The undercover portion with Michael Hoover
进行得...
went, you know--
进行得超出预期
went beyond expectations.
我们监听到迈克尔·胡佛与安德鲁·格隆布通电♥话♥
We had, you know, Michael Hoover calling AJ Glomb.
我们怀疑格隆布是招募者
We suspected Glomb was a recruiter,
他可能不止招募了胡佛
and he probably didn't just recruit Hoover.
这和杰瑞叔叔有关系吗
Is there a connection to Uncle Jerry?
所以我们开始调查他
And so we started looking into him,
然后监听范围扩大到其他电♥话♥
and then expanded into other phone lines
我们监听了很多电♥话♥
We had coverage on many lines,
包括杰瑞·雅各布森 安德鲁·格隆布
including Jerry Jacobson, AJ Glomb,
以及几个得奖者
and a number of the winners.
整个犯罪网络
The spider web of all, like--
道格·马修斯联邦调查局特别探员
我们不清楚范围有多广
we didn't know how big this was.
我们知道了杰瑞叔叔
We--we had this Uncle Jerry-- it was--
但一切都很抽象 很模糊
everything was very general, nebulous.
所以在监控室里
So inside the--the wire room,
大家坐在那里 随时准备监听
people sitting there, getting ready to listen,
但一无所获
and nothing happens, right?
你付出了很多精力
You put all this effort into it,
但一无所获
and nothing happens.
周末休息时间都搭进去了
You're spending your weekend doing that.
很遗憾 在监听到的这些对话中
Unfortunately, in these conversations on the wire,
获奖者说的大都是毫无意义的话
the winners mostly had innocuous conversations
克里斯·格雷汉姆前联邦调查局小队负责人
和犯罪毫无关联
that have nothing to do with the crime,
所以我们想
so we start coming up with, "All right,
"我们如何让以前的获奖者讲述
How do we get past winners to recount how they
他们是如何赢得这些贴纸的"
allegedly won these pieces?"
我说 "我们可以这么做
I said, "Look, we can do this.
拉斯维加斯
要不我们把以前的获奖者全召集到拉斯维加斯"
Why don't we bring all these past winners to Vegas?"
我只说了拉斯维加斯
I just said Vegas.
只说了这个
It's all I said.
我不知道我为什么选拉斯维加斯
I don't know why I picked Vegas.
可能是因为好玩吧
Probably 'cause of the fun mere thing,
大家马上就说 "不"
which is the immediate, "No!" You know?
但我说 "听我把话说完
But I said, "Hey, just hear me out.
我们把之前的赢家都召集起来
Let's do a reunion of all these past winners.
把他们聚在一起 跟我们说说"
Let's bring all these people together to tell us,"
我们并不知道他们的故事
'cause we didn't know their stories.
跟我们说说他们怎么赢的
Tell us how they won these,
赢来的钱都花在哪儿了 诸如此类
and what they did with it, that kind of thing,
因为麦当劳财力丰厚
'cause, you know, McDonald's has big pockets.
他们免费去拉斯维加斯旅游
They get some all-expenses paid trip to Vegas,
放气球 撒彩纸
balloons falling and the confetti,
他们就喜欢这一套
and they love that shit.
问题是 "马修斯 你想把他们召集到哪里"
You know, the questions were, "Mathews, where are you gonna do this?"
大使套房♥酒店
Embassy Suites.
包了一整层
Take the whole floor,
把这层围起来
rope everything off, right?
以防有人来搅局
Just in case stupid shows up
把中奖者安排到这些房♥间里
and you have them all line up in these rooms
一下子把他们都抓起来
and just arrest them all at the same time, right?
非常棒
Great thing.
不
No.
不可能
No way in hell.
不 道格 不能这么做
No, Doug. Not gonna do that.
这得花多少钱啊
How much is that gonna cost us?
汤姆·克奈尔前联邦调查局特别探员主管
我们有预算额度
We--you know, we did have some budgets to deal with, you know?
所以...
So--
他怎么说的我记不清了
I can't remember what it was.
大概是 "把他弄出去"
It was like, "Get him out of here."
这种话之类的
You know, whatever it was.
"这种话你都敢说啊"
"I can't believe you said that."
道格是我见过的最努力的探员之一
Doug is one of the hardest-working agents I've ever met in my life.
