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他们不太可能在某一天停下来
It's very hard to kinda look up one day and say,
说 等等 我们是不是有点过分了
wait a second have we, have we taken a few steps too far.
编辑也不会这样做
And your editor's not gonna say that
男子声称其父是传闻中的十二宫杀手
因为他们也想把书卖♥♥出去
because they wanna sell the book too.
所有人都希望
Everybody is invested
这个人就是十二宫杀手
in this guy being the Zodiac Killer.
加里书中的许多诊断
Many of the claims that are made in Gary's book
都来自于早就去世之人的
largely come from human sources
口耳相传
who've all since passed on.
但加里能够接触到联调局有关
But Gary had made freedom of information act requests
小厄尔·范贝斯特的档案
for Earl Van Best Jr.'s FBI file
他还能获取加州执法通信系统的罪案记录
and he was also able to obtain a CLETS criminal history.
加里将他从这些文档中
So Gary used addresses that were contained,
所获得的内容
uh, in those documents
拼凑起来 造就了厄尔·范贝斯特的故事
to put together his address history for Earl Van Best.
所以我就能将其与波克城市目录
So I was able to take that and cross reference it
进行交叉比对
with the Polk City Directories.
在公立图书馆翻查过
After digging through the records
各种资料后
at the public library,
我感觉我们已经整理出比较完整的
I felt like we had a pretty complete
厄尔·范贝斯特的过往
address history for Earl Van Best.
在书中 加里说
So in the book, Gary says that
1969年时厄尔住在布♥什♥街797号♥
Earl lived at 797 Bush Street in 1969.
布♥什♥街
保罗·斯泰恩在离布♥什♥街797号♥
The story goes that Paul Stine picked up his fare
两个街区的地方搭载了他的乘客
two blocks from 797 Bush,
但我没有找到任何1969年他住在那里的证据
but I don't see any evidence that he lived there in 1969.
1967年时他确实住在那里
He did live there in 1967,
那是保罗·斯泰恩被杀两年前
which is two years prior to the murder of Paul Stine.
加里在他的书中还宣称
Another claim that Gary makes in his book
厄尔·范贝斯特在圣昆廷监狱待过一段时间
is that Earl Van Best did some time at San Quentin,
但是小厄尔·范贝斯特被定罪为联邦犯罪
but Earl Van Best Jr. was convicted of a federal crime,
而圣昆廷监狱是州立监狱
and San Quentin is a state prison.
他没有理由被关在圣昆廷监狱
So there was no reason why he would have gone to San Quentin.
根据我的调查 我没有找到任何
But in my research, I, I didn't come across any evidence
他在圣昆廷监狱待过的证据
to suggest that he ever did any time in San Quentin.
我唯一找到的证据是
The only thing I've come across was that
他在隆波克联邦惩教所待过
he did time at FCI Lompoc.
我能够为厄尔·范贝斯特
I was able to assemble
梳理一条相当完整的时间年表
a pretty complete chronology for Earl Van Best.
范
我们将他的年表列在这边
And we've laid that out on this side
在这边
and on this side
我们整理了一些十二宫案件的
we put together the key events
主要事件
of the Zodiac case.
我们从这条时间线能看出
And what we see in this timeline is that
1957到1968年间
we have a pretty complete chronology for Earl Van Best
厄尔·范贝斯特有一条完整的年表
starting in 1957 and going through to 1968,
大约到1968 1969年
roughly 1968, 1969.
然后出现了断点
And then there is a gap.
厄尔·范贝斯特似乎在1969到1974年间
Earl Van Best seems to have fallen off the radar
消失了
between 1969 and 1974.
而大部分十二宫的案件都发生在
And most of the Zodiac murders seem to have taken place
这一段空白的时间线中
during that gap in his timeline.
1969年底 伊迪丝搬去奥地利
所以我们想弄清
So what I'd like to figure out
厄尔·范贝斯特在1969到1974年间去了哪里
is where was Earl Van Best during 1969 and 1974?
我的《史上最危险的动物》原稿
My original draft of The Most Dangerous Animal Of All
是关于我的情感历程
was about my emotional journey.
当谈及十二宫杀手
When it came to the Zodiac,
就是 这发生了 这发生了 这发生了
it was, this happened, this happened, this happened.
这是我对十二宫杀人案的
That's as far as I went
全部所知了
with the whole Zodiac murders.
