詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E04

Part 5 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

but he's a good cop who believes that there are bad guys,
而自己的职责就是阻止坏人
and he's there to stop them.
枪枪枪
Ooh. Guns, guns, guns!
我一直在构思一个
I kept thinking about a science fiction story
发生在商业世界的科幻故事
that was kind of set in the business world.
当时是八十年代
You know, it was the 80's and it was kind of
贪婪的一代刚刚兴起
the beginning of the greed generation.
《机械战警》讲述了我们生活的世界
So in "RoboCop," It was saying that now we live in a world
是在金钱和公♥司♥的控制下运转的我想
that is really run by money and corporations, and I thought,
"我们应该拍一部电影讲述这是不可避免的
"Oh, we should make a movie about how this is inevitable,
但也许能阻止这一切"
but maybe you can stop it."
你被捕了
You are under arrest.
机械战警以为自己要抓一个坏人
RoboCop thinks he's catching one bad guy,
逮捕模式
结果发现坏人比他还要强大
and then it turns out the bad guy is even bigger than him.
埃米·尼克尔森
电影评论家主持人
佳能秀
是整个系统
It's a system.
这就是科幻的力量它能让我们
That's the power of sci-fi, it makes it possible
罗伯特·柯克曼
漫画家执行制片人
《行尸走肉》
在看机器人射人裆下的同时
to sit there and kind of think about these very big topics
静下心来
while you're watching, you know,
思考这些重大的问题
robots, uh, shoot guys in the penis.
该你了怪胎
Your move, creep.
《机械战警》中的暴♥力♥
The violence of "RoboCop"
令人瞠目结舌
is absolutely startling.
它说明了这是反乌托邦社会
You know, it shows that this is dystopia
世界上发生了
and there is something very terrible
非常糟糕的事才使我们沦落至此
that has happened to the world to get us to this place.
保罗·范霍文
导演
《机械战警》
我总会惊讶于别人提出的问题
I'm always a bit amazed at people ask,
"为什么你的电影里充满了暴♥力♥"
"Why there is so much violence in your movies?"
我会回答
Then I would answer,
"为什么你的电影里没有暴♥力♥"
"Why is there not violence in your movies?"
暴♥力♥是宇宙的一部分
Violence is built into the universe.
对我来说这是我在
And that was, for me, something that I understood
宗教角度上的认知
from a, let's say, religious point of view.
我觉得墨菲应该被钉在十字架上而死
I felt that the death of Murphy should be a crucifixion.
必须要令人毛骨悚然
This has to be horrifying,
所以必须极其暴♥力♥
so it had to be extremely violent.
我觉得效果很好
I think it works very well.
然后他慢慢出现电子动作
Then slowly, you get these electronic movements
开始获得意识
and you start to recognize things,
而这就是复活
and that is the resurrection.
我看到了故事中的美
I can see the beauty of that story
想把它融入电影之中
and I wanted to impose that on the movie.
所以自然而然地想到了
And basically it came to me, the idea,
他应该在水上行走
that he should walk over the water.
这就是我对机械战警的一贯看法
And that's what I always felt about RoboCop,
他就是美国的耶稣
that he was the American Jesus.
《机械战警》是一部政♥治♥讽刺作品
"RoboCop" Is a political satire,
将它拍成对耶稣基♥督♥的讽喻
and the realization that this is an allegory for Jesus Christ
亚当·卢瑟福
科学记者
BBC第四频道
说明我们在对牺牲一切拯救我们的
just shows that we really attach cultural significance
救世主形象赋予文化意义
to the idea of saviors who sacrifice everything to help us.
科幻作品向我们展示了
Science fiction shows us
绝对反乌托邦的恐怖未来
an absolutely dystopian and horrific future,
但我们在故事的主角身上
but we find a beacon of hope
找到了希望的灯塔
from the heroes of the story.
《疯狂的麦克斯2 公路勇士》
想离开这里吗
You wanna get out of here?
那就和我谈
You talk to me.
《疯狂的麦克斯》不情愿的非英雄主角
Mad Max, the reluctant antihero.
《疯狂的麦克斯》感觉就像你听到一支乐曲
"Mad Max" Was like, you hear a piece of music,
基努·里维斯
演员
然后说 "天呐我怎么没有早点听到"
and you're like, "Oh, my God. Where has that been?!"
导演乔治·米勒
Director George Miller,
从小在澳大利亚长大
he was a kid who grew up in Australia.
