reconstruction of reality that's going on.
但是从她嘴里说出来的话
But what is coming out of her mouth
无法映射到现实
is not mapping onto reality
你或者我认知的现实
as you or I know it, you know?
我希望我能对她说
I wish I could say to her,
"Elizabeth 我要给你一剂吐真剂
"Elizabeth, I'm going to give you a truth serum,
你要告诉我
"and you're going to tell me
那个时候你的脑子里到底在想些什么"
what was going through your mind at that time."
然后问题就变成了
And the question becomes, do you--
你或者我们相信她会说
do we believe that she would say,
"我故意撒谎了吗"
"I knowingly lied?"
我很难想象她那么说
I have a hard time imagining her saying that.
她就是一个狂热者
She was a zealot, and a zealot is such a believer,
狂热者是一名深深的信仰者
a true believer, in what they're doing
信仰他们的所作所为以致于他们忽视了现实发生的事
that they're blind to the reality of what's happening.
我从未相信
Not for a moment do I believe
她晚上躺在床上会想着
that she lies in bed at night and thinks,
"我是一个骗子 是一个撒谎精"
"I was a swindler. I was a crook. I lied."
有一天 我收到了一封来自和Elizabeth Holmes共事的人的邮件
So one day, I get an e-mail from somebody who works with Elizabeth Holmes.
他问我能否和他们的团队见面 和Elizabeth见面
He asked me if I would come and meet with their team and with Elizabeth.
我说当然可以
I said sure.
我研究的部分是关于人的动机
Part of my research is actually about human motivation,
而她很关心公♥司♥里的消极怠工
and she was very concerned about the demotivation in the company.
因为源源不断关于公♥司♥的报道
Right? Because the continuous stories
使人无心工作
around them were demotivating.
我的印象是她真的相信公♥司♥的使命
My impression was that she truly believed in the mission of the company,
而且她也相信他们是在
and that she also believes that they are
做出成果的路上
on the way to achieve something,
只是需要跑道而已
and they just need the runway.
硅谷里的谎言太多了
There's a lot of lying in Silicon Valley.
我记得我的第一本关于欺诈的书出版后
And I remember when my first book on dishonesty came out,
我做了一个新书巡回宣传 在硅谷演讲了几次
and I did a book tour, and I gave a few talks in Silicon Valley,
一些企业家说
some entrepreneur said,
"我们是搞技术的 科技不撒谎的"
"Oh, we are in technology. Technology doesn't lie."
基本上他们都说
Right? So, and they basically said,
"我们是诚实的 只是没有机遇"
"We are honest, there's no opportunities."
我什么都没说 但是两分钟内
And I didn't say anything, but in two minutes,
他周围各种各样创业公♥司♥的人
all kind of people from the start- ups around him
开始谈论他们是怎么欺骗投资者的
started talking about how they lie to investors.
他们有很多增长的图表
And they have all these graphs of growth, right?
他们是在预测未来
I mean, they're predicting the future,
他们是把真实数字放进去
and they putting exact numbers on their--
我的想法是
And my thought was that there is this idea
在硅谷
in Silicon Valley, where you, um...
你勇敢地提出
in a very brave way,
一个遥远的宏图
put a post somewhere really far
你甚至不知道能不能实现的宏图
that you truly have no idea if you can get there.
我和Elizabeth讨论产生的感觉是
And my sense from the discussion with Elizabeth was
她是觉得
that she felt that she was basically
她是在做和其他人一样在做的事情
doing the same thing that everybody else is doing.
我们时不时见过很多
We have lots of people who are overconfident,
过度自信的人 他们中有些成功了
and from time to time, some of them work out,
我们有了盘尼西林 或者白炽灯泡
and we get penicillin, or the incandescent light bulb,
或者我们有了...
or we get...
如果你周遭的公♥司♥都是在
And if you are surrounded by companies
努力且致力于实现不可能的事
who try very hard and dedicate their lives to achieve the impossible,
那么有时他们成功了
and then sometimes they are successful in doing it,
为什么你不能成功
why can't you?
