Jack warner and l never discussed
我的性取向。
my sexuality whatsoever.
我为他们赚了很多钱。
L was making a lot of money for them .
只要我不破坏他们创造的形象,
As long as l didn 't destroy this image that they were creating,
这对他们来说很重要。
that was important to them .
他们创造了这个角色。
They created this persona.
你的工作就是扮演那个角色。
That was your job to be that persona.
可以说,你玩了这个游戏,
You played the game, so to speak,
如果这是他们想要的。
if that's what they want.
我确实签了合同,我也愿意这么做
L did sign a contract, and l was willing to do
无论他们想让我做什么来履行合同。
whatever they wanted me to do to fulfill that contract.
你从来没想过结婚吗?
Don 't you ever think about marriage?
一直都是,厄尼。
All the time, Ernie.
这就是我保持单身的原因。
That' s what keeps me single.
我多次想到结婚
L thought of marriage a num ber of times
因为这是对你的期望。
because it's expected of you .
当我拍电影《拉斐特·埃斯卡德维尔》时
When l did the film " Lafayette Escadrille, "
那是我第一次见到埃奇卡·乔罗。
that's when l first met Etchika Choureau .
她把我拦住了。
She stopped me dead in my tracks.
她很漂亮。
She was gorgeous.
我们很快就一拍即合。
And we hit it off immediately.
她一句英语也不会说。
She didn 't speak a word of English.
我的法语糟透了。
My French was just awful .
我不记得我们说了什么,因为
L can 't remem ber what we talked about because
他一句法语也不会说
he did not speak one word of French
我只会说三个英语单词。
and l only spoke three words of English .
我不知道我们是怎么沟通的…毫无疑问,用我们的眼睛。
L don 't know how we communicated . . . undoubtedly with our eyes.
但无论如何,我们相处得很融洽。
But in any case, we got on like a house on fire.
他是不可抗拒的。
And he was irresistible.
我通常能想出很多话要说。
L usually can think of a lot of things to say.
突然间我说不出话来。
Suddenly l can 't say anything.
我们在一起度过了美好的时光
We had wonderful times together,
我被她吸引得越来越近。
and l was drawn closer and closer to her.
是的,我听说塔布是同性恋。
Yes, l had heard that Tab was homosexual .
我想那是他对性取向进行自我反省的一段时间。
L think it was a soul-searching period of time about his sexuality.
这对他来说一定很痛苦。
It must have been very painful for him .
你知道,演员经常……总是……有两张脸。
You know, actors often . . .always. . . have two faces.
我确实感到不舒服,也有一点内疚
L did feel discomfort, and l did feel a little bit of guilt
也。
also.
但我确实认真考虑过和埃奇卡结婚。
But l did seriously think of marrying Etchika.
当然,我很荣幸被选中。
L was flattered to have been chosen , of course.
如果我要嫁给Tab
If l was to marry Tab,
那是为了爱。
it would have been for love.
我肯定不会这么做
L would inevitably have never
同意和别人分享他。
accepted to share him with someone else.
我也肯定不会嫁给他
And l certainly would not have married him
为了保护他,隐藏他的同性恋身份。
to protect him and hide his homosexuality.
我觉得泰布太好了。
L think Tab was too good of a man .
他决不会接受这样的事。
He would have never accepted such a thing.
如果可以重写的话,那将是一个可爱的故事。
It would have been a lovely story if it could have been rewritten .
她回到了巴黎。
She went back to Paris.
我只是不能对她承诺。
L just couldn 't commit to her.
和埃奇卡在一起是不对的。
It wouldn 't have been right to be with Etchika.
我觉得如果你和一个男人在一起,你就是在犯罪。
L felt that if you were with a man, you were sinning .
如果你和一个女人在一起,那你就是在撒谎。
And if you were with a woman , you 'd be lying .
托尼和我在马尔蒙城♥堡♥的泳池边相遇。
Tony and l met at the pool of the Chateau Marmont.
他当时在加州拍《友好劝说》
He was in California doing " Friendly Persuasion. "
我不想死。
l don 't want to die.
我不知道我能不能杀了任何人。
L don 't know if l could kill anyone if l tried .
他是个好演员。
He was a good actor.
解说员:托尼·珀金斯有什么
ANNOuNCER: what is there about Tony Perkins that
使美国的年轻人为他喝彩
made the young people of America acclaim him
成为他们的未来之星?
as their star of the future?
