詹姆斯·卡梅隆的科幻故事（2018）

James Cameron's Story of Science Fiction S01E03

Part 5 May 10, 2021, 12:06 p.m.

电影评论家主持人
佳能秀
《生化危机》中的爱丽丝
Alice, in "Resident Evil."
《生化危机》
《生化危机》出现的时候我非常激动
When "Resident Evil" Came up, I was just really excited.
我特别喜欢这个电子游戏
I was a huge fan of the video game.
《生化危机》电子游戏
我认为电子游戏
Video games, you know,
正迎合了一些人类的内在天性
I think it answers something very elemental in human beings,
我们着迷于游戏中危险的情节
which is we're fascinated with dangerous situations,
既可以无限接近危险
and the closest we could get to them
又不必身处其中我们热爱这种体验
without actually being in danger, you know, we love.
《生化危机》宇宙的主题就是"科学怪人"
The "Resident Evil" Universe is all about "Frankenstein."
安布雷拉公♥司♥利用科技
I mean, the Umbrella Corporation is using their technology
创造的东西
to create these things
很容易失去控制
that could very well go out of control.
《生化危机2 启示录》
T病毒表现为基因突变
T-virus manifesting itself in genetic mutation.
不出所料它们确实失控了
And surprise, surprise -- they do!
使爱丽丝成为一个强大角色的关键之一
One of the things that makes Alice a strong character
保罗·W·S·安德森
编剧制♥作♥人
《生化危机》系列
就是她在对抗我们眼中
is she fights what people might believe
无法战胜的敌人
is, like, unbeatable odds...
《生化危机3 灭绝》
但她从不放弃
...but she doesn't give up,
最终经过六部电影她获胜了
and, ultimately, over six movies, she triumphs.
《生化危机4 战神再生》
我认为怪物讲述了关于我们自身的一切
I think monsters tell us everything about ourselves.
《生化危机5 惩罚》
从某种意义上来说我们最畏惧的事物
I think the things that we're the most scared of
塑造了我们的人格
makes us who we are, in a way.
《生化危机6 终章》
怪物在很多方面代表着我们的恐惧
Monsters, in a lot of ways, are representing our fears.
我们会不会太过火
Are we gonna go too far?
我们对这个世界还需要了解什么
What do we still need to learn about this world?
我们还没准备好面对什么
What are we not prepared for?
《星球大战VI 绝地归来》
所以看到一个女人
Which is why, I think, it's so powerful
《怪奇物语》
或者男人杀死他所面对的怪物
and cathartic to see a woman slay her monster --
特别是看到
and men, too --
一个女性形象直面恐惧
but to see that figure of a woman
《宿主》
而且征服恐惧是那么强大而畅快
literally staring down her fear and conquering it...
我们通常觉得科幻类型
We often think about science fiction
赞美的是小男孩和他们的玩具
as a genre that celebrates boys and their toys,
但正因为我们讨论的是科幻
and yet there is a space for people of all different races
所以任何种族性别教派和肤色的人
and genders and creeds and colors --
甚至不同物种的人
and perhaps even species,
都有机会
since we're being science fictional --
探索并交流关于高科技社会中
to explore their hopes and fears and convey them to others
生活的希望与恐惧
about life in a high-tech society.
最佳的科幻作品会质疑
Science fiction, at its best, questions,
以及挑战我们的信仰我们是什么
challenges our belief in, what are we...
是什么使我们成为人类
...and what makes us human?
吉列尔莫·德尔托罗
导演制♥作♥人
我们在社会中扮演什么角色
Where do we fit in society?
什么会让我们动摇或让我们害怕
And what shakes us, or tries to shake us up.
怪物超越了自然
So monsters are above nature --
是超人的非凡的
superhuman or suprahuman.
它们让我们去质疑
They allow us to question things
显然具有人类特征的事物
that are eminently human.
你不觉得《怪形》这部电影
Right. Now, don't you think that the film "The Thing"
也遵循着同样的原则吗
follows that same principle
让我们畏惧外形与人类相同的其他物种
of making us fear the other in human form?
没错这就是约翰·卡朋特的
Absolutely, and that's the point of the story
这部影片中令我一直都着迷的地方
