灭了世界
where what's happened in 1972 has ruined the world.
这是令人震惊的因果报应
It's frighteningly a promissory note.
我认为我们看这些电影时
I think we all watch those movies...
-把他们杀光 -都会感到一些真♥相♥
- Kill them all! ...- and feel some truth,
感到一切都必然会消失
some inevitability to idea of it all going away.
我们自食其果
Us rendering us...
变得可有可无最后惨遭抛弃
dispensable and dispensed with.
如果考虑一下所有能导致人类灭绝的原因
If you look at all the things that could take us out...
雷德利·斯科特
导演制片人
人口过剩
...overpopulation,
气候变化或核战争
climate change, or nuclear war.
也许人工智能作为武器出现
Maybe AI emerges but is used as a weapon.
将不会是单一因素
It won't be one thing.
我们为娱乐大众而创造的黑暗未来
I think dark futures in what we do, as entertainment,
来自于偏执与妄想
the engine of that is paranoia.
这种偏执是健康的还是恶性的
Is it healthy paranoia or unhealthy?
十分健康
Oh, it's very healthy.
-是健康的 -十分健康
- It's healthy... - It's very healthy.
因为你在一直问"假如...会怎样"
'cause you're constantly saying, "What if?" ?
如果你没有这样我只能说你不开窍
And if you're not saying, "What if?" You're a fool.
《艾利之书》
世上有无数种类型的故事
There's so many different kinds of stories
讲的都是糟糕的未来
that are basically about a really bad future.
安娜李·纽威茨
资深科技文化编辑
《科技之美》
《终结者3 机器的崛起》
有了世界末日的故事也就有了反乌托邦
So there's an apocalyptic story, and then there's dystopia.
《超世纪谍杀案》
这是什么做的
How did it come to this?
豆粒绿是人肉做的
Soylent Green is people!
反乌托邦意为"过程中出了差错
Dystopia is, "Something went wrong along the way,
事情未能按预想的发展"
and things are not working out right."
埃利奥特·卡伦
总编剧
《神秘科学影院三千》
它代表着未来社会
And it's about a future looking at
最糟糕的情况
a worst case scenario of society
《人类之子》
往往是人类自相残杀
where often this is something humans are doing to humans.
《饥饿游戏》
波丽姆·伊夫迪恩
Primrose Everdeen.
波丽
Prim!
不不我自愿替她
No! No! I volunteer!
我自愿做贡品
I volunteer as tribute.
《饥饿游戏》中所构建的世界
The world of "The Hunger Games"
十分残忍♥ 无情反乌托邦
is a very brutal, hard, dystopic world.
一个专♥制♥政♥府♥
You have a tyrannical government
乔什·哈切森
演员
《饥饿游戏》系列
他们每四年
and they are just gonna, at random,
就随机抓走一个孩子
once every four years, grab one of your kids
让他们战斗至死
and -- and make them fight to the death.
我认为皮塔是个很好的角色
I think Peeta's a great character.
我能对他的想法感同身受
I really connected with his idea of even though
尽管他身边发生着疯狂的事