苏珊负责这部分
Susan took that and made
写了一整章关于十二宫的事情
you know, a whole book section out of it.
她把事情联♥系♥在一起
She put pieces together based upon
基于我父亲的行为 家人讲的故事
my father's behavior and stories from the family
还有威廉的话 一切都吻合
and William that fit perfectly.
故事的某些部分
There are parts of the story
听起来令人不可置信
that just sound unbelievable.
有些事情像是
There are things that seem like
编造出来配合整个故事的
they were made to fit into the story.
但是每次我有疑虑
But every time I had a doubt,
加里就能找出一个文件
Gary could produce a document
来证明
that verified it.
威廉·洛莫斯
特别是他和威廉·洛莫斯的谈话
Especially his conversations with William Lohmus.
我们花很多时间听歌♥剧
每次我想 这真的发生过吗
Each time I was like, uh, did that really happen?
我就会收到一封邮件告诉我
Then, I would have an email that said
他在教堂弹管风琴
我们在墨西哥靠买♥♥古董文件赚钱
威廉在这里提到过
here's William saying it right here.
对于某些东西
There were certain things
我得做出点信念的跳跃
where I did have to take a small leap of faith,
但是当加里告诉我一些事时
but I got to a point where when Gary told me something
我不会有所怀疑 因为他总能拿出证据
I didn't doubt him because he always had evidence
支撑他的说法
to back it up.
我接受批评家对我的抨击
I take my own flak from the critics,
我也不怪苏珊
and I don't blame Susan for any of it.
如果我没有百分百确定地
It would've never happened if I hadn't told her
告诉她我父亲是十二宫杀手
with a hundred percent certainty
事情也不会变成这样
that my father was the Zodiac Killer.
她只是用了一种我不擅长的方式
And she just told the story in a way that...
讲述了这个故事
I wasn't trained to do.
字母est的比对
我从来没想到要做的
One of the things I never considered doing
是笔迹分♥析♥
was a handwriting analysis.
但苏珊想到了
But Susan took that one step further.
我坚信 就是写了那张
Well, I'm convinced that whoever wrote
结婚证明的人写了那些信
the marriage certificate also wrote the letters.
但当结婚证明被展示给我时
But when I was presented with the marriage certificate,
苏珊告诉我
I was told by Susan
朱蒂看见小厄尔·范贝斯特
that Judy saw Earl Van Best Jr.
在结婚证明上签了字
write on the marriage certificate.
但读了书之后 我发现
But when I read the book, I realized that
朱蒂是待在更衣室里的
Judy was in a dressing room and came out
她出来时 结婚证明已经填好了
and the marriage certificate was completed.
意味着之前他们告诉我的信息
Which meant that what I was told earlier,
是错误的
it was not true.
这让我产生了疑问 是不是牧师
It raises a question to me, did the minister write
填写了结婚证明呢
the text on the marriage certificate?
我只知道我母亲告诉我的事
All I have is what my mother told me.
她说 你♥爸♥爸填写了这个证明
You know, your father filled this out,
我们就是这样结了婚
and this is how we were married.
结婚证明
出于我的职责和后续工作的要求
As part of my due diligence and follow-on,
我联♥系♥了他们结婚的那座教堂
I contacted the church where they got married.
我想知道他们有没有
I wanted to find out do they have examples
牧师的手写样本
of the preacher's writing?
他们确实有
And they did.
我做了比对
I did a comparison...
这使我得出了几乎肯定的观点
which caused me to come to the virtually certain opinion
是爱德华·弗拉戈牧师填写了那张结婚证明
the minister Edward Flagir wrote the marriage certificate.
我们已经知道警方通过十二宫杀手案的
Because we know that the police sketch
目击证人画出的人物速写
of the eyewitnesses of the Zodiac
和小厄尔·范贝斯特匹配
matches Earl Van Best Jr.,
问题产生了
It raises the question...
牧师是不是和小厄尔·范贝斯特联合作案的
Did the minister and Earl Van Best Jr. Work together,
一个人负责写信 另一个负责杀人
one writing the letters, one doing the killing?
这是个惊人的理论
That's quite a theory.
我以为我们肯定找对人了
I thought we had picked a stable guy.
但我没有再去找笔迹专家
But I didn't go looking for a handwriting expert,
那是苏珊的主意
that was Susan's idea,
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