移民国度（2020）

‎（ICE埃尔帕索处理中心 ‎埃尔帕索 德州）
‎好了 家伙们
All right, guys.
‎我们有94个人为内部遣反计划身份 ‎去奥特罗处理中心
We do have 94 bodies going to Otero as IRI candidates.
‎他们今早就会进来
They're coming in this morning.
‎我们有个从丹佛飞进来的孕妇
We are gonna get a pregnant female coming in on a flight from Denver,
‎她明天会通过北帕索遣送出去
and she'll be removed tomorrow via PDN to the Mexican consulate.
‎在外边注意安全
Just be safe out there, the bridge.
‎-让今天的工作顺利吧 大家 ‎-一 二 三 处理！
All right, let's have a good shift, guys. -One, two, three, processing!
‎-早上好 大家 ‎-早安
Morning, guys. -Morning.
‎绅士们 请坐！
Gentlemen, take a seat, please!
‎-你们都是墨西哥人吗？ ‎-是的
You are all Mexicans? -Yes!
‎你们这里大多数人都会今早被遣送
Most of you here will be deported this morning.
‎继续走！
Oh. Keep moving!
‎（美国墨西哥边境 ‎埃尔帕索 德州）
‎（山姆 ICE驱逐出境执行官）
‎谢谢你们合作 行为规矩
Thanks for behaving yourselves.
‎记住了 你们随时想回来
Remember we are here to receive you 24 hours a day
‎我们都会全天候等待接你们
whenever you would like to return. -Thank you.
‎但下次请你们合法地来吧
But do it legally, please.
‎用正确的方式做是最好的方法
Try to do it the right way. That's always the best way.
‎那样你就不用一直担心被抓
That way you don't have to keep on looking behind your back.
‎我在这里17年了
I was here for 17 years.
‎我三岁的时候我父母带我来的
My parents brought me here when I was three years old.
‎我在马里兰州被临时截停了
I got stopped in Maryland, simple traffic stop.
‎他们告知了移♥民♥局 而我没有证件
They called Immigration on me, and I didn't have my legal paperwork,
‎就被遣送了...
and I got deported after...
‎我在美国长大的 而从来没闯过祸
growing up in the United States and never getting in trouble once.
‎规矩不是我制定的 ‎我只负责执行规矩
I don't make the rules. I just enforce them and...
‎你经过了过程 然后...
You went through the process and--
‎我只是觉得很可笑 ‎因为你之前说了
I just think it's funny 'cause you said,
‎“通过正确的方式你就能进来”
"People do it the right way, you can come in."
‎-对啊 ‎-对吧？
Right. -Right?
‎那我做错了什么？
So what was my wrongdoing in that?
‎-没什么 ‎-对啊
There was no wrong. -Right.
‎你是你父母的受害者...
You're a victim of your parents...
‎试图想做对的事 但结果做得不对
trying to do good, and it didn't come out good.
‎其实呢 我居住在墨西哥了五年
I lived in Mexico for five years.
‎我2014被遣送过 但是...
I got deported in 2014, but...
‎你当时就该去要求去除遣送的特赦啊
That's when you could've gone and asked for a pardon on the removal.
‎他们告诉我我必须等十年 ‎才能要求特赦
They told me I had to wait ten years to ask for a pardon.
‎所以你是知道你有选择的 ‎你已经等了五年
So, you did know that you had an option. You already waited five years.
‎你能不见到你的家人十年吗？
Could you stay away from your family for ten years?
‎你已经等了五年了 ‎你能再等多五年的
You waited five years. You could've waited five more.
‎-是有希望的 ‎-回答我的问题吧 你行吗？
There was light at the end of the tunnel. -Answer my question. Could you?
‎我没经历过那种情况 ‎我不能告诉你
I've never been in that situation. I couldn't tell you whether yes or no.
‎好 你有在我的处境中你就会明白了
All right. I'd like to see you in my shoes right now.
‎你有为任何 ‎你送过桥的人感到抱歉吗？
You ever felt sorry for someone who you walked across the bridge?
‎坦白说 没有
Honestly, I can't say that. No. No.
‎从来没有？
Never?
‎没有
Nope.
‎相反地 它会让我想明白 ‎他们为什么会要这样做
On the contrary, it gets me to trying to understand why they do it.
‎我还没听过有人告诉我
I still haven't been able to have somebody tell me
‎他们明知道有合法的方式来做事
the logical reason why they did it the illegal way,
‎为何会逻辑性地选择非法进入
knowingly knowing that there's a legal way to do it.
‎祝你们好运 绅士们
Good luck, gentlemen.
‎很快再见
See you again soon.
‎祝你好运
Good luck.
‎试试正确的方法吧
Try to do it the right way.

‎-好的 家伙 ‎-注意安全
All right, man. -Stay safe.
‎注意安全 兄弟
Stay safe, brother.
‎（第五集：正确的方法）
‎他们该更清楚地解释 ‎他们说得正确方法到底是什么意思
What they should be clear about is what they mean by doing it the right way.
‎有合法的方法...
There's the lawful way...
‎还有这个...
and then there's this...
‎（约翰·亚玛亚 ‎ICE前副参谋长）
‎我都不知道怎么形容 ‎这个...无法形容
I don't even know how to describe it. This... undescribable phrase
‎正确方式的词汇
of doing it the right way.
‎不管它是什么意思
Whatever the hell that means.