在最高阶层
At the highest level,
我们的实验室没有正确的领导层
we didn't have the right leadership in the laboratory,
我没有意识到直到
and I didn't realize until the inspection
政♥府♥视察出各种问题
that these types of issues were in place.
所以 在政♥府♥告知你
So, until the government told you
公♥司♥不合规之后
that you were really out of compliance,
- 你才知道的吗 - 对
- you didn't know? - Yeah.
当你得知你们实验室
What was your reaction when you found out
有着各种各样的违规 你的反应是什么
that you had all these violations in your lab?
很沮丧
It was devastating.
别怪任何人
Don't blame anyone else.
Elizabeth Holmes你有着公♥司♥的控股权
You have controlling shares in that company, Elizabeth Holmes.
责任就到你那里
The buck stops there.
人都会犯错 但是你必须要承认错误
People make mistakes, but you must always admit it.
我丈夫最喜欢的话:
My husband's favorite phrase:
"借口就像是屁♥眼♥ 人人都有"
"Excuses are like assholes. Everyone has one."
抱歉 你不用把那句话放进去
Sorry. You don't have to put that in there.
其中一个头条是
One of the headlines was,
"市值九十亿的公♥司♥一文不值"
"$9 Billion Company Down to Zero."
投资者和董事会成员也会读到这篇报道
And your investors and your board members are reading those same things.
这或许是最重要的问题
It's probably the most important question, I think,
任何在看节目的人都想问
anybody who's watching has about this.
- 真的可行吗 - 可以
- Does it work? - Yes.
- 你有信心吗 - 我有
- You're confident in that? - I am confident in that.
言归正传 有请Elizabeth Holmes
Without further ado, I'd like to welcome Elizabeth Holmes,
Theranos的创始人和CEO上台
founder and CEO of Theranos, to the stage.
Elizabeth没有放弃
Elizabeth did not give up.
她利用站在
She fought back by taking center stage
一个临床实验大会的讲台上的机会回击批评
at a clinical lab conference in front of all her critics.
她大胆地公开了保密已久的机器
She defiantly unveiled the machine she'd been hiding for so long.
- 迷你实验室的设计... - 她把机器称为迷你实验室
- The miniLab is designed by... - She called it "miniLab,"
好像那是一个新发明
as if it were a new invention.
这是我们公♥司♥的一个转折点
This is an inflection point for our company...
但在Theranos内部 它有着另一个名字
But inside Theranos, it had another name.
爱迪生4.0
Edison 4.0.
截止到2017年 Theranos几乎烧完了筹集到的九亿美元
By 2017, Theranos had spent virtually all of the $900 million it had raised.
将近三亿美元用于支付律师费
Nearly 300 million went to pay legal fees,
解决投资者们的诉讼
settle lawsuits from investors,
和给亚利桑那州每一位参与过血液检测的病人退款
and to refund every patient in Arizona for their blood tests.
Henry Kissinger George Shultz
Henry Kissinger, George Shultz,
甚至David Boies从董事会辞职
and even David Boies resigned from the board.
Elizabeth和Sunny分手
Elizabeth broke up with Sunny
并且将他辞退
and fired him from the company.
但是她从来没有失去对发明的力量的信念
But she never lost her faith in the power of invention.
寻找到你爱的事物
It's finding... what you love,
寻找到你生而要做的事
and finding what you're born to do,
当你寻找到了
and when you find that, whether it's...
不管是写作或是绘画
you know, writing, or painting,
或者科学 不管是什么
or science, or whatever it is, when you...
当你真的
when you really...
为之奉献了一切
give everything to that, then...
接着你就能意识到伟大的事情
then you can realize great things and...
就算是要失败一万次也要去尝试
we'll fail 10,000 times if we have to,
但是我们会在第一万零一次解决出来
but we'll figure it out on the 10,0001st, you know.
Ms. Holmes 请举起你的右手
Ms. Holmes, please raise your right hand.
你发誓你会说出事实真♥相♥ 全部真♥相♥
Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,
- 没有别的只有真♥相♥吗 - 我发誓
- and nothing but the truth? - I do.
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