黑暗之心（2018）

里面都是遭到过性侵孩子的家庭
who'd been affected by abuse.
是这个吗
Was it this one?
是的
Yeah.
你是在那里认识盖尔·沃特金斯的吗
Did you meet Gail Watkins there?
我只去过几次
Er... I only went a couple of times.
我不太记得了
I really don't remember.
是谁组织的
Who ran it?
大家只是坐成一圈然后聊天
It was a circle, you sat in a circle of chairs and just talked.
我不知道是谁...
I don't think anyone...
那个地方肯定有人定的吧
Someone must have booked the hall, mustn't they?
可能吧
I guess.
这是谁的电♥话♥号♥码
Well, whose number's this?
那只是个应答服务的电♥话♥
It was just an answering service
这样就能告诉他们你会到场
so that you could let them know if you were going.
在哪儿
Where was it?
我想是某个老议会大厦吧
Some sort of old council building, I think it was.
在沃伦街后面
It was... behind Warren Street.
格丽塔 这个电♥话♥联♥系♥人的文件
Greta, this file of phone contacts was amended on the day
雷·柯林斯被谋杀当天被修改了
that Ray Collins was murdered.
其实
In fact...
我的意思是
I mean, look at that,
估计就是他死后两个小时
it was only two hours after our estimated time of his death.
我的一个女儿被性侵过
I have a daughter who was sexually abused
我的丈夫在戒备森严的监狱里服刑了八年
and a husband serving eight years in a high security prison,
所以你们应该能理解 为什么我不会为
so perhaps you'll understand why
柯林斯这种人哭泣 但是我没杀他
I don't weep for men like Collins, but I didn't kill him.
黛比确实打电♥话♥给我
Debbie did call me to
告诉我发生了什么 但是他死的时候
tell me what had happened, but when he died,
我和我女儿在教堂
I was in church with my daughter.
感谢上帝赐予我们生存所需的所有力量
Thanking God for giving us all the strength we needed to survive.
她的不在场证明可能是真的
She might have been telling the truth about her alibi,
但是关于其他事 她撒谎了
but she's lying about other stuff.
他们都撒谎了
They all are.
我们继续施压
We keep the pressure on.
所以 我们只是想和你谈谈
So, we just wanted to talk to you
关于上次审讯时你说的话
about something you said last time we spoke.
你说
You said,
"我努力应对所有的罪恶感
"I struggle to cope with all the guilt
关于他所做的一切
at what he did,
关于律师所做的一切
what his lawyer did,
关于皇家检察署对我们家庭做的一切"
what the CPS did to our family."
我觉得这有点奇怪
And I find that a bit odd.
因为其实 是你取消了合作
Cos actually, it was you who withdrew your cooperation
导致案件撤诉 对吗
and caused the case to collapse, wasn't it?
谁告诉你的
Who told you that?
我和皇家检察署聊过了
I spoke with the CPS.
他们告诉你我为什么取消了合作吗
Did they tell you why I withdrew cooperation?
由你亲自告诉我吧
Why don't you tell me?
因为你们的人搞砸了
Because your lot messed up.
你们在没有负责的成年人陪同下
You interviewed one of my girls
审讯了我的一个女儿
without a responsible adult.
因为我的律师说
Because my solicitor said
这样辩护会使她吃亏的
the defence would have made mincemeat of her.
那就让她再接受一次审讯
Well, why not just have her be interviewed again?
我猜你没孩子
I'm guessing you don't have kids.
所以你不知道有孩子是什么感觉
So you don't know what it's like,
看着你在这世上最爱的人
watching someone you love more than anything else in the world
一遍又一遍地回忆起那段经历
have to dredge it all up again and again and again.
这就是原因
That's why.
跟我说说你和格丽塔·卡希尔的关系
Tell me about your relationship with Greta Kashell.
我和格丽塔·卡希尔没关系
I don't have a relationship with Greta Kashell.
但是你知道她是谁 对吗
Yeah, but you know she is, don't you?
我和她见过几次
I met her a few times.
在哪儿
Where?
我偶尔去一个互助小组 但是我们不是朋友
At a support group I went to occasionally, but we're not friends.
