And appears to just flat out say no,
你看到小女孩们,
and you see the little girls,
她们的表情,心都碎了
and their faces, and they're heartbroken
认识一下乔迪·布朗
Meet Jodi Brown
这位母亲成为了受害者
The mother who was victimized
在芝麻街角色罗西塔手下
at the hands of Rosita, the Sesame Street character
她不愿谈论这个创伤性事件,
She was reluctant to talk about the traumatic incident,
但为了5万美元,
but for $50,000,
她愿意讲述她悲惨的故事
she was willing to tell her tragic story
现在,你把这一刻描述为令人作呕,
Now, you have described this moment as disgusting
因为我觉得如果
你能够在我的孩子之前
Because I feel like if you are able to acknowledge
和之后认可其他人,
someone before my children and after my children,
你本可以停下两秒钟打个招呼的
you could've stopped two seconds just to say hello
这是针对你和你孩子的有目的的行为
This was something targeted at your you and your child
这是一个非常蓄意的种族主义行为
It was a very intentional racist act
我们不想听什么解释说"哦,表演者
We don't want some explanation that, "Oh, the performer
没有看到这两个小女孩"
"didn't see these two young girls "
其中一个是,今天因为
这家公♥司♥造成的伤害
Which one of them is in isolation today
而处于隔离状态
from the harm that is being caused by this company
所以我们要求,所以我们要求
So we're gonna demand,So we're gonna demand
他们要负责任何类型的医疗费用
that they take care of any type of healthcare
或心理治疗费用
or mental care expenses
这些孩子已经意识到了
that these children have realized
罗西塔是谁?谁在那套服装里?
And who is Rosita? Who's in that costume?
梅尔·吉布森
Mel Gibson
我认为那个人需要
I think that person needs to be,
你知道,被追究责任
you know, held accountable
开除并追究责任
绝对要开除
- Fired and held to account - Absolutely fired
好吧,在你开除他们之前
Well, before you fire 'em,
教他们为什么要被开除
teach 'em why they're being fired
然后让他们走
And then let them go
然后让他们走
And then let them go
我们如何解决吉祥物中普遍存在的种族主义?
How do we fix the endemic racism among mascots?
我觉得吉祥物需要接受更好的培训
Mascots, I feel, like, need to be trained better,Mascots
你知道穿着那套服装的员工是谁吗?
Do you know who the employee is that was
不知道
in the costume? - No
那些信息从未告诉过我
That information was never given to me
呃,我们知道他们是白人吗?
Uh, do we know if they're white?
嗯,这个信息也没有告诉我
Um, that information was also not given to me
你认为美国社会是种族主义的吗?
Do you think American society is racist?
美国存在一种仇恨的流行病
There is an epidemic of hate
在美♥利♥坚♥合众国
in the United States of America
暴♥力♥威胁
Threats of violence
死亡和毁灭的威胁
Threats of death and destruction
仇恨和种族主义
在美国依然存在且猖獗
Hate and racism are alive and well in America
这简直是太疯狂了
This is just absolutely crazy
她被一群男人言语攻击
She was verbally attacked by a group of men
我听到
And I heard
他们清楚地说"唐纳德·特朗普"
distinctly them saying,"Donald Trump "
在那里发生了仇恨犯罪
where a hate crime
正在被调查
is being investigated
连续第三年
third consecutive year
校园内发现了一个绞索
a noose has been found on campus
正在增多的痛苦、残酷的仇恨犯罪
Bitter, brutal hate crimes that are on the rise
增加了17%
17% increase
增加了20%
20% increase
55%
55%
仇恨犯罪激增
Hate crimes have surged
超过7,200起仇恨犯罪
More than 7,200 hate crimes
在布巴的车♥库♥里发现了一个绞索
A noose was found in Bubba's garage
这不是关于赛车的
It's not about racing
这是关于种族的
It's about race
贾西·斯莫列特仇恨犯罪案
The Jussie Smollett hate crime case
显示出似乎是一个绞索
shows what appears to be a noose
套在这位《帝国》演员的脖子上
around the Empire actor's neck
没有什么比绞索更应受谴责的了
You could not get more reprehensible than a noose
我们的媒体说这是一场辩论
We have a media that's saying it's a debate whether or not
关于贾西·斯莫列特刚刚遭遇的事
what just happened to Jussie Smollett
是否是仇恨犯罪 这太荒谬了
is a hate crime It's absurd
我从一开始就一直
I've been truthful and consistent
在每个层面上都诚实和一致
on every single level since day one
现在,有一项国内恐♥怖♥主♥义♥预防法案
Right now, there is a domestic terrorism prevention bill
正在众议院推进
moving through the house
新冠病毒仇恨犯罪法案
The COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act
谢谢
Thank you
仇恨犯罪特别工作组正在调查
The hate crimes task force is investigating
仇恨犯罪 -仇恨犯罪
Hate crimes - Hate crimes
仇恨犯罪 -仇恨犯罪
Hate crime - Hate crime
仇恨犯罪
Hate crime
仇恨犯罪
Hate crimes
想法?
