詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E03

Part 3 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

当时有一种观点认为
so there was a belief
世界是可以被理解的
that the world was understandable in a way
无需掺杂宗教或神话的神秘色彩
that didn't involve religious or mythological mysteries.
玛丽·雪莱去听了伽伐尼等科学家的讲座
Mary Shelley was visiting science lectures --
亚当·卢瑟福
科学新闻记者
BBC新闻纪实频道
想看看最新被发现的电
people like Galvani -- to see how newly discovered electricity
《玛丽·雪莱的弗兰肯斯坦》
是如何应用到日常生活中去的
was involved in living processes.
《弗兰肯斯坦》的故事
The story of "Frankenstein,"
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玛丽·雪莱
讲的是一个自大的科学家
it's really about a scientist who has the arrogance to think
西德尼·珀喀维兹
物理学家科学作者
《好莱坞科幻电影科学与世界末日》
认为可以凭借自己的本事创造一个生物
that he alone can create a living being.
这种用其他人的各种部分
This idea of being able to create a human being
彼得·卡帕尔蒂
演员
来拼凑出一个新的人体的想法
from bits and pieces of other human beings --
是那么有力
it's so potent,
它受到了许多电影的效仿
and it is echoed all over the movies,
但那正是它真正成形之时
but that's when it really is crystallized.
在1910年托马斯·爱迪生的
In the first film version,
《弗兰肯斯坦》
第一部电影版《弗兰肯斯坦》中
Thomas Edison's 1910 "Frankenstein,"
生物并不是由电创造而成
the creature is made not through electricity,
而是通过化学过程
but through a chemical process.
托马斯·爱迪生被认为是电力之父
Thomas Edison was considered the father of electricity,
所以他不想让电有任何负面的含义
so he didn't want electricity to have any negative connotations.
在五十年代和六十年代
In the '50s and '60s,
《科学怪人对地底怪兽》
维克多·弗兰肯斯坦通过核能创造了他的生物
Victor Frankenstein creates his creature through atomic energy.
在二十世纪九十年代肯尼思·布拉纳的版本里
In Kenneth Branagh's 1990s version,
《玛丽·雪莱的弗兰肯斯坦》
我们看到这个生物自己
we have lots of images of the creature itself
在试管间穿梭的画面
shooting from one tube to another tube
最终在一个潮湿杂乱的场景中
until it's finally taken out of the final tube
被弗兰肯斯坦从最后一根试管中取出
by Frankenstein in a very wet and messy birthing scene.
可以说他创造了第一个试管婴儿
And so, literally, he's created the first test-tube baby.
《弗兰肯斯坦》
在著名的1931年的电影中
In the famous 1931 film,
弗兰肯斯坦博士的轮床上有一具死尸
Dr. Frankenstein has a dead body on a gurney,
而后死尸的身体开始抽动
and then the body twitches.
那时弗兰肯斯坦博士
At that point, Dr. Frankenstein
陷入了极度兴奋...
falls in somewhere between hysterical...
他活了
He's alive!
与得意之中
...and triumphant.
在某种程度上这结合了
In a way, this sums up all the fears
创造人工合成体的所有恐惧和希望
and all the hopes you would have about making synthetic life,
创造它所带来的惊叹
how awestruck we should be that we could do it,
创造它所带来的恐惧
and how scared we should be that we could do it.
现在我知道成为上帝是什么感觉了
Now I know what it feels like to be God!
当然《弗兰肯斯坦》的问题在于
The problem of "Frankenstein," of course, is that,
《玛丽·雪莱的弗兰肯斯坦》
当维克多·弗兰肯斯坦创造了如此丑恶的东西
when Victor Frankenstein creates something that's ugly,
他把它扔出了实验室
he throws it out of his laboratory,
使这生物转变成了怪物
and this transforms the creature into a monster
最后杀死了那些他最爱的人们
who will eventually kill those people he loves most.
这本书的副标题是《现代普罗米修斯》
The subtitle of the book is "The Modern Prometheus",
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或《现代普罗米修斯》
借喻了普罗米修斯
which had to deal with the myth of Prometheus
从上帝那里偷走火种带到人间的神话
stealing fire from the gods and bringing it down to Earth,
违反了自然规律
which was a violation of the natural order.
这个生物意识到
The creature realizes
他正是违反自然规律的产物
that he is that violation of the natural order.
