神迹待证（2021）

能上天堂 而达♥赖♥喇♥嘛♥不能
is gonna go to heaven and the Dalai Lama is not.
你知道吗？
You know?
达♥赖♥喇♥嘛♥犯的致命错误是生而为佛教♥徒♥
The Dalai Lama made a big mistake being born a Buddhist
而不是福音派基♥督♥徒
rather than an evangelical Christian.
但话说回来 他总还有机会改变信仰嘛
But there you go, he's got the chance to change.
在我看来 这实在太傲慢了
I mean, somehow to me it seems total arrogance.
《怀疑论者》
[迈克尔] 怀疑论的一个原则是
[Michael] One of the principles of skepticism
在你说某件事情超自然之前
is that before you say something is out of this world,
让我们先确定它并非源于自然
let's first make sure that it's not in this world.
也就是说 在我们转向超自然解释之前
That is to say, we should look for natural explanations
迈克尔·舍默 哲学博士
科学史 《怀疑论者》杂♥志♥
我们应该先
for natural phenomenon,
为自然现象寻找自然解释
before we turn to supernatural explanations.
这个世界还有太多我们不知道的东西
There's so much about the world we don't know.
还有很多未解之谜
There's a lot of mysteries still unexplained.
所以 在我们放弃科学和自然解释
So before we abandon science and natural explanations
转而寻求超自然解释之前
and turn to the supernatural,
我们还要继续努力
let's just keep working at it.
[盖瑞] 怀疑论的观点通常
[Gary] The skeptical viewpoint in general is famous
批判基♥督♥徒戴着有色眼镜看问题
for judging Christians as having glasses on
盖瑞·哈贝马斯 哲学博士
宗教哲学
却意识不到自己也戴着有色眼镜
and not knowing that they have glasses.
这就像皇帝的新衣一样
It's like the emperor without clothes.
无神论者相信上帝不存在 这不意味着
Atheist means no God, it doesn't just mean,
哦 我不用为自己的观点辩护
oh I'm innocent of having to prove my view,
我不相信上帝
I don't believe in God.
你是在断言没有上帝
You're saying there is no God.
即便按照无神论评论者的说法
The chance you're getting life from non-life,
从无生命中自然产生生命的概率
even according to atheistic commentators
也远低于整个宇宙中
is far less than the possible chances
可能存在的其他概率
we have in the entire universe.
双方都必须拿出证据 否则就该闭嘴
Both sides have to put up data or shut up.
他们也得玩这个游戏
And they have to play this game too.
他们戴上了有色眼镜 就得定义
They've got glasses on and they've gotta define
并捍卫自己所戴的眼镜
and defend the glasses they're wearing.
我看着人体 会说这太神奇了
I can look at the human body and say, amazing.
大卫·利维 医学博士
神经外科
这一定是设计出来的
Must have been designed.
一个不愿意相信上帝的人
Someone who doesn't wanna believe in God,
看着人体会说 太神奇了
looks at the body and says, amazing,
一定是经过了几百万年的进化
must've evolved over millions of years
没有设计者 只是偶然
with no designer, just by chance.
这两种反应都以信仰为基础 都以我们
Both are faith-based and both really are anchored
想要相信的东西为依据
in what we want to believe.
[威廉] 我认为上帝存在的论据
[William] I think there are very good arguments
非常充分
for the existence of God.
我认为上帝是对万物
I think that God is the best explanation
威廉·莱恩·克莱格 哲学博士
哲学
存在的最好解释
of why anything at all exists.
祂是对孕育智慧生命
The best explanation of the fine tuning
的宇宙微调的最好解释
of the universe for intelligent life.
祂是对世界上存在客观道德价值
The best explanation for the existence of objective
和义务的最好解释
moral values and duties in the world.
我认为祂也是对耶稣的出生 死亡
And I think the best explanation for the historical facts
和复活等历史事实的最好解释
concerning the life, death and resurrection of Jesus.
这些只是支撑上帝存在
Those would be just some of the arguments
这一结论的部分论据
that go to undergird the conclusion that God exists.
[约翰] 古代世界的人们真的认为
[John] People in the ancient world genuinely thought
有一位神或众神在施行神迹
that there was a God or gods that did miracles.
而且神迹每天都在发生 你知道吗？
And miracles happened every day, you know?
比如太阳升起
Like the sun rising.
