我看到他被逐渐边缘化
Like, what I got to see there, I got to see how marginalized he was.
大概2012年的时候
So, in about 2012,
Ian不再有办公室了
Ian didn't have an office anymore.
我认为他觉得自己被怠慢了
I think he felt slighted by that.
他不参与决策制定
He wasn't involved with decision- making.
他会看着数据说这行不通
He would look at data and he said things were not working.
Ian陷入和Sunny产生不快的境地
Ian really got into bad shape with Sunny- -
和Elizabeth也是
both Sunny and Elizabeth,
因为那项技术有太多问题
because there's so many things wrong with that technology
难道重点不是Ian这样的人在那里
And isn't that the point of someone like that being there,
告诉他们为什么技术不成功吗
to tell them why it wasn't going to work?
2013年早期 Theranos试着阻止
In early 2013, Theranos tried to prevent Ian
Ian在一项专利诉讼中作证
from having to testify in a patent lawsuit.
如果他证明Elizabeth不是
If he were to give evidence that Elizabeth wasn't
她所宣称专利的发明人
the inventor she claimed to be,
公♥司♥的一些专利可能会无效
some of the company's patents might be invalidated.
随着他作证的日子近了
As the date of his deposition approached,
他醺酒并且陷入深度抑郁
he drank heavily and fell into a deep depression,
害怕诚实可能会让他丢了工作
afraid that honesty might cost him his job.
2013年的某天开始
Some time in 2013,
他不再工作了
he wasn't in work anymore.
Elizabeth告诉他待在家里
Elizabeth told him to stay at home
我猜是因为他说一切都没有进展
because I guess he was saying things aren't working.
我听到的说法就是这样
That was what the story I was told.
Ian问我他是不是要被裁掉了
Ian asked me if he thought that he was going to be fired,
我告诉他是的
and I told him yes.
很不幸
Unfortunately.
当天晚上他自杀了
And that was the night he killed himself.
他真的为这愚蠢的
He was so distraught over this stupid, um...
专利
inter- - uh, this...
滥用案件非常心烦意乱了
patent case, misappropriation case,
不知道他余生要做什么
and... not knowing what he was going to do with the rest of his life,
这是他自杀的原因
and that's why he committed suicide.
Ian自杀后
What was the reaction of the company
公♥司♥的反应是什么
after Ian committed suicide?
我不知道 因为他们从来没有和我沟通过
Um, I don't know because they never communicated with me,
除了叫我送回他手上的机密文件
except to ask me to send back his confidential stuff.
我把他放在家里的文件带了过去
I brought back his documents that he had at home,
留在了前台
and left them at the front desk.
你有再收到Elizabeth Holmes的讯息吗
Did you ever hear from Elizabeth Holmes again?
没有
No.
如果今天是我在这世上的最后一天
If today were my last day on this Earth,
我会说
and I could say that
本来会遭受磨难
the people who've gone through hell
才能获得化验检测的人们
in being able to just get the test done
现在不用受罪了
that they need to get care now don't...
我在这世上做出了贡献
I've done something in this world that
使之更为美好
has made it a little bit of a better place, right?
但是你们非常保护专利
But you've got to be protective about patent and all of that.
是的
We do
但你有没有担忧过
But do you have something to worry about,
有竞争力的企业总会被关注
obviously, competitive businesses always concerned about, you know,
融入进产品的想法
the ideas incorporated into products.
当然
Sure.
在其他人还在研究版本一时
You have to be on version 10
你就得在研究版本十了
by the time anybody else is on version one.
- 没错 - 这才是...
- Yes. - And that's...
这才是我们整个公♥司♥的意义
that's what our whole business is about, so...
所以你会疑神疑鬼
So, you're paranoid?
- 你必须这样 - 我们试着这样 对
- And you have to be. - We try to be. Yeah.
我们想要成为世上最疑神疑鬼的人
We want to be the most paranoid people on the planet.
绝对的
Absolutely. Yeah.
过去两年中
For last two years,
一年半里我们受到来自外界的攻击
year and a half, we come under attack, you know, from outside, and...
通常是来自Quest诊断公♥司♥
it's usually Quest Diagnostics.
他们整个产品战略就是谎言
Their entire product strategy is lies, built around
建立在让人得病并带着疾病生活下去的谎言
getting people sick and then living off of their diseases.
我们要改变那一点
And we are trying to change that, right?
