詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E06

Part 2 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

不是为了让故事吸引观众
not just for the audience to be caught up with the story,
而是因为他要说
but because he's gotta say --
"我必须这么做因为这件事如果发生了
"I've got to do this because of this because if that happens,
就会发生像这样的事情"
then you've got this going!"
马蒂无论发生什么
Marty, whatever happens,
你不能让其他的自己看到你
you must not let your other self see you.
那样结果会很糟糕
The consequences could be disastrous.
不好意思先生
Excuse me, sir?
他非常恐惧只要有一个判断失误
He's in total terror that one mistake of judgment
整个宇宙就瓦解了
and the whole cosmos could collapse.
阿诺德·施瓦辛格
演员
这是每一个作家在时间旅行的故事里
This is the thing that every writer always struggles with
总是在纠结的事
in time travel stories.
如果你回到过去在那里
If you go back in time and something that you do
做了某些事
when you're back there,
造成了你祖父的死亡
causes the death of your grandfather
当时他还没有让你祖母怀孕
before he has impregnated your grandmother,
你因此不再存在
and you therefore cease to exist.
但是如果你不存在
But if you cease to exist,
那你一开始
then you weren't around
就不会进入时间机器
to get in the time machine in the first place
然后回到过去做那样的事
and to go back in time and do that.
所以发生了什么
So what happens?
他们管它叫祖父悖论
They call it the grandfather paradox.
记住了按照我的理论
Now remember, according to my theory
你干涉了你父母的第一次见面
you interfered with your parents first meeting.
如果他们不见面他们就不会相爱
If they don't meet they won't fall in love,
他们不会结婚也就不会有孩子
they won't get married, and they won't have kids.
《回到未来》很明确地摆出了它的规则
"Back To The Future" Laid out its rules so clearly,
它实际上教给了电影观众
it effectively taught the movie audience
你改变了过去的时候就会发生这种事
this is what happens when you change the past,
这就是另一条时间线可能的样子
this is what an alternate timeline might look like.
还有一些可怕的问题比如
There are also kind of creepy questions like
你妈妈在青少年的时候爱上了你怎么办
what happens when your mom falls in love with you as a teenager...
安娜李·纽威茨
高级科技文化编辑
科技之美
最令人印象深刻的是
The most memorable piece
马蒂将自己八十年代的照片
is Marty's photograph of himself from the '80s,
带到五十年代
which he carries around with him back into the '50s
并时常看看确信自己还在照片中
and keeps looking at it to make sure he's still in the picture.
被抹去存在
Erased from existence.
那张照片本身显然就十分矛盾
So the photograph itself is obviously incredibly paradoxical.
因为如果他的父母从未见面的话
Because why would his brother and sister be there
照片上怎么会有弟弟妹妹
if his parents had never met?
当初又为什么会有这样一张照片
And like, why would there even have been a photograph
诸如此类
in the first place?
但没有人会停下来想这些
But nobody ever stops to think about that,
因为我们已经制定好了这条规则
because we've set up this rule that says that
当马蒂从照片中消失时
when Marty disappears from this photo,
他也会慢慢消失
he's going to fade out of existence.
用完美的戏剧手法表现了
It's a perfect dramatization of the idea
从时间线上消除自己的概念
of erasing yourself from the timeline.
时间旅行电影某种程度上
Time travel movies sort of invent
约瑟夫·戈登-莱维特
演员
是创作最好故事的方法
whatever device will create the best story.
《回到未来》设了个陷阱
"Back To The Future" really set up a mousetrap
来建立起完美的悬念
to create the perfect kind of suspense.
*I'll be the vision of your happiness*
*Earth angel, earth angel*
*Please be mine*
时间旅行打开了各种各样的可能性
Time travel opens up a lot of possibilities.
你可以有另一种过去
So you can have an alternate history,
可以有另一种现实
you can have an alternate present.
乔治·麦佛莱被谋杀
使我们有机会改变现实中许多
It allows us to change a lot of different weird things
不同寻常的事
about our reality.
而且这种可能是无限的
And the possibilities are kind of limitless.
为什么我们许许多多的幻想
Why is so much of our fantasy, you know our,
在科幻作品中的想象
our imagination in science fiction genre
都是关于时间旅行的呢
taken up with this idea of time travel?