十几岁的时候
And when he was a teenager,
《疯狂的麦克斯》
他目睹了很多朋友死于车祸
he saw a lot of his friends die in car crashes.
后来他当医生的时候见到了很多
And then when he was a doctor, he saw lots of corpses
在车轮下支离破碎的尸体
come in that had been mangled from roads.
因此当乔治·米勒成为电影工作者时
So when George Miller becomes a filmmaker,
讲述这样一个在公路上发生的
this idea of telling life and death stories
生死故事的想法对他来说非常自然
set on roads feels very natural to him.
在他的第一部电影中
In the very first movie,
人类社会处在几近崩溃的边缘
society is kind of on the verge of collapsing.
麦克斯是一名警♥察♥ 在影片的发展过程中
And Max, he was a cop, goes sort of insane
马特·辛格
总编电影评论家
打破银幕
他逐渐走向疯狂
over the course of the film,
试图制止罪犯
trying to stop criminals...
最终却失去了自己的家人
...and eventually losing his family.
接着在第二部电影《公路勇士》中
And then the second movie, "Road Warrior,"
《公路勇士》
电影背景是一场未经说明的核战争
there has been this unexplained nuclear war
那时天然气供应极其匮乏
and that now gas supplies are incredibly scarce,
而这些都不及这一片后启示录式的荒原
and that has given way to this post-apocalyptic wasteland
麦克斯就在漂泊在这片荒原里
that Max is now wandering through.
疯狂的麦克斯有可能挽救这个情形
Mad Max might save the situation,
但他自己却会变得越来越糟糕
but he world itself just keep getting worse
越来越糟糕
and worse and worse.
某些电影是能够影响人类文化的
There are certain films that the culture pivots around,
布伦丹·麦卡锡
编剧
《疯狂的麦克斯狂暴之路》
《公路勇士》就是这样一部电影
and "Road Warrior" was one of them.
正如科幻故事作家J·G·巴拉德所说
As the science fiction writer J.G. Ballard said,
"它是朋克文化中的西斯廷礼拜堂"
"It's the Sistine Chapel of punk."
你你可以逃跑但你没法躲避
You! You can run, but you can't hide.
《判官爵德》
布伦丹·麦卡锡
我是一位连环漫画家
I'm a comic book artist.
我写作我绘画
I write and I draw,
判官
市民们放下抢劫品
接受审判吧
我一直以来都习惯于创作文字和图画
and I'm used to words and pictures all the time.
所以当我接到乔治·米勒的电♥话♥ 听他说
So when I got a call from George Miller saying,
"关于《疯狂的麦克斯》我有一些东西
"I've got some stuff on Mad Max
想要和你谈一下" 我就说 "好啊"
I'd like to talk to you about," I said, "Yeah."
《疯狂的麦克斯狂暴之路》
在《疯狂的麦克斯》第四部《狂暴之路》中
In the fourth Mad Max, "Fury Road,"
我们必须要设计好电影中的每一个细节
we had to plot every single thing on that movie,
我们为这些细节画了将近四千张图
and we did it through nearly 4,000 drawings.
我觉得我们真的同时改变了英雄神话
And I think we really changed the hero myth as well.
在《狂暴之路》中疯狂的麦克斯更多的
In "Fury Road," Mad Max, he's much more a product
是一个创伤后应激障碍患者
of sort of a post-traumatic stress disorder,
活下去成了全部活着的意义
and there's nothing to live for except to live.
在沙漠中在他那辆破旧的车子里
20 years out in the Outback
独自生活了二十年
on his own in his beat-up old car.
所以这个家伙就像一只凶猛的野兽
So this guy is like a feral animal.
他被当做一辆改装车上的引擎盖标志
He's placed as a hood ornament on a hot rod.
他被用作血库
He's used as a blood bank.
那是我的财产
That's my property!
因为在《狂暴之路》中商品不是石油
Because in "Fury Road," the commodity is not oil.
而是人类的身体
It's actually the human body itself.
非常欢迎你加入我们
You're more than welcome to come with us.
我会我会自寻出路的
I'll -- I'll make my own way.
我觉得你在观看《疯狂的麦克斯》系列时
I feel like when you watch the Mad Max films,
在第一部之后的电影中他甚至不把自己
after the first one, he doesn't even see himself
当做可以成为英雄的人物
as somebody who could be a hero.
这里不是他的世界
It's not his world.
所以像费罗莎这样的女性
So it's up to women like Furiosa
便承担起了真正改进世界的任务
to do the work of actually making it a better place.
他们在寻找希望