‎因为任何明白庇护♥法♥的人
Because anyone who understands asylum law
‎都知道当某人在进口港出现
knows that when people present themselves at the port of entry
‎而要求庇护时
and request asylum...
‎那就是合法的方法
that is doing it the lawful way.
‎对白宫来说这可能不是正确的方式
Now it may not be the right way in this White House's view,
‎但我想知道他们说：“正确方式”时 ‎指的到底是什么
but I'd like to know what the hell they mean
‎因为这就是合法的方式
by "doing it the right way," because it's the lawful way.
‎当边境巡逻逮捕某人时 ‎他们通常直接就处理他们了
When Border Patrol apprehends somebody, that's when they process 'em.
‎里面大概满了 ‎所以他们才会建立这个
Uh, it's probably full in there. So that's why they have this set up...
‎为了给多余的人住
for the overflows.
‎想要跟上进来的人数
Trying to catch up with the numbers of people coming in.
‎我敢打赌这里大多数的人 ‎都是来要求庇护的
I'd be willing to bet most of them are seeking asylum.
‎所以一方面你有人进来
So you got... On one hand, you got people coming in.
‎另方面有别人离开回去
On the other hand, you have some going back.
‎是个圆圈
Um, it's a... it's a circle.
‎我不会说是生活圈 ‎但这也是个圆圈
I wouldn't consider it a circle of life, but it's a circle.
‎埃尔帕索处理中心这里 ‎有840的床位容量
The El Paso processing center here has a bed space capability of 840.
‎我们每天都差不多有840个人
We're right around 840 every day.
‎床位容量是...
Bed space is...
‎我早上进来第一件看的事
first thing in the morning when I come in, that's what I'm looking at.
‎也是我晚上睡觉之前看的最后一件事
Last thing I look at night when I go to sleep is bed space,
‎有时我也会梦到床位状况
and sometimes in my dreams in between, it's bed space.
‎大家都满载了
Everybody's at capacity.
‎我们这里每晚的计划就是考虑
Every night here, the plan is:
‎“我们有没有够床位让他们睡？”
Is there a bed that we can put 'em in?
‎（遵守法律的移♥民♥ ‎被拘留是很普遍的事）
‎（ICE拘留的人超于百分比二十 ‎都是寻求庇护者）
‎我上个在国土安♥全♥部♥的值勤
My last tour of duty, if you will, at the department Homeland Security
‎就是ICE前副参谋长
was serving as the Deputy Chief of Staff for ICE.
‎它让我彻底地明白了ICE的行动
It provided me a 50,000-foot view of ICE operations.
‎我处理的是拘留设备
And I was dealing with detention facilities.
‎这是一个民事行政系统
It's a civil administrative system.
‎我们能拘留别人的原因只有一个
And the only reason we're supposed to detain people
‎就是确保
is for the sole purposes of ensuring
‎他们能完成他们的法律诉讼
that they are able to see their proceedings through,
‎让我们政♥府♥能把他们送回本国
and then we, as a government, are able to remove them to their home country.
‎如你所见的 为了现在出庭的人
As you can see, the paths are clearly lined here
‎画的地上标记很清楚
for persons that are coming out of court right now.
‎这会让长官们更轻易地明白
It makes it easier for... for the officers
‎拘留者的目的地
at every point to see where the detainees are headed.
‎我是说 这是维持秩序的方法
I mean, it's pretty much to keep order.
‎和监狱很不一样
This is very different than prison.
‎我们这里的被拘留者 ‎有很多的娱乐时间
Our detainees here have extended rec time.
‎设施是开放型的
It's an open facility where they're not in a cell,
‎他们没全天候地被锁在牢房♥里
you know, 24 hours a day, seven days of the week.
‎不但如此 但这里也没徒刑
Not only that, but there's no sentences here.
‎这是我们这里的医疗房♥屋单位
This is the medical housing unit here. This is where we keep
‎我们比较敏感的案子也在这里
some of our more delicate cases in here as well.
‎我们目前有几个绝食者在里边
Right now, we do have several hunger strikers in here.
‎他们绝食了几天了
They've been on hunger strike for a few days now,
‎而我们只想好好看着他们
and we wanna make sure that we keep an eye on them.
‎说到底 我们不想他们在羁押中死亡
We don't want them to die in custody. Bottom line.
‎所以我们迟早必须要求法♥院♥命令 ‎让我们强行喂食
So, at some point, we have to request a court order to force-feed.
‎通常这是他们抗♥议♥他们案子的方法
Usually, it's a protest on their case.
‎他们想留在美国 或想被释放
They wanna stay in the US, or they wanna be released,
‎或他们想让他们的案子加急处理
or they want their case expedited.
‎大多数是：“我想被释放”
Most is, "I want to be released,"
‎那些案子很多都没得救济
and in many of those cases, there is no relief.
‎所以这会造成一个
So, it creates this issue of,
‎“若你们不释放我 ‎我就会绝食伤害自己”的问题
"Well, if you're not gonna release me, then I'm gonna harm myself by not eating."
‎所以...
So...
‎我们只要能够试图进行遣送 ‎他们就会留在这里
They're here for as long as we can try to effect a removal.
‎所以他们不像被关着的监狱犯人 ‎会知道他们几时能离开
So they have... It's not like... a jail inmate that's in here, sentenced to a certain time. They know the day they get out.
‎他们根本不知道几时能离开 ‎我也明白...
They have no idea when they're gonna leave, and I know--
‎若是我的话 不知道几时才能离开
I mean, if I was in their place, it would be very difficult