that I always am fascinated in the Carpenter film...
因为归根结底
...because, ultimately,
这正是宇宙中存在的问题
it's a matter of place in the universe,
正因如此这个故事才这么重要
and that's what makes that story so important.
《怪形》
这个营地中有人不是表面上的样子
Somebody in this camp ain't what he appears to be.
可能现在我们中间有一两个
Right now, that may be one or two of us.
到明年春天可能所有人都变了
By spring, it could be all of us.
那我们怎么知道谁是人呢
So how do we know who's human?
《怪形》这部电影在科幻界很有影响力
"The Thing" Is an incredibly influential movie in science fiction
丽莎·亚斯泽克
科幻研究教授
佐治亚理工学院
因为它抓住了我们最根本的恐惧之一
because it gets at one of our most basic fears --
也就是我们可能无法区分
that we might not be able to tell the difference
善恶或者分辨我们自己
between good and evil, or between ourselves
与邪恶的外星顶替者
and an evil alien impostor.
这部影片讲述了一群科学家
The film follows the story of a group of scientists
在南极洲
in the Antarctic
找到了一个冰冻的外星人
who find a frozen alien.
这是什么
What is it?
外星人解冻之后他们发现
When the alien thaws, it turns out to be
它非常有敌意有变形能力
an incredibly hostile, shape-shifting organism
唯一的目的就是吞噬我们
that wants nothing more than to absorb us
并且征服世界
and conquer the world.
它吞噬人之后谁是真正的人
As it absorbs people, it becomes unclear who is real
而谁又变成怪物就已经分不清楚了
and who has become the monster.
我们要从每个人身上抽取一点血样
We're gonna draw a little bit of everybody's blood,
然后我们要找到谁是怪形
and we're gonna find out who's The Thing.
先创造出一个怪物的故事
You've got a monster story,
然后我们通过做实验
and we're going to solve the monster story
加里·K·乌尔夫
作家
《伟大的科幻小说作品是怎样炼成的》
来终结这个怪物故事
by doing experiments.
这就是经典的科幻小说
That is classic science fiction.
你们中那个怪形的血液
The blood from one of you Things
在受到攻击时不会顺从的
won't obey when its attacked.
它会反抗并想活下来...
It'll try and survive...
比如从一根灼热的针上爬下来
...crawl away from a hot needle, say.
亚当·卢瑟福
科学记者
BBC第四频道
《怪形》中血液测试的一幕
The blood-testing scene in the "The Thing"
我认为是所有电影中最伟大的情节之一
is one of the great scenes in, I think, in all movies.
诺尔斯
所有的主角都被绑起来了
All the protagonists are tied up.
他们中至少有一位是那个怪物
At least one of them is actually the monster itself,
看着库尔特·拉塞尔测试血样的一幕...
and watching Kurt Russell testing the blood...
奥珀
那种紧张感简直无法想象
...where the tension is just unbelievable.
这完全没道理
This is pure nonsense.
什么也证明不了
It doesn't prove a thing.
我们最后测试你的血液
We'll do you last.
当怪形发出一声尖叫的时候...
When that thing screeches up...
你能理解的...
...you know...
基思·戴维
演员
《怪形》
...光这一幕就值回整个票价了
...that was worth the price of admission.
《怪形》中的那个怪物
The Thing in "The Thing," --
我认为它在某种程度上是
in some ways, it's one of, I think, the, like, apexes of
马特·辛格
总编电影评论家
打破银幕
那种老式模拟怪物的顶峰
that kind of old-school, analog monster.
就好像电影中的那些
Like, it was actually there on the set
触手和牙齿是真实的一样
with the tentacles and the teeth.
这可是前CGI[电脑成像]影片
I mean, this is pre-CGI.
我们做出了这样的东西
Guys were doing this kind of stuff.
但是《怪形》中的终极威胁
But the ultimate threat here in "The Thing"
并不是怪物本身
isn't even the monster itself.
而是怪形所引发的东西
It is what The Thing evokes --
那种吞噬掉整个研究站的多疑和恐惧
the paranoia and terror that engulfs that station.
它不是本宁斯
It isn't Bennings.
《怪形》
《怪形》改编自名为《有谁去那里》的故事
"The Thing" was based on a story, "Who Goes There?"
《有谁去那里》
其作者是科幻小说历史中
by the most influential magazine editor,
最有影响力的杂♥志♥编辑