詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E06

Part 4 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

整个世界刚经受了一场
in which the world has gone through
巨大的全球灾难
an enormous global catastrophe.
尼尔逊在烧庄稼
Nelson's torching his whole crop.
枯萎病
Blight?
他们说这是最后一季秋葵了
They're saying it's the last harvest for okra.
再也没有了
Ever.
我饰演库珀的岳父
I play Cooper's father-in-law.
马修·麦康纳饰演前宇航员库珀
Matthew McConaughey plays Cooper, a former astronaut,
他几经周折
who by several turns of plot,
最终飞向外太空
goes shooting into outer space.
我们得移♥民♥到另一颗星球上否则无法生存
We've got to move to another planet or we'll not survive.
《星际穿越》是一部不同寻常的时空旅行电影
"Interstellar" is an unusual time travel film
影片并没有制♥造♥时空旅行机器
because instead of building a literal time machine
埃米·尼克尔森
影评人主持人
佳能秀
然后讲述发明创造
and having it be about an invention,
而是聚焦于空间对时间的影响
it's about the way time works in space,
时间因虫洞和引力
the way that it speeds up or slows down
加速或减速流逝
depending on wormholes and gravitational pull.
审视时空穿越
I think there are all sorts of different ways
有多种不同方式
of looking at time travel,
我拍摄《星际穿越》时
and when I came to do "Interstellar,"
那并不是一部时间旅行电影
which is not a time travel movie
但它具备这个要素...
but has that element in it...
-在影片末尾时间被折叠了 -确实如此
- It does fold time at the end. - It does.
但你的设定依然十分严谨
You still approached it very rigorously
你拜访了许多业界顶尖专家
by going to some of the top experts.
这是全过程中最让我着迷的部分
It was a really fascinating part of the process
因为基普·索恩是最早...
because Kip Thorne who was one of the original...
基普·索恩
理论物理学家诺贝尔奖获得者
-我记得他来自加州理工 -没错
- Caltech I think. - Caltech.
基普是物理学界的大神
And Kip is one of the great minds in physics.
他教会了我当你把理论物理学概念
What he taught me is that once you can grasp
当作天体物理学概念来掌握时
those physical concepts as concepts of astrophysics,
它们会为你提供
they offer you this great launching pad
许多关于相对论
for story possibilities
以及其他科学理论的故事灵感
to do with relativity and all these things.
-比如时间膨胀 -没错
- Time dilation. - Exactly.
时间旅行有两种形式
There are two forms of time travel.
一种是不可能实现的
There's the time travel that is probably impossible
也就是回到过去
and that's going backwards.
而另一种时间旅行不仅有可能实现
Then you have time travel, which is not only possible,
乔纳森·诺兰
编剧
《星际穿越》
并且已经在现实世界实现
but already a feature of our world,
也就是利用时间膨胀前往未来
which is time dilation forwards.
科学上有个被称为"双生子悖论"的理论
In science, there's this thing called the "Twin paradox,"
主要是说如果我的双胞胎兄弟登上一艘飞船
which basically says that if my twin gets in a spaceship
并且以接近光速的速度航行
and goes traveling at, near to the speed of light,
然后再回到地球
and then returns to Earth,
当我的那个兄弟回到地球时他会比我年轻
when my twin gets back to Earth, my twin will be younger than I am.
西尔韦斯特·詹姆斯·盖茨
福特基金会物理学教授
布朗大学
那也是时间旅行的一种形式
That's a form of time travel.
而这种形式在电影《星际穿越》中
And that is actually brilliantly illustrated
得到了很好的展现
in the movie "Interstellar."
快快行动
Go, go, go, go, go.
这里的一小时等于七年珍惜时间
Seven years per hour here. Let's make it count.
《星际穿越》以最为先进的方式探索了
"Interstellar" Explored, in the most advanced way,
约瑟夫·戈登-莱维特
演员
时间旅行的实现方式
how time travel really might work.
当他们前往那颗水星球时
When they go to the water planet,
时间的效应出现了差异
time works differently.
他们回到飞船上后
They come back to their ship,
那个留守飞船的人已经变老了
and the guy who stayed on the ship has grown old.