因为我们无法穿梭时间
Because we can't do it.
阿诺德·施瓦辛格
演员
我认为在荧屏上看到时间旅行
I think it is just wonderful to see it on the screen
并且幻想自己身在其中简直棒极了
and imagine ourselves being in that situation.
我会很希望能够穿梭时间
I would have loved to be able to time travel.
想象我回到过去并且说
I mean, imagine to go back and say,
"我不会拍《大力神在纽约》"
"I'm not going to do 'Hercules In New York.'"
我叫赫丘利
My name is Hercules.
《大力神在纽约》
赫丘利河秋梨关我鸟事把钱给我
Hercules, Schmercules. Give me the dough!
不会吧
I mean, it's like, unbelievable.
这就是你想回到过去做的事吗
That's the thing you want to go back and do?
不见见耶稣不把希♥特♥勒♥干掉
Not meet Jesus, not kill Hitler.
你回去只想搞定一部电影
You want to go back and fix that one movie.
它困扰着你
This haunts you.
回去干掉希♥特♥勒♥或者回到古罗马时代
To go to kill Hitler or to go and be back in the Roman days,
要是能穿梭时间就棒极了
it would be really interesting to be able to time travel.
但问题是
But the question is,
如果在时间上来回穿梭是可行的
if you can move back and forth in time,
我们还能有自♥由♥意愿吗
do we have free will?
因为《终结者》系列电影的核心就在于此
Because "The Terminator" movies are kind of about that.
就是自♥由♥意愿
They're about free will.
如果某人从未来回来
If somebody comes back from the future
来改变当时的情况
to change what happens down there,
那我们岂不都是时间线上的傀儡
then are we just all puppets of a time line?
我完全相信你会弄明白的
I have total faith in you that you will figure it out.
《终结者》
《终结者》中一个有意思的主题讲的是
There's an interesting theme in "The Terminator" about
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我们能不能改变过去
Can we change the past?
我们能不能改变未来
Can we change the future?
而你所看到的是未来回过头来毁灭过去
And what you see is the future coming back to destroy the past.
终结者从未来回来
The Terminator coming back to try to kill
试图杀死莎拉·康纳带回凯尔·瑞斯
Sarah Connor also brings back Kyle Reese...
也就是约翰·康纳的父亲
Who becomes the father to John Connor
同时又是人类领袖之父
and creates the leader of humanity.
时间机器是将终结者和
The time machine was a mechanism to put the Terminator
戴维·杰罗尔德
编剧
《星际旅行》《巴比伦五号♥》
战士迈克尔·比恩带回过去的途径
and also Michael Biehn, the soldier, into the past.
迈克尔·比恩
演员
《终结者》
那一角色是约翰·康纳从未来
That character was sent by John Connor in the future
派回过去
to go back in time
保护这个女孩不被终结者伤害的
to protect this girl from the Terminator.
他们抵达过去后展开了追逐
Once they're there, then you have this chase,
谁能营救莎拉·康纳还是她会被杀
who's gonna rescue Sarah Connor or is she gonna get killed?
科幻作品提出了疑问我们命运是已有定数
Science fiction is a great place to ask is our destiny fixed?
还是能够改变
Or can we change it?
我什么都没做啊
I didn't do anything.
你以后会做的
No, but you will.
问题在于我们是否被困在了一系列事件中
The question is are we locked into one series of events?
乔纳森▪诺兰
编剧
《星际穿越》
比如第一部电影结束的时候
Like, by the end of the first film,
你看到了他们一开始穿越到过去
you realize you're seeing the creation myth
想要阻止的创世神话
of the thing they've gone back to prevent in the first place.
《终结者2 审判日》
第二部电影揭开了这个可能性
The 2nd film opens up the possibility
并且莎拉·康纳直接与之对话
and Sarah Connor speaks to it directly.
也许那不是困住我们的世界
Maybe that's not the universe we're stuck in.
没有命运
也许未来尚未写就
Maybe the future isn't written.
莎拉把刀插在桌子上说道
Sarah sticks a knife in the table and says,
"世上没有命运只有我们创造命运"
"There's no fate but what we make for ourselves."
她被告知她可以改变未来