移民国度（2020）

You can't walk a little bit?
‎不能 一点吧
Nothing, a little bit.
‎从我所听到的消息猜 ‎这些人是来自瓦哈卡州和恰帕斯州
These dudes are from Oaxaca and Chiapas is what I've heard so far.
‎里边境超远的
Super far from the border.
‎如果我和这些人谈谈话 ‎明白他们的个人故事后
If I were to talk to these guys and get every detail of their story,
‎我很确定 若我能做主的话
I'm sure that, if it were up to me,
‎我会说：“你的人挺不错的 ‎你就留下来吧 老兄”
I would say, "You know what, man? You can just stay, dude. You seem cool."
‎但不是由我作主
But it's not up to me.
‎感觉不好受 ‎但这一行就是这样
And you know, you feel bad, so it's the nature of the beast. Just give me a couple at a time.
‎他们会失去一组人
They might lose a load,
‎但对他们而言 这只是做生意的成本
but to them, it's just the cost of doing business.
‎我们抓到一个 他们会带进去五个
They'll get five across to their one that we get.
‎这是一场猫捉老鼠的游戏 ‎他们也很厉害玩呢
It's all a cat and mouse game, and they're good at it.
‎虽然他们想阻止这一切 ‎这目前是不可能的
They may want to stop this, but right now, it won't happen.
‎我们总是会找办法把人带进美国的
We always find a way to get people into the United States.
‎无论他们怎么做 这都不会停止的
Whatever they do, this is not going to stop.
‎就算他们建立一堵二十米高的墙
And even if they make a 20-meter-high wall...
‎我们都还能工作的
...we will always be able to work.
‎我们总是落在他们后边
We're always behind the curve.
‎我们会需要一段时间 ‎明白他们的新技巧
You know, it takes us a while to catch on their new techniques.
‎他们也有很好的情报网呢
They have a very good intel network, too.
‎他们有些...
They have guys that
‎唯一工作就是坐在山顶上
their sole job is nothing but to sit on a mountain
‎带着一个墨西哥卷饼
with a burrito
‎一副双筒望远镜 一个两向收音机
and a pair of binoculars and a two-way radio,
‎看着边境巡逻的一举一动 ‎其他的什么都不做的人
and that's all they do. Watch comings and goings of the Border Patrol.
‎例如现在
Look, for example, right now,
‎这附近有差不多五个巡逻队吧
we have, like, five Immigration patrols around here.
‎即使我们必须走多五或十个小时
And even if we need to walk five to ten hours more,
‎我们还是会进去的
we will get in.
‎高速公路86 ‎英里标记117旁有一个十人组
They got a group of ten off 86 by mile marker 117.
‎收到
Roger that.
‎我们的工作是狩猎
You know, you're getting paid to go hunt,
‎没什么比狩猎人类更有挑战性了
and there's nothing more challenging than hunting the human species.
‎有时...
Just sometimes...
‎他们会比你聪明一点
they're just a little bit smarter than you sometimes.
‎但这样才好玩啊
They outsmart you, but hey, that's what makes it so fun.
‎事实上 ‎我们不能把移♥民♥局当敌人看待
We shouldn't regard Immigration officials as enemies.
‎他们和我们一样 有工作
They have a job, like us.
‎所以若他们让我们的工作更艰难 ‎我们也会相应对待
So, they make it harder for us to work... ...and we make it harder for them too.
‎我在这里和为黑♥手♥党♥的人过过边境 ‎他们被谋杀了
I crossed with guys here who worked for the mafia and were killed.
‎他们不在了 他们不见了
They are gone. They have disappeared.
‎他们闯了祸 接受命题 就玩完了
They get into trouble, accept propositions, and then it's over.
‎我被提议携带一个包裹
I got offered to carry a package.
‎我拒绝了
And I said no.
‎因为我觉得我的命比一万比索还珍贵
I think my life costs more than 10,000 pesos.
‎没那么便宜
It costs more than that.
‎我在这里居住五个月了
I've been staying here for five months.
‎就住在外边这里
I live here, outside.
‎凌晨四点我会去工作 采黄瓜
And I leave at 4 a.m. to work picking cucumbers.
‎我只想赚好我的八千或一万比索
I only want to get together my 8,000, 10,000
‎离开这里
and get out of here.
‎我努力地工作
I'm working hard,
‎等待轮到我的时候
waiting for my turn.
‎时候会来的 我不知道几时 ‎但它是会来的
It's gonna come. I don't know when, but it's gonna come.
‎或许吧...
Probably...
‎我想在圣诞节前到那里
I'm trying to be there before Christmas.
‎我想见我的孩子 我的两个女儿
I want to see my daughters. My two kids, my two daughters.
‎我不期待她们会叫我爸爸 或拥抱我
I'm not waiting for them to call me Dad or Daddy or give me a hug.
‎我只想从远处能看到她们
I just want to see 'em from far away.
‎我只想看看她们的面孔 ‎看她们长什么样子
I just want to see their faces, how they look like.
‎沙漠不是一场游戏
The desert isn't a game.
‎我在沙漠里迷路了两次
I got lost twice in the desert.
‎往天空看 感觉快晕倒了
I looked up and felt like I was passing out...
‎我就一直走着...
and I kept walking and walking...
