詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E03

Part 4 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

并且问题总会解决
And things are going to get resolved.
除了《异形》
Except for "Alien."
我在七九年看了它的首映
I saw it on opening night, in '79
当异形在一个大影院里出现时
when it came out, in a big theater,
人们尖叫到
and, man, people were screaming so hard
丢掉爆米花的程度
they were throwing their popcorn.
我也是有句俗话说
Me, too. I mean, there's that figure of speech --
"吓得躲到椅子下面"
"Hide under your seat."
那时这都不是修辞手法
It was not a figure of speech.
我真的钻到椅子下面了
I literally went under my seat,
然后对我爸爸说
and I said to my dad,
"电影结束了拍拍我的肩膀"
"Tap me on the shoulder when it's over."
《异形》
来自《异形》和《异形2》的异形
The Xenomorph from "Alien" And "Aliens"
艾略特·卡兰
总编剧
《神秘科学影院3000》
是有史以来最棒的影视怪兽
is the best movie monster ever
因为它是史上最吓人的外星怪兽
because it is the scariest alien monster ever.
保罗·W·S·安德森
导演
《异形大战铁血战士》
我认为异形吓人之处
I think what is terrifying about the Xenomorph
在于它没怎么出现在荧幕上
is it was barely on-screen.
画面非常昏暗夹杂大量闪光
It was very underlit, lots of flashing lights,
我认为第一部《异形》影片
and I think that's very much the power
作为惊悚片最强大之处就是
of the first "Alien" Movie, as a scary movie,
留下了大量想象空间
is it left a lot to the imagination.
它是经典的怪兽影片
It's, like, the classic monster movie,
并且更重要的是它是第一部
and on top of it, you know, it was the first woman heroine
罗兰·艾默里奇
导演制片人
在大荧幕上出现的女性主角的影片
which we have seen in a major motion picture.
-你在吗雷普利 -我就在这里
- You there, Ripley? - I'm right here.
我收到了《异形》的剧本
I was sent the script of "Alien,"
西格妮·韦弗
演员
《异形》系列
坦白说
and I think, frankly,
商业上来说他们觉得
commercially speaking, they thought,
"让我们把主角设定成女人
"Let's make the hero a woman.
没人会猜到这个年轻女人
No one will ever guess that this young woman
会是唯一的幸存者"
turns out to be the lone survivor."
我喜欢这种纯粹
And I like the purity of that.
我们没明确说过
We weren't making any kind of statement,
这部影片吸引我的另一个原因当然是
and I think the other reason, of course, it appealed to me
这是个出色的女性角色
was that it was a rockin' good part for a woman.
我现在要杀了那东西
I'm for killing that damn thing right now.
让我们谈谈怎么杀它
Well, let's talk about killing it.
我们知道它在用通风井
We know it's using the air shafts.
你能听我说话吗帕克
Will you listen to me, Parker?!
-别再说... -闭嘴
- Stop talking... - Shut up!
那么是什么促使你选择雷普利
So what possessed you to take Ripley,
这个只有姓没有名的角色
who wasn't given a first name,
没有一个角色有名字
none of them had first names...
并且还将她设定成为女性的
...and say, "Let's make her a woman"?
我当时还没有意识到
You know, I hadn't realized
雷德利·斯科特
导演制片人
女性解放的重要性
the importance of women's lib
以及女性的参与度有多么低
and how women aren't really included
因为我自己的母亲就非常坚强
because I was brought up with a very strong mother.
所以我早就接受了女性无论如何
So I had already accepted that women will rule
最终都会手握大权这件事
eventually anyway, whatever we do.
所以你并不是在表态
So you weren't making a statement.
你只是观察了你所认知的
You were just observing the world
-这个世界... -为什么不呢
- that you knew... - I said, "Why not?"
让雷普利去战斗去主导
To give Ripley the punch and power...
这是对的事
...was the right thing to do.
科幻片从来都是突破边界的
Yeah, and science fiction has always been a genre
那一类作品
that pushed boundaries...
性别也好从众也好种族主义也好
...of gender, conformity, racism.
这个舞台上一切皆有可能
It's a stage where anything goes.