随着科学的兴起 我们改变了对
With the rise of science, we've changed our views
约翰·洛夫特斯 神学硕士
《反对神迹的理由》作者
可能性和证据的看法
of probability and evidence
这改变了一切
and that changes everything.
这就是今天神迹少了的原因
That's why there's fewer miracles today.
[迈克尔] 事实是 瘸子
[Michael] The fact of the matter is the lame
和瞎子并不会因为有人按手
do not start to walk and the blind do not
在他们身上或者为他们祷告
start to see just because somebody lays hands on them.
就开始行走和看见东西
Or if somebody prays for them.
89%的美国人相信上帝或更高力量的存在。*
79%的基♥督♥徒相信神迹仍然像古代那样发生。**
56%的美国人相信《圣经》中描述的上帝。*
*皮尤研究中心，2017 **皮尤研究，2007
理性集♥会♥ - 华盛顿哥伦比亚特区
[伊莱贾] 理性集♥会♥是无神论者聚集起来
[Elijah] The Reason Rally is where atheists gather
信心？
看好再跳！
我们需要摆脱
神本位制
要求美国更世俗化立法的地方
to demand more secular legislation in America.
“誓词”中的“上帝之下”
改为“法律之下”
“我们是法治国家，
不是人治”
（也不是神治！）
——‌约翰·亚当斯
神不存在。
祝你今天愉快！
作为回应 基♥督♥徒也现身说法
In response, Christians also show up
现在正是拯救的日子。
林后6:2
耶稣会将你从罪恶
和地狱中拯救出来。
悔改并相信福音！
宣扬自己的观点
to proclaim their views.
耶稣说
你们若爱我
就必遵守我的命令
约14:15
受到关注的主要是
It's mostly the people on the fringe
边缘人群
who get all the attention.
你们必须重生
读约翰福音3章
你们活该承受地狱
之火
我不怕地狱之火
我为什么要害怕去一个想象出来的地方？
了不起的兰迪
Amazing Randi.
詹姆斯·兰迪
超自然宣称调查者
[伊莱贾] 如果你在字典里查一下怀疑论者这个词
[Elijah] If you look under skeptic in the dictionary,
你会看到詹姆斯·兰迪的照片
you'll see a picture of James Randi.
兰迪是 80 年代的舞台魔术师 因为揭露
Randi was a stage magician in the '80s who became
彼得·波波夫是个骗子而出名
really famous for exposing Peter Popoff as a fraud.
彼得·波波夫
电视布道家
这是一个戏法 房♥间里的其他人
This is a trick where everybody else in the room
都知道是怎么回事 只有你不知道
knows how it's done, except you.
好吗？现在 首先 哪只手里？
Okay? Now, first of all, which hand?
那只 -好吧
That one. - Okay,
你答对了 恭喜
you got it, congratulations.
看 我要再来一次
Watch, I'm gonna do it one more time.
一 二 哪只手？
One, two, which hand?
那只
That one.
没有
No.
哦 在那边地上
Oh, it's on the floor over there.
我什么都没看见 没有
Well, I didn't see a thing, no.
一旦我这么做 你就得先闭上眼睛
Once I did this, you had to close your eyes at first
因为不然我就戳到你眼睛了 明白吗？
'cause I'm gonna poke you in the eye otherwise, you see?
一般人怎么能认出骗子？
How can the average person recognize a con artist?
当然 一个好的骗子是很难被发现的
A good con artist is very hard to spot, of course.
否则 他们也不会在自己的行业中名列前茅
Otherwise they wouldn't be at the top of their professions.
但是 有个古老的说法
But anything that sounds too good to be true.
非常古老的说法 天上不会掉馅饼
It's an old saying, very old saying, probably is not true.
如果有人向你提出了某种提议
If you're made an offer of some kind,
无论是投资提议 某种行动
an offer of investment, an offer of some sort of action
或捐赠之类的提议
or donation or whatever,
我想这个依据会很有用
I think that will serve you very well.
这条准则很好
It's a good rule.
[约翰] 我早年是五旬节派信徒
[John] I used to be a Pentecostal in my beginning years.
我记得有一位女士说
I remember there was a lady who said
她的癫痫病得医治了
she was healed of epilepsy.
我说 哇 那真是太酷了
And I said, "Wow, that's really cool."
约翰·洛夫特斯 神学硕士
《反对神迹的理由》作者
然后她说 是的 但我仍然有症状
And she says, "Yeah, I still have the symptoms though."
我当时想了一下
And I thought to myself at the time,
我说 等一下 这说不通