‎嘴唇干裂...
with dry lips...
‎没有水
without water.
‎在太阳下没有水的情况 ‎走了两天
Walking two days without water in the sun.
‎移♥民♥局有许多 ‎能发现我们的高科技设备
Immigration has many high-tech devices to detect us.
‎感应器 红外线设备
Sensors, infrared.
‎他们有狗
They have dogs.
‎有摩托车
They have motorcycles.
‎有时候你因为跌倒了 ‎扭伤了脚不能走而快死了
There are times when you are dying because you fell, and you twisted your foot and can't walk,
‎他们也不在乎
and they don't care.
‎即使你无法走路 他们也会一直逼你
They keep pushing you to walk when you can't walk.
‎是个生死攸关的游戏
It's a game of life or death.
‎有个人走了超过35英里来到这一点
Somebody walked upwards of 35 miles to get to this particular point,
‎这是他们身上带着的东西之一
and this was one of the few things they were carrying with them
‎能维持生命的东西
that was sort of life-sustaining.
‎现在在这里了
And now, it's here.
‎黑色的水壶
A black water bottle.
‎这是只在墨西哥北部 ‎专门为移♥民♥制♥造♥的
These are only produced in northern Mexico, only for migrants,
‎让别人带进沙漠里的
for people to carry with them in the desert.
‎这个具有某种个人风格的东西
This, you know, has a kind of personal touch to it.
‎有人用了背包的一部分
Someone has taken part of a backpack
‎造了背带 所以他们能扛在肩上
and fashioned it into... a strap, so they can carry it on their shoulder.
‎从这些结里 你能看到别人
You can see them in these knots and the ingenuity
‎为了在这种恶劣环境生存下去
that people come up with to survive
‎而产生的创造力
in this really... incredibly difficult terrain.
‎我是以一个非常传统的考古学家
I began my career...
‎而开始我的事业的
...as a very traditional archaeologist.
‎奇怪的是
Strangely enough,
‎就像每一个重大的人类迁徙一样 ‎这留下了考古证据
like every great human migration, there's an archaeological fingerprint.
‎我挖得越投入
The more I have gotten into it,
‎局面变得越复杂
the more complicated the picture has become.
‎一部分的原因是因为这些尸体
Part of that came out of knowing that these bodies were coming
‎以不良状态进入法医府 ‎而别人会问起
into the medical examiner's office in bad shape and asking people to say,
‎“尸体腐烂需要多久的时间？
"Well, how long does it take for a body to deteriorate?
‎死在沙漠里的尸体 ‎看起来是怎么样的？”
What's it look like to die in a desert?"
‎我问了那些问题
I was asking those questions,
‎但没人能给我直接的答案
and nobody could give me a straight answer.
‎除了研究真正死在这种状况的尸体
Short of having a human body in this context,
‎我们还能用科学其他方式 ‎把这记录下来吗？
are there other ways that we can use science to document this?
‎法医学用猪代替人尸体
And forensic science has a very long history
‎其实是个历史悠久的做法
of using pigs as proxies for the human body.
‎所以我就想了：“他妈的！ ‎我们为什么不用猪来实验呢？”
So, I was like, "Well, shit! Why don't we just do this with pigs?"
‎你要我在它下面放点东西吗？
I mean, do you want me to find something to stick under it?
‎这样没问题
Um, that's kind of good like that.
‎我们用了这些动物 打扮好了 ‎给了他们私人物品
We took these animals, dressed them up, gave them personal effects.
‎安装了这些相机 就开始记录了
We set up these cameras, and we... we let 'em run.
‎我们感到了非常震惊
We were shocked, you know.
‎在某些情况下 完整的尸体
In some instances, you go from fully-fleshed
‎在36个小时内会被骨架化和脱节 ‎完全被分开
to skeletonized and disarticulated, completely ripped apart, in 36 hours.
‎疯了！哇靠！
That's nuts! Holy crap!
‎它们把袜子拿去了
They took off the sock.
‎天啊！
Christ!
‎别人消失的速度太惊人了
Just the speed at which folks were disappearing was really striking.
‎有些私人物品会完全地消失
You'd have personal effects that'd just completely disappear.
‎有些身体部位 ‎被分布去了数百英尺的距离外
You've got body parts that are spread over hundreds of feet,
‎使得我们无法调查别人发生了的情况
making it almost impossible to connect the dots.
‎那就是我们开始想
That was when we really started to think about,
‎“如果我们在亚利桑那州 ‎收回了三千多个尸体
"Well, if we've got 3,000-plus bodies in Arizona, that's just recovered.
‎这数目根本不代表所有死去的人”
Those numbers don't represent the total number of people who have died."
‎你看失踪人员报告也能支持那一点
And you can back that up by just looking at the number of missing persons reports.
‎有很多人死去了 ‎而尸体是收不回来的
There are a lot of folks out there who have died and will never be recovered.
‎他们就那样消失了
They're just gone.
‎（诺加利斯 亚利桑那州）
‎（建桥不建墙）
‎听到我说话吗？
Can you hear me?
‎墙是不能分开我们的
Walls cannot separate us.
‎我是来讨论我在亚利桑那沙漠
I have come to talk about my son Marco Antonio Ramirez,
‎（卡梅里纳）