你有没有想过你这么做的结果
Did you ever consider the consequences of your actions?
这个生物不断提问他为什么出现
This is a creature who asks why he is here.
他有什么目的
What is he for?
谁创造了他
Who created him?
谁造成了这一切
Who made this happen?
这些吸引人的问题
Those are fascinating questions,
是由弗兰肯斯坦的怪物提出的
and those questions begin with the Frankenstein monster.
所以只要人们想到这一点
So as long as people are thinking about that,
马特·辛格
总编辑电影评论家
打破银幕
人们就会拍《弗兰肯斯坦》式的电影
people will be making "Frankenstein" Movies
或者显然是基于《弗兰肯斯坦》的电影
or movies that are very obviously based on "Frankenstein."
我在研究一种会改变世界
I'm working on something that'll change the world
《变蝇人》
和人类的东西
and human life as we know it.
不知怎么我觉得你并没有什么研究成果
Somehow, I get the feeling you don't get out much.
布莱尔·戴维斯
教授作家
《二十世纪五十年代的好莱坞
与低预算电影的重生》
《变蝇人》是《弗兰肯斯坦》故事的升级
"The Fly" is really an updating of the "Frankenstein" Myth,
试着用新科技来扮演上帝的角色
of trying to play God with new technologies
传达了科学至上
and the idea that scientific hubris
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最终带来毁灭的主旨
can ultimately lead to destruction.
我发明了一台传送装置
So I invent this teleportation device,
在自己身上做实验
and I experiment on myself,
杰夫·高布伦
演员
《变蝇人》
但我不知道的是
but, unbeknownst to me,
传送舱里有一只苍蝇
there's a fly in the pod.
观众看到了它
The audience sees it,
但我没有看到
but I don't see it...
接着我果然从另一端出来了
...and then I, sure enough, I come out of the other thing.
一开始我看起来没什么问题
I seem to come out okay at first,
-但一点一点的 -这是什么
- but, by and by... - What's this?
观众意识到我的DNA中混入了
...you realize that my DNA has been fused
那只苍蝇的DNA
with the the fly's DNA.
观众不会看到《绿巨人》中的
You don't see an instant transformation as you do in,
那种即刻变形
say, "The Hulk."
《变蝇人》中看到的是一种对这种情况下
What you see in "The Fly" Is a far more realistic portrayal
可能出现的情景更现实的刻画
of what is likely to happen in that situation,
在他慢慢变成一种恶心的
which is a slow and disgusting breakdown of cells
两种截然不同物种的混合体过程中
to the point where, basically, he's falling apart
细胞缓慢地令人作呕地分解到
as he is slowly mutating into a revolting hybrid
支离破碎的地步
of these two distantly related species.
我变成了蝇人布朗多
I'm becoming Brundlefly.
我记得有五个阶段的妆容
So I remember five different stages of makeup.
我得在凌晨两三点到
I'd have to get there at 3:00 in the morning
片场
or 2:00 in the morning
因为我要装假肢
because I had some prosthetics, you know?
而且我还有奇怪的牙
And I had funny teeth, too.
我有几种不同形态的牙
I had a few different stages of teeth.
我觉得很刺♥激♥
I got a kick out of it.
这些影片提出的问题是
What these movies grapple with is that question of,
"我们做了不该做的事情会怎样呢"
"What happens when we do something we shouldn't?"
"这么做的后果是什么"
and, "What are the ramifications of that?"
以及"副作用是什么"
and, "What is the fallout?"
这些影片探讨了这些问题
And these movies are about that.
副作用是
The fallout is...
怪物
...monsters.
对我来说我认为科幻怪兽片的
To me, when I see a science-fiction monster movie,
吉尔莫·德尔·托罗
导演制片人
关键是唤起我们的恐惧和幻想
it's about taking our angst and our fantasies
以及从一场安全的
and our terrors and making an escape...
噩梦中逃离
...a nightmare that's safe.
因为当你凌晨三点独自一人
'Cause when you're left alone with your nightmare
做噩梦时
at 3:00 in the morning,
你并不安全
you're not safe,
但你走进一家电影院
but when you go into a movie theater...
你是安全的你周围都是人
...you're safe. There's people around you.
你知道影片只会持续
And you know it's going to last
一段特定的时间
a certain number of minutes.
这是确定的事情
That's right. It's a defined thing.