um, since 2014.
[戴夫] 这片区域有过不明飞行物(
UFO)或光球目击吗?
[Dave] Have there been UFOs,
orb sightings in this area?
[托德] 是的,先生,有的。
[Todd] Yes, sir, there is.
尤其是,
这里最常见的就是这些大小不一的光球,
In particular, what is
most common down here
它们似乎有某种智慧,
is these balls of light
of various size
能绕过各种障碍物。
that appear to have,
uh, like, intelligence
and navigate around things.
[戴夫] 所以我们有大脚怪,
[Dave] So we have Bigfoot,
光球、不明飞行物(UFO),
全都出现在同一区域。
orbs, UFOs, all in one area.
这也是我注意到的一点。
This is something
I've noticed too.
在那里我能直接——
Where I can make a direct--
更直接地与大脚怪相关联,
More direct correlation
to the Bigfoot,
那些光球看起来是发黄的,
those orbs seem to be yellowish,
就像白炽灯泡一样,
like an incandescent light bulb,
带着那种发黄的色调。
that kind of yellowish hue to it.
它飞到了我停车的那条路上。
It came out over to the road
where I was stopped.
其中三个完美地停了下来,
Three of them stopped perfectly,
离路面大约五英尺高。
about 5 feet above the road.
而且我告诉你,
感觉就像一个……一个讯息
And I'll tell you, it felt
like a... a message
它暂停的方式。说实话,这很震撼。
in the way that it paused.
Honestly, it was dramatic.
是的,这让我很紧张。
Yeah, it was stressful for me.
我们进入了恐惧模式,但绝对地
We go into fear mode,
but absolutely
这是一个讯息,而我正要开车
this was a message,
and I was going to drive
越过或穿过那里的一切,然后离开。
over or through whatever
was there to leave.
在我靠近它们之前,
And before I got to them,
它们只是飘进了树林里,
they just floated to the woods
然后飞过了山谷。
and then went out over the valley.
[戴夫]
那么你可以说光球和大脚怪之间存在关
联?
[Dave] So then you would say
that there is an association
[托德] 你不该说
of the orbs and the Bigfoot?
那个,嗯,
相关性并不意味着因果关系,
[Todd] You're not supposed to say
但是你知道,
什么时候这种关联才真正成立呢?
that, uh, correlation
doesn't mean causation,
我的意思是,
科学不就是从这里开始的吗?
but, you know, when is
there a point where it does?
就我个人的经验而言,我会说是的。
I mean, isn't that how science
starts, is right there.
而我个人的经历,我要说,是的。
And my personal experience,
I'm going to say yes.
是的,我敢大胆地说,我会说“是”。
Yeah, I'll throw my neck
out there. I'll say yes.
[保罗低声录音] 哦,天哪。
[Paul whispers on
recording] Oh, God.
背后的原因可能是附近有个婴儿?
What was the rationale behind
maybe there was a baby nearby?
嗯,我们可以看到那个婴儿被抬起,
Well, we can see
the baby being lifted
并在影像中被抱起。
and picked up in the footage.
嗯,
现在我们能通过一些增强处理看到这一
点,
Um, and we can see that now
due to some enhancements
在原始影片中,这非常非常难辨认。
done on the film,
where in the original,
它拍摄于1992年,
it's very, very
difficult to pick up.
但直到2000年,
It was shot in 1992,
道格·哈吉切克先生才发现,
but it was not until the year 2000
那个婴儿被抬起。
that Mr. Doug Hajicek discovered
我爸爸从来不知道这件事,
the baby being lifted.
直到道格在2001年初把它给他看。
My dad never knew about that
当你的爸爸拍下那段影像时,
until Doug brought that
to him in early 2001.
他有没有跟你说过,他感到害怕,
When your dad took that footage,
受到威胁,并且远离那个婴儿?
did he ever mention to you
that he felt intimidated,
[迈克尔] 是的,他确实说过。
threatened, and move
away from that baby?
它的叫声变得有点咄咄逼人。
[Michael] Well, he did, yes.
嗯,不幸的是,相机在那时关掉了,
It kind of became a little
aggressive in its vocalizations.
因为他的自我保护意识占了上风。
Um, and unfortunately,
the camera gets turned off
[保罗] 我一辈子都是个林中人,
at that point because
his self-preservation
kind of took over.
[Paul] I've been
a woodsman all my life,
而且我从不害怕任何存在于,呃……
and I've never been afraid
of anything that's in, uh...
那些在树林里的东西。
that's in the woods.
但我确实有点害怕这些,呃,大脚怪。
But I am just a little bit
afraid of these, uh, Bigfoots.
当你上去的时候,
你就进入了它们的后院。
When you go up there,
you're in their backyard.
这就好像它们要来市中心一样。
It's just like if they
was to come downtown here.
天哪,它们会进入我们的后院,
你知道。
Why, they'd be in
our backyard, you know.
所以它们知道每一条
小路和每一个小地方
So they know every little trail
and every little place
你只要能瞥见它们的地方
where you can just get
a glimpse of them,
它们转眼间就消失了。
and they're gone just
in a matter of seconds.
我们有一台调频无线电台,
他会告诉妈妈 We had a CB radio,
and he would tell my mom
他把车停在哪里。
where he was parking.
然后她会在他回来时接到联♥系♥。
And then she would be
contacted when he got back.
他会给她留下指示,
And he would leave
instructions with her,
基本上是说:“如果我不回家,
basically of, "If
I don't come home,
你就从这里开始找我。”
this is where you should
start looking for me."
这种痴迷的吸引力是什么?
What was the draw
on the obsession?
【迈克尔】他看到了,就再也放不下。
[Michael] He saw it and
he couldn't let it go.
他必须再看一次,还必须回去。
And he had to see it again
and he had to go back.
但你♥爸♥爸有能力
But did your dad have the ability
伪造如此复杂的东西吗?
to hoax something so complex?
不。【轻笑】
No. [chuckles]
我觉得没有,嗯……
I don't think so, um...
老实说,甚至直到,你知道,
Honestly, even up until, you know,
在他去世前大约一年,
他接受最后一次采访的时候,
about a year before he died,
when he gave his last interview
他还在积极挑战人们,主动挑战人们
he was challenging people,
actively challenging people
去证明那段影像到底是假的。
to prove where
the footage was fake.
而我正在做同样的事情。
And I'm doing the same thing.
我其实希望这成为
I actually want this to be
有史以来最受审查的影像,
the most scrutinized
footage of all time,
比帕蒂影片还要受关注,
more so than the Patty film,
比肯尼迪遇刺案的影像还要受关注。
more so than
the JFK assassination.
我希望这个东西被审查到那种程度,
I want this thing
scrutinized to the point
以至于我们再也无法说它是假的了。
where we can't say
that it's fake anymore.
大脚怪世界里有很多扎实可靠的证据。
There's a lot of good, solid
evidence in the Bigfoot world.
不幸的是,你一直在对抗嘲笑
Unfortunately, you're fighting
ridicule
以及持续不断的怀疑,
而这都是媒体在推波助澜。
and doubt consistently, and
that's fueled by the press.
而且不幸的是,有时候很难
And unfortunately,
it's sometimes hard
看到太阳,因为那片区域雾气太重。
to see the sun when there's
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