极具创造力 什么事都做得出来
Very creative, you know? He'll do anything.
什么都敢尝试 特别能说
He'll try anything, and he can talk forever.
滔滔不绝
He is relentless.
"举办"一场把获胜者
This idea of "Hosting" a reunion
召集到拉斯维加斯聚会的点子
of past winners in Las Vegas, you know,
有点太另辟蹊径了
seemed so outlandish up front,
然后我们忽然意识到 "等等
and then we realized, "Well, wait a minute.
如果你不想执行这个计划
If you're not gonna follow through with it,
你可以保证..."
you can promise--"
"至少可以向他们做出一些诱人的承诺"
"You can promise some pretty elaborate things."
人人都向往拉斯维加斯
Everybody likes to go to Vegas,
为了备好这次我们出钱组织的
so in preparation for that wonderful conference
精彩的会面
that we were gonna have all expense paid,
我们要联♥系♥中奖者
we could contact these winners,
去拍摄他们 并收集他们所谓的故事
go out and film them to capture their so-called story,
诱饵就是你可以去拉斯维加斯玩
and then the carrot was you get this trip to--to Vegas.
计谋
里克有点被吓到
Rick was freaked out about it,
但我没有
but I wasn't.
记得 我这人就爱说
Remember, I'm the guy that's just, you know,
"你知道这法子可行"
"You know this is gonna work,"
因为确实可行
'cause I know it is, right?
这一切都是看命
It's all a shamrock, baby. Shamrock.
我负责直接联♥系♥中奖者
I was the direct contact with the winners,
这样我就能理顺所有信息
so I could legitimize all of the information.
通话都有录音
It was all recorded and, you know,
那是17年前的事了
it was 17 years ago,
当时我拎着一个麦当劳的黑色手提箱
so it was a big tape recorder that I carried around
艾米·默里麦当劳全球营销部高级主管
里面装着一个笨重的录音机
in a black McDonald's briefcase.
我甚至拎着它参加我朋友在杰克逊霍尔的婚礼
I even carried it to my friend's wedding in Jackson Hole
因为
because, you know,
无论何时他们来电♥话♥我都要录音
I had to be able to tape the calls whenever they came.
有时候还要给磁带翻面
It's like I had to flip the tapes
我就说 "您能稍等一下吗"
I'd be like, "Can I put you on hold for a second?"
然后把磁带翻个面
You know, and then I'd flip the tapes
再放回去
and then put them back on.
艾米会给他们打电♥话♥说 "是这样
Amy would call them up and say, "Hey, look,
我们正在准备一次媒体发布会
We're putting together this media release
让之前的中奖者谈谈如何中奖
of previous winners, how they won it,
奖金花在哪儿了
What they did with it,
他们有些故事大家都不知道
Some of their story that It hasn't been really told.
我们去找你们 或者你们来找我们
You know, we'll come to you or you can come to us."
三叶草制片公♥司♥请往里走
在哪儿都可以
Wherever we were gonna do it,
随便挑哪家酒店都行
whatever hotel that you want.
游泳池&水疗
健身房♥
会议室
没人拒绝这个邀请
Nobody said no to that.
几乎所有人都会问
Most everybody was like,
"我们什么时候去拉斯维加斯"
"Tell me when we're going to Vegas."
我们肯定不会举办聚会
Obviously we were not gonna do a reunion,
但是我们告诉中奖者们
um, but to the winners, we told them, uh,
"我们在准备这次聚会"
"We're planning this big reunion,"
我们让他们非常期待
and we started to get them actually
这次去拉斯维加斯的旅行
excited to be going to Las Vegas.
这是这场计谋的基础
That was kind of fundamental that was a bit of a ruse.
我们在拉斯维加斯并没有预定
We, you know--we didn't make reservations in Las Vegas.
我们的套路就是
I think the pitch was, you know,
"我们会在晚餐的时候 把你们的故事
"We're gonna put your story up on the big screen
放在大屏幕上
And, you know, over a dinner,
所有人都会鼓掌
And everybody's gonna clap.
你对于中奖者的聚会有兴趣吗"
Are you interested in the reunion of winners?"
麦当劳大富翁赢家们
他们现在在哪
他们当然感兴趣
And of course they are.
让他们在镜头前讲述这些故事
Well, locking them into a story on camera
让这个案子的等级从"次要"