104号房间

Room 104 S03E06

Part 1 Nov. 20, 2019, 9:04 a.m.

欢迎回来感谢收听
Hey, welcome back, and thanks for joining us.
今天的嘉宾是妮娜·布洛卡
I''m here with Nina Brokaw.
如果你跟我一样
If you''re anything like me,
你便知道她是位创作令人动容
you know her as the maker of atmospheric,
情感丰富梦幻音乐的作曲家
wildly emotional, dreamy music.
她的上一张专辑《扣人心弦》非常大热
Her last album "Tethered" was certainly a hit around our parts.
妮娜感谢来到现场
Nina, thanks for joining us.
谢谢邀请
Thanks for having me.
你目前还是在巡演
So, are you out on tour
宣传《扣人心弦》吗
still supporting "Tethered"?
这次是个小型巡演
This is just like a little mini‐tour.
为一些朋友演出
I''m opening for some friends of mine.
《扣人心弦》是三年前发布的所以
You know, "Tethered" came out about three years ago, so‐‐
对你说了
Well, yeah, you said it,
我没说但既然你提出来了
I didn''t say it, but now that you brought it up,
粉丝很好奇很想知道
the fans are curious and wondering
你是否有新的创作
is there something percolating in there?
我知道你的专辑很私人
I know your records are often very personal,
但我们能先听听小样吗
but can we get a little teaser, anything?
我现在还在起草的阶段
Well, I''m still kind of dreaming it up at this point,
所以具体还不清楚
so, yeah, I don''t know.
不错不错所以你在慢工出细活
Cool, cool. So you''re taking your time.
但我知道《扣人心弦》的创作和录制
But I know that you actually wrote and recorded "Tethered"
只花了48小时所以
in, like, 48 hours, so...
没错但也不是经常如此
Yeah, but it doesn''t always happen that way.
当然说的不错
Oh, of course. Totally.
我是说就是
I mean, yeah,
有时灵感来了就很简单思如泉涌
sometimes it comes and it''s simple and it just spills out,
但有时候又没那么容易很难
and sometimes it comes and it''s not easy, it''s hard,
真的就很他妈的难
and it''s... it''s just fucking hard,
所以你能不能...
so can you just‐‐
很抱歉我不是想一直问你关于...
I''m sorry, I didn''t mean to keep asking about‐‐
不抱歉我不是故意不说
No, I''m sorry. I didn''t mean to be defensive.
是我自己的状态不对几乎像
It''s just for me, it''s almost like‐‐
像是有个影子或是什么东西
there''s, like, a shadow or something
一直跟着我把我往它那里拽
that''s following me around and pulling me towards it.
我跟它抗争了很长一段时间
And I''ve been resisting it for a long time,
但人总不能一直活在阴影之下
but you just can''t live with a shadow, you know,
我想我得一探究竟
so I think I just have to dive in.
可是我不知道这很吓人
But I don''t know, it''s terrifying.
我害怕自己不能处理好
I''m scared I''m not gonna get it right.
我很害怕里面有什么东西
I''m scared of what''s in there.
就是啊我不知道
It''s just‐‐ Yeah, I don''t know.
你在这里做什么
What are you doing here?
我想跟你谈谈
I wanna talk to you.
我不想跟你谈
I don''t wanna talk to you.
我知道
I know.
这三个多月来我一直给你发短♥信♥打电♥话♥
I''ve been texting and calling you for three months.
我收到了
I know you have.
我真的不想和你谈
I really don''t wanna talk.
求你了
Please?
不我不想这么做
No. I don''t want to do this.
来吧
Please.
来吧
Go ahead.
我三年前遇到你的时候
When I met you three years ago...
就知道我遇到了一生挚爱
I just knew that I had met the love of my life.
我很确定你也有相同感受
And I''m pretty sure you felt the same way.
我们如此相爱
We were so in love.
我们谈婚论嫁
We talked about getting married...
生儿育女
and having kids.
但你给毁了
But you just destroyed it.
我成功的时候...
When I became successful...
你就...
you just...
你变得嫉妒
you became jealous,
小气厌恶
petty, resentful,
愤怒
angry...
而你毁了我们拥有的一切
and you destroyed what we had.
我觉得你不爱我了
I felt like you stopped loving me.
你让我感觉自己糟糕透顶
You made me feel terrible about myself.
而你夺走了对我而言最重要的事
And you took away the most important thing to me‐‐
就是我们
us.
当你身边的人
Well, it''s difficult
比你更成功比你更有天赋
when the person you''re with is more successful than you
相对你而言
and... more talented than you...
是个更好的人
...just generally a better person than you.
这真的改变了我
It changed me.
我不认识我自己了
I didn''t recognize myself.
我很嫉妒
I was jealous.
对不起
And I''m sorry.
但我得忘记你
But I need to get over you.
我看到那些画面
I see these images.
涌现在我眼前
They''re everywhere.
好像我出去走走
Like, I''ll be taking a walk...
我就会看到我们俩的画面
and I''ll see the image of us.
或者我在咖啡店
Or even if I''m at a coffee shop,
转过头就能在墙上看到
I''ll turn around and it''ll be playing on the wall.
我无法逃脱
I can''t get away from it.
那就像是你在缠着我
It''s like you''re haunting me.
我明白你不想和我聊
And I understand why you don''t want to talk to me.
但你不能把我推开
But you can''t just shut me out.
我还是把你带在身边
I still carry you with me.
我不知道该怎么办
I don''t know what to do.
那么
So...
我们还有没有机会还是说
is there any chance for us, or...?
已经毁了
It''s ruined.
没关系
And it''s OK.
我原谅你
I forgive you.
我们正在104房♥间多棒啊
Oh, we''re in Room 104. What a trip.
位置不错
Great set.
我们聊过合作
We had talked about collaborating,
但是今年发生的一些事
but there''s something that happened this year
和詹尼处理他的精神状况
with Gianni, dealing with his‐‐ I call it mental wellness‐‐
能够让他觉得不是被迫的
that allowed it to flow in a way that didn''t feel forced.