她的角色需要面对恐惧
Her character is about facing her fears,
在经过了一系列的电影后
and, over the course of a number of films,
她成为了
she became a, you know,
女权运动的世界偶像
kind of a global icon for feminism.
维罗尼卡·卡维
演员
《异形》
这真的是第一部
It really was the first movie
女性不再是受害者的电影
where you had a woman that wasn't the victim,
这一点很了不起
and that was major.
许多年来在科幻电影中
For years, it was a man's job
丽莎·亚斯泽克
科幻研究教授
佐治亚理工学院
杀死怪兽一直都是男人的事
to slay the monsters in science fiction.
《我嫁给了外太空怪物》
女性最好的结果是被送回家以确保安全
The women, at best, where either sent home so they'd be safe...
《黑湖妖谭》
待在这儿凯
Stay here, Kay.
或者只能在怪物手中等待救援
...or they had to get rescued from the monsters,
《金刚》
甚至更糟她们自己就是怪物
or, even worse yet, they themselves were the monster.
她会毁了整个小镇直到找到哈利
She'll tear up the whole town until she finds Harry.
《绝地五十尺女巨人》
然后她会撕碎哈利
Yeah, and then she'll tear up Harry.
亚什达拉斯和凯恩不在船上时
Ash, when Dallas and Kane are off the ship,
我就是最高长官
I'm senior officer.
雷德利·斯科特在塑造雷普利方面非常成功
Ridley Scott did such an amazing job in portraying
他将雷普利塑造成一个正直坦率的人
Ripley as a straightforward human,
然后卡梅伦用《异形》将这一形象带上了
and then Jim Cameron took it to a whole new level
全新的高度
with "Aliens,"
设定了雷普利和纽特的关系
setting up the relationship of Ripley and Newt...
《异形》
很难相信在这一切背后是个小姑娘
Hard to believe there's a little girl under all this.
然后将她们二人的关系
...and then paralleling it
与异形皇后和她后代的关系相比较
with the queen and her offspring.
异形皇后具有天然的
The Queen Alien has sort of organic,
流畅的线条因为她是雌性
flowing lines to her because she's feminine.
她很丑陋但也非常美丽
She's hideous, but she's also very beautiful,
亚厉克·吉利斯
生物特效设计师
《异形》系列
这才配得上一位外星社会中
which is fitting of an elegant,
尊贵优雅的女家长的形象
you know, matriarch of an alien society.
所以当我杀了她的孩子
So by the time I kill her children...
并试图带着我的孩子逃跑时
...and try to escape with mine...
抓紧我
Grab onto me!
这并不是正邪之间的较量
...it's not like bad versus good.
而是两位母亲为她们后代的生命而战
It's two mothers fighting for the life of their offspring,
这场战斗中两个物种都受到尊重
and I think it's done with, you know, respect for both species.
幸运的是他把优势给了雷普利
Happily, he gives Ripley the edge.
离她远点你个贱♥人♥
Get away from her, you bitch!
我第一次看《异形》时是十二岁
I watched "Aliens" For the first time when I was 12,
米拉·乔沃维奇
演员
《生化危机》系列
我之前从没想过女人能做到
and I had never realized that women could do
西格尼·韦弗在荧屏上做的那种事
the kind of things that Sigourney Weaver was doing on- screen,
或是有那样的眼光和谈吐
or look that way or talk that way.
整部电影让我大开眼界
The whole thing just blew my mind.
她身上有一种原始的力量
There was this primal power that she had...
来呀
Come on!
是基于求生以及救下孩子的
...based on just this desperate need to survive
迫切需求
and save this child.
我觉得这成为了这一女性主角的原型
And I think that becomes that archetype of that female hero.
我觉得观众会喜欢看到女人成功并杀掉怪兽的
I think an audience likes to see women succeed and slay monsters.
如果这条路行不通那也就没有这么多
There wouldn't be as many franchises of the "Alien" Movie
《异形》系列的电影了
if it didn't work.
《异形3》
当《异形》系列中西格尼·韦弗塑造的
When the original Sigourney Weaver Ripley arch
《异形4 浴火重生》
雷普利形象走到终点时
of the "Aliens" Franchise ends,
一个全新的超级女性怪物杀手登场了
we get a brand-new awesome female monster-killer
埃米·尼科尔森