我认识了她 我们这么多年只说过两次话
I've met her... we've spoken maybe twice in as many years.
和盖尔·沃特金斯呢
And Gail Watkins?
-也是 -在儿童性侵受害者互助会吗
- Same. - At SCAR?
是的
Yes.
黛比 我们有搜查你房♥子的搜查令
Debbie, we have a warrant to search your house.
搜查的时候 我们会查你的通话记录
When we do, we're going to go through your phone records
查你的电脑和日记还有通讯录
and your computer and your diaries and your address books.
你真的认为是我们吗
You really think it was us?
是吗
Was it?
不是
No.
你让其他人帮你做过吗
Did you ask someone to do it for you?
-没有 -你知道是谁干的吗
- No. - Do you know who did it?
不知道
No.
黛比 现在是你的机会
Debbie, this is your chance,
现在是你告诉我们你的故事的机会
this is your opportunity to tell us your side of the story.
因为我觉得在你内心深处 你想告诉我
Because I think in your heart you want to talk to me.
我觉得你以某种方法参与了这些事件
I think you are involved in these events somehow,
而且我觉得你很后悔
and I think you regret it.
我觉得你非常后悔
I think you regret it very much.
我觉得你想说说
I think you wanna talk.
没有
No.
我没什么要说的
I have nothing further to say.
上周发生的袭击和谋杀案还没找到凶手
..The assault and murder last week of as yet unnamed man.
当地居民已证实
It's been confirmed by local residents that both men have been
这两名男子
arrested previously in
此前因涉嫌虐待儿童而被捕
connection with allegations of child sex abuse.
来看一下其他新闻
Now, other news,
在伦敦金融城 富时100指数上涨...
and in the City, the FTSE 100 is up...
斯塔夫
Staffe.
这是黛比·柯林斯家的搜查结果
A result from the search of Debbie Collins' house.
这是在厨房♥的抽屉里发现的
This was found in a kitchen drawer.
里面有格丽塔·卡希尔和盖尔·沃特金斯的名字
It's got Greta Kashell in there and Gail Watkins
和一些其他名字
and a number of other names
我怀疑是她在互助小组里
which I'm guessing are other parents
遇到的其他家长
that she met at the support group.
我能...
Can I...
好的好的 我们要把这个发给
OK, OK, we need to run this through
情报局 数据中心 车管所
Intel, PNC, CMS,
拘留所以及指挥控制中心
Custody and Command And Control.
我想知道他们的孩子遭遇了什么
I want to know what the crimes against their kids were,
嫌疑犯有没有被起诉
whether the suspects were prosecuted,
所有的嫌犯在哪儿 以及斯塔森 柯林斯
where all the suspects are now and where all those parents were
和道利什被袭击的时候 他们的家长在哪儿
when Statham, Collins and Dawlish were attacked.
太好了 我们越来越接近了
Ah, yeah, we're getting closer, we're getting closer.
做得好 大卫
This is good work, Dave.
礼物
Present.
我们一起凑的
We all clubbed together.
不用费心的
You shouldn't have.
我也是这么说的 哪儿有那么严重
That's what I said. It's just man flu.
那个回复的服务号♥码
Er, so the answering service number,
英国电♥信♥那边有查到什么吗
did you get any joy from BT?
有 名字和一个地址
Yeah, name and an address.
不幸的是 这是个假名字
Unfortunately, the name's John Smith,
号♥码和账单都注册在市里一个商务中心
line and bills were registered to a serviced office in the city.
那账单是怎么付的
What about how they paid?
我还在等账务部门的回复
I'm waiting to hear back from the billing department.
他们说可能要等一两天 所以...
They said it might take a couple of days, so...
我的天 好了
Jesus, all right!
几乎都让我觉得内疚了
Almost making me feel guilty.
几乎
Almost.
好吧 我去儿童性侵受害者互助会
Right, I'm off to the SCAR meeting hall.
账单方面一有消息马上给我电♥话♥
Call me on the billing as soon as.
我把话说清楚 给病人不应送这玩意儿
OK. Just to be clear, this isn't what you give sick people.
大家不送这个有二十年了
It hasn't been for about 20 years.
可味道好极了 不是吗
It tastes nice, though, doesn't it?