Thoughts?
我认为仇恨犯罪是不好的
I think that hate crimes are bad
仇恨总的来说,呃,不是好事
Hate in general, uh, is not good
但它们现在无处不在
But they're everywhere now
不 -这是一种流行病
No - It's an epidemic
不,它...它不是
No, it's it's not
好吧,在大约
Well, out of, what,
每年2000万起指数犯罪中,
20 million index crimes a year,
有6000到7000起仇恨犯罪
there are 6,000, 7,000 hate crimes
不,这不是一种流行病
No, there's no epidemic
这是那种情况之一
This is one of those things
媒体报道与现实之间
where there's a huge disconnect
存在巨大差距,
between media presentation,
这确实是我专业研究的东西
and this really is something,I research professionally
你可能感到困惑的原因之一是
And one of the reasons that you're probably
我也跟你说说
我写了一本书《仇恨犯罪骗局》,
talking to me also is I wrote the book, Hate Crime Hoax,
我的意思是
我注意到在一段时间内可能
and I mean, I noted that over a period of maybe
你写的书叫什么?
You wrote the book called what?
呃,《仇恨犯罪骗局》
Uh, Hate Crime Hoax
我指出很多这样的事件
我指出很多这样的事件,
I pointed out that a lot of these incidents, I pointed out that a lot of these incidents,
贾西·斯莫莱特,呃,
Jussie Smollett, uh,
考文顿天主教,亚斯敏·塞韦德,
Covington Catholic, Yasmin Seweid,
杜克长曲棍球,布巴·华♥莱♥士♥
Duke lacrosse, Bubba Wallace
可怕的故事
Terrible story
呃,但它们并没有发生
这就是问题所在
Uh, but they didn't happen,That's the thing
我提到的那些故事
没有一个是真实发生的
None of those stories that I'm mentioning happened
我的意思是
这样的例子可以一直列举下去
I mean, you can just go on and on with this
呃,堪萨斯州立大学
可怕的种族歧视词语
Uh, Kansas State, the horrible racial epithets
写在高档车辆上
written on upscale vehicles
好的 让我们 让我们
Okay Let Let's
让我们慢一点
Let's slow down here for a moment
所以你写了《仇恨犯罪骗局》这本书?
So you wrote the book, Hate Crime Hoax?
是的
Yes
我们的笔记上漏掉了一个词
We're missing a word in our notes on that
呃
Uh
那是制片人的问题
That's an issue from the producer there
如果只写"仇恨犯罪",
if it just says "Hate Crimes,"
或者"仇恨犯罪蔓延",或类似的
or "Hate Crime Epidemic," or something like that
是的
Yeah
呃,你说你是黑人?
Uh, and you say that you're Black?
是的
Yes
统计数据不是
Don't the statistics
显示反黑人的仇恨犯罪
show that anti-Black hate crimes
是一个巨大的问题吗?
are a huge problem?
如果你分♥析♥这些统计数据
If you break down the statistics
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