我等了许多年
I've waited years.
你等了多少年
How -- How many years?
到现在应该是...
By now it must be...
23年4个月零8天
23 years, 4 months, 8 days.
《星际穿越》中认为时间旅行总是会
"Interstellar" Suggests that time travel will always
带来相应的代价
have a certain kind of tradeoff.
在一方面科学家拥有的
So on the one hand, the scientist's ability
穿越时空的能力对于拯救人类至关重要
to travel through space and time is essential to saving humanity,
但另一方面他必须踏上这段旅程
but the fact that he has to go on this journey in the first place,
永序号♥
太空探索
与他的女儿分别
and to be separated from his daughter
在她大半个人生中缺席表明了它的代价
for most of her natural life, suggests the very real cost.
你好爸爸
Hey, Dad.
你好墨菲
Hey, Murph.
你这狗♥娘♥养♥的
You son of a bitch.
影片中马修
There are moments when Matthew
可以通过录像
is allowed to see his daughter,
再次见到女儿
by, uh, video stream.
这样的时刻令人心碎
It's absolutely heartbreaking.
你曾说当你回来以后
You once told me that when you came back,
我们的年龄会一样大
we might be the same age.
而今天我的年龄和你离开时一样大了
And today, I'm the age you were when you left.
现在你该回家了吧
This might be a real good time for you to come back.
人们常说 "我的孩子才出生一眨眼
People talk about, "My kid was born, and I blinked,
马特·辛格
主编影评人
打破银幕
我就要送他去上大学了"
and then I sent them off to college."
这部电影讲的就是这个
The movie is literally about that.
那些你毕生追求的事业
The sacrifices that go along with whatever it is
所带来的牺牲
that you've given your life to,
以你与家人相聚的时间为代价
at the expense of these moments with your family,
我觉得这是《星际穿越》的诗意所在
which I think is the very poetic part of "Interstellar."
如果说《星际穿越》探索了时间旅行的代价
So if "Interstellar" Explores the human cost of time travel,
那么《命运之门》也做了相同的事
"Primer" Does something very similar,
不过是从不同的角度进行的
but it does so in a different way.
我们看到两个平凡的工程师
We have two everyday engineers
无意间创造了时间旅行
who accidentally create time travel.
有想法吗
Anything?
-这正常吗 -我不知道
- Is this normal? - I don't know.
有些人认为这是最可信
Some people think it's the most credible,
最复杂的时间旅行题材电影
complicated, time travel movie.
杰夫·高布伦
演员
它的拍摄成本非常低
It's done on a very low budget.
你知道那部片的导演是谁吗
Do you know who directed that?
沙恩·卡鲁斯
Shane Carruth.
他自导自演特别帅气
He's in it, he's lovely in it.
它在干什么
What's it doing?
我不确定是不是我的错觉
I don't know if I'm making it up...
这两个人亚伯和亚伦
These two guys, Abe and Aaron,
一直在研究这个现象
keep investigating this phenomenon.
他们的实验中出现了一个奇怪的情况
There's this weird anomaly that shows up.
最终他们发现他们创造出
What they finally realize is that they have created a space
一个可以实现时间旅行的空间
that you can travel through time in.
沙恩·卡鲁斯
演员导演
《命运之门》
他们用这个原理造了一个更大的盒子
So they take this, and create a bigger box,
大到可以容纳人
big enough for a human to be in.
一开始他们使用时间旅行的目的非常世俗
When they do this, they use it for really mundane
非常符合一般人的想法
and very human purposes.
其中一人以此来炒股
One uses it to play the stock market.
时间旅行最终让朋友离间
And time travel ends up pulling the friends apart.
我只想知道你用了哪个盒子
I just want to know what box you used.
你只给自己造了一个盒子对吧只有一个
You built the one for you, right? Just the one?
对啊不然你觉得我造了多少个
Yeah. How many do you think I made?
他们互相怀疑对方
They are suspicious of each other
安娜李·纽威茨
科技文化资深编辑
科技之美
又在互相欺骗对方
and they're also deceiving each other