怪物：杰夫瑞·达莫的故事（2022）

DAHMER - Monster: The Jeffrey Dahmer Story S01E10

Part 2 Nov. 26, 2022, 12:12 p.m.

斯卡弗！我们去散步吧
Scarver! Let's take a walk.
天啊
Jeez.
你为什么要调查达莫先生？
And why exactly
are you doing research on Mr. Dahmer?
我不是要调查他
我只是想知道他是因为什么进来的
I'm not doing research on him.
I just want to see
what he did to get in here.
看看他有什么了不起的
And see what the big deal about him is.
长♥期♥单独监禁
搞得我消息闭塞仅此而已
Time spent in solitary
has put me out of the loop, is all.
斯卡弗先生
系统显示由于你的精神状况
Well, Mr. Scarver,
according to the system,
because of your psychiatric condition,
你不能查看某些资料
your access to certain
viewing materials is restricted.
听着就像我跟医生说的
Look, like I told the doctors,
是某些食物造成我精神失常的
certain food causes me
to have these psychotic breaks.
譬如面包精制糖还有那些垃圾食品
You know, bread, refined sugar,
and all that artificial crap.
自从我改变饮食习惯开始信教…
Ever since I changed my diet
and found Christ…
我就没事了
I've been okay.
拜托杰女士求你了好吗？
Come on, Ms. G. Pretty please?
（食人魔吃人）
（杀害并吃掉17人的疯子长这样）
（“行走的僵尸”想象中的受害者）
Oh…
（异形奇花威州被肢解的人）
（食人魔日报异形奇花）
（警方将老挝少年还给了达莫）
Uh…
（成功逃脱）
（目击该男孩没穿衣服头在流血）
（他被警♥察♥带回给达莫）
（孩子的尸体）
（盐酸）
（14岁）
…喝了很多酒当他喝多了
…drank a lot, and when he drank a lot,
是的他会虐待受害者
yeah, he was abusive.
也许这就是约翰盖西的问题所在
Maybe that's where
it began to go wrong for John Gacy.
他不知道似乎也不在乎
He doesn't know, nor does he seem to care.
他沉浸在绘画中
He loses himself in his paintings.
这就是耶稣在我心目中的样子
This is Christ as I see him in myself.
他是伟大的
因为耶稣对我来说是伟大的
And it's monolithic
because Christ, to me, is monolithic.
他是所有人的神
He's all things to all people.
你不担心面对上帝吗？
You're not worried about facing God?
不会我跟他在一起很放松
No. I'm fairly comfortable with him.
过去十年在天主教的仪式上
At the Catholic services,
I've been the server for the priest
我一直是牧师的助祭
for the last ten years.
对此我没有丝毫不安
And I have no qualms about doing that.
我有做忏悔吃圣餐
I've had confession, had Communion.
所以我已经跟自己和解了
So, I'm at peace with myself.
约翰盖西现在面临注射死刑
John Gacy now faces
death by lethal injection.
明晚我们将播放
他是如何被判有罪的
Tomorrow night we'll hear how
he's the victim for being found guilty.
嘿
Hey.
Uh…
我能跟你谈谈吗？
Can I talk to you a sec?
当然了
Absolutely.
你觉得为什么我们现在有这么多人？
So, why do you think
there's so many of us now?
你是说犯人吗？
You mean inmates?
不我是说像我这样的人
No, I mean, uh, guys like me.
我们被称为
People they call, uh,
连环杀手
serial killers.
我不确定是否有人知道答案
Well, I'm not sure
anybody knows the answer to that.
有人说是因为州际高速公路系统
Some say
it's the interstate highway system.
这是本国历史上相对较新的一项发明
A relatively new invention
in the history of this country.
可以让凶手在杀人后迅速消失
把尸体扔在千里之外
You can kill somebody and disappear fast,
dump the body a thousand miles away.
也可能是因为二战或越战
Or maybe it was World War II or Vietnam.
从战场上回来的爸爸们
他们受到了创伤
Dads coming back
from the war, they're traumatized.
他们不会谈论此事
他们缺席家庭教育虐待孩子
Don't talk about it.
They're absent, abusive.
养出一堆有问题的孩子
They raise troubled sons.
此外从20世纪70年代♥开♥始
There's also the explosion
and wide availability of pornography,
色情作品的泛滥和广泛传播
也可能是原因之一
which wasn't the case until the 1970s.
你相信世间…
You believe there's such a thing as just…
有邪恶存在吗？
being evil?
我想你可能猜到我的答案了
I think you could
probably guess that I do.
我小的时候也去过教堂
You know, I went
to church as a little kid.
有一年万圣节我扮成了恶魔
And then one Halloween,
I went as the devil.
那种感觉很棒
And, uh, something felt good about that.
等我长大一些
Then I got a little older…
我给他做了一个祭坛
and I made an altar to him.
给恶魔做的
The devil.
我打算做一个真人♥大♥小的
And I was planning
on making a life-size one.
所以我才保存了那么多身体部位
That's what I was saving
a lot of the body parts for.
即使是在电影里譬如《星球大战》…
Even in movies, like Star Wars…
我也更喜欢里面的坏人你知道吗？
you know, I always like
the bad guys more, you know?
好吧我也是的
Well, so did I.
那些角色被刻画得更好
Those characters are written better.
是啊
Yeah.
你到底想问我什么杰夫？
What do you really want to ask me, Jeff?
好吧…
Well…
我看到约翰韦恩盖西的新闻了
I was watching that, uh,
that John Wayne Gacy on the news.
人们都说我和他一样
因为我俩都做过可怕的事情
You know, people say we're the same
'cause we both did terrible things.
但是…
But…
我真觉得我俩不一样
I really think we're different.
我对自己的所作所为供认不讳
I admitted to everything.
All of it.
而盖西至今仍然矢口否认
And Gacy still says he didn't do it.
我想被判死刑
I wanted the death penalty.
他却说他不怕死
And he was saying
that he's not afraid to die,
因为他已经跟上帝和解了
'cause he's made his peace with God.
他还是会上天堂
And he's gonna go to heaven.
所以我想问你
So, I guess my question is,
你觉得上帝会原谅他吗？
do you think God's forgiven him
for all that?
你是在问他还是在问自己杰夫？
Are you asking about him
or about yourself, Jeff?
我觉得我的所作所为不值得被宽恕
I don't think I deserve forgiveness
for what I done.
这不是“值得不值得”的问题杰夫
Well, it's not about "deserve," Jeff.
这是上帝的恩典
That's the thing about grace.
我们不值得但我们还是得到了
We don't deserve it, but we get it anyway.
耶稣被钉在十字架上时
他不是一个人
You know, Jesus wasn't alone
when he was dying on the cross.
还有两名罪犯
跟他一起被钉在了十字架上
There were two criminals
that were being crucified with him.
其中一名罪犯讥诮地对耶稣说
And one of them said to Jesus,
kind of making fun of him,
他说：“如果你是上帝的儿子
为什么不救救自己呢？
he says, "Hey, if you're the Son of God,
why don't you save yourself?"
顺便也救救我们吧”
"And save us while you're at it."
但另一名罪犯应声责备他说：“等等
But the other one,
he shouts this guy down,
says, "Hold on."
你和我我们是罪犯
我们所受的与我们所做的相称
"You and me, we're criminals.
We're getting what we deserve."
但是这个人耶稣
他没有做过一件不好的事”
"But this guy, Jesus,
he didn't do nothing wrong."
然后他对耶稣说：
“你的国降临的时候求你记念我”