你们都能理解
So, it's really important that you all understand
我们做的事是非常颠覆性的 这很重要
that what we are doing here is so disruptive
我们会一直被攻击
that we will always be attacked.
疑神疑鬼来自于他们相信
The paranoia seemed to come from the belief that
有人要打败我们 或者有人要偷走我们的想法
someone's going to beat us to it, or someone's going to steal our ideas,
或者我们不能拿下整个市场
or we're not going to get the whole market.
正常程度的疑神疑鬼和保密是合理的
There's a healthy degree of paranoia and secrecy,
但是这就太超过了
but this was well beyond that.
有保安人员
There was security.
你不能进她的办公室
You couldn't go walk up into her office.
不存在的
That just doesn't happen.
她有着防弹玻璃做外墙窗户
She had bulletproof glass on their exterior windows.
有保镖在楼下待命
There were bodyguards waiting outside,
几个人在大厅
you know, couple guys at the front lobby.
后来保镖人数越来越多
And that increased more and more later on.
她和Sunny每天早上同时出现
But, yeah, her and Sunny walk in at the same time every morning.
"一号♥鹰 二号♥鹰在来的路上"
"Eagle One, Eagle Two's on their way."
他们一进来 保镖会说“准备好
And soon as they start pulling in, "Okay, be ready.
把门打开"
Have the doors open."
她是一号♥鹰 Sunny是二号♥鹰
She was Eagle One, Sunny was Eagle Two.
据推测 Sunny追踪所有门卡的进出
Sunny supposedly tracked all the key card entries and exits,
所以每次你进入任何区域
so you would be identified each time
都会被识别出
you went into any area.
我们会互发邮件
We would send e- mails,
不抄送Sunny或者Elizabeth
not CC Sunny or Elizabeth,
然后就会收到Sunny的回应
and we would get a response back from Sunny.
我记得那对我来说是个很大的转折点
And I remember that was a very big turning point for me,
我那时觉得 我被监视了
where I was like, "You are being monitored. You are being watched."
我发现我被按键监控了
I found out that I was being keystroked.
意味着任何我打出的内容
That means that anything that I typed
都被内部监视着
was being watched internally.
对于前台接待来言这有点极端了 不是吗
It seems kind of extreme for a receptionist, doesn't it?
你在其他地方有碰到过这种事吗
Did that happen to you anywhere else?
没有
No.
当然保密协议必须要签
And, of course, nondisclosure agreements had to be signed.
一厚沓文书
A giant stack of paperwork
告诫你不能说公♥司♥的坏话
saying you can't speak poorly about the company,
你由此给公♥司♥造成任何危害都要负法律责任
you're legally liable for any detriment caused to the company.
到底是谁在写这些合同 他们在隐藏什么
It's like, who's writing these contracts and what are they trying to hide?
我们不能告诉家人我们的工作内容
We weren't supposed to tell our families what we did.
我们不能谈论任何
We weren't supposed to talk about anything
在Theranos内部发生的事情
that went on inside of Theranos.
过了一阵子
Then, after a while,
大家直接互相疑神疑鬼
people became paranoid of one another.
我们变得彼此孤立
We became much more siloed.
走在走廊里 你给人打招呼 对方会
Walking down the hallway, you'd say hi and the person would look
看天花板或者地板 任何能避免眼神接触的地方
at the ceiling or the floor or anything to avoid eye contact
并不会回应你
and not acknowledge you back.
一个接一个的人变成这样 你就会注意到
Then the next person and the next person, and then you'd notice,
然后整个团队都是这样 你对他们是隐形的
there'd be whole groups that just wouldn't... you were invisible to them.
有时真的很难交流信息
It was very hard to communicate information sometimes
因为有很多障碍和隔离
because there were so many blockades and silos
这就更能说明有秘密
and this emphasis on secrecy.
如果化学团队的人
If the people from the chemistry team could talk
谈论工程团队接下来要做的事
about what was coming next from the engineering team,
他们会说这不会解决问题的
they would've said, "Well, that's not going to solve the problem,"
但是因为所有人都是各干各的
but since everyone was working on it separately,
他们可以一直工作
they could all keep working forever
却解决不了任何问题
without actually solving anything.
硅谷的咒语是"行动迅速 打破常规"
The mantra in Silicon Valley is, "Move fast, break things,"
当牵扯到人们的生命
and that is really dangerous
这就很危险了
when people's lives are in the balance.
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