我♥干♥这行时间更久
L 'd been in the business longer,
但我尊重他演过百老汇戏剧的事实。
but l respected the fact that he' d done Broadway plays.
我觉得他很聪明
L thought he was very intelligent,
和他在一起很有趣。
and he was just fun to be with.
我们就是挺合得来的。
We just kind of hit it off.
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[MuslC- ANTHONY PERKl Ns, " MOON LIGHT swl M
我和他一起去了他的房♥间。
And l went up to his room with him .
那就是我和托尼第一次在一起的时候。
That' s when Tony and l got together for the first time.
就从那时起我们开始见面了。
And that's when we started seeing each other.
当我第一次见到泰布和托尼时,我就知道他们
When l first saw Tab and Tony l knew that they
我们不仅仅是朋友。
were more than friends.
这很明显。
It was pretty obvious.
我和他的关系很好。
L had a wonderful relationship with him .
我确实信任他。
L did trust him .
我和他在一起很舒服。
L was comfortable with him .
托尼和泰布完全不同。
Tony and Tab were totally different.
托尼来自东海岸。
Tony was East Coast.
我住在西海岸。
Tab was west Coast.
塔布很有男子气概。
Tab was very macho.
托尼非常敏感、内向。
Tony was very sensitive, introverted .
嗯,我会经常见到他。
Well , l would see him quite a lot.
他会在我家住一段时间,
And he would stay to my place, lived there for a while,
街角有个公♥寓♥。
got an apartment around the corner.
然后我会回到东部。
And then l would go back East.
我想和托尼一起去他家。
L 'd say with Tony at his place.
我知道他非常致力于成为
L knew that he was very dedicated to being
好莱坞的演员
an actor in Hollywood .
也是最有前途的明日男星
And the most promising male star of tomorrow
是优秀的年轻演员托尼·珀金斯
is the fine young actor, Tony Perkins.
TAB H hunter:托尼很在意自己的形象
TAB H uNTER: Tony was very concerned about his image
做正确的事。
and doing the right thing .
为了不让人看到他们在一起,他们会煞费苦心。
They would go to a lot of pains not to be seen together.
TAB H hunter:起初,当托尼和我出去的时候,
TAB H uNTER: At first, when Tony and l used to go out,
我们会一起出去。
we would go out together.
但他会被认出来。
But he would get recognized .
我会被认出来的。
L would get recognized .
他感到很不舒服。
He felt very uncomfortable.
我也一直这么做,因为两个年轻演员的想法
L always did too because the idea of two young actors
在一起可能会开始一些谈话。
around together might start some talk.
是的,我恋爱了。
(sl NG l NG) Yes, l ' m in love.
不要告诉任何人。
Don 't tell a soul .
TAB H hunter:娜塔莉·伍德
TAB H uNTER (sPEAKl NG): Natalie wood
我会去参加首映式。
and l would go to a premiere.
然后我们去西罗餐厅。
Then we'd go to Ciro's afterwards.
我们会被拍到跳舞。
We' d be photographed dancing.
然后我们离开,她从后门出去。
Then we would leave, and she'd go out the back door.
她会和丹尼斯·霍珀约会。
She'd have a date with Dennis Hopper.
我去看看托尼。
And l 'd go see Tony.
嘘,别让它到处流传。
(sl NG l NG) shh , don 't let it get around.
托尼和我确实有过几次约会。
(sPEAKl NG) Tony and l did go on couple dates together.
泰布、托尼和我一起出去了。
Tab and Tony and l went out together.
我想我是一个大胡子。
L suppose l was a beard .
但我很高兴能成为胡子,因为我们
But l was happy to be a beard because we
我们玩得很开心,我知道这个游戏,我们也在玩。
were having a good / l knew the game, and we were playing it.
在粉丝杂♥志♥上,会有Tab和我的照片。
L n the fan magazines there would being a picture of Tab and l .
然后下一页会有一张托尼的照片
And then in the next page there'd be a picture of Tony
我在做别的事,但绝不是只有泰布和托尼。
and l doing something else, but never just Tab and Tony.
嘘,别让它到处流传。
(sl NG l NG) shh , don 't let it get around.
我确实觉得泰布和托尼真的有感情。
L did feel that Tab and Tony had a real relationship.
我可以看到他们在一起。
L could see them together.
但这是一段痛苦的关系,
But it was a painful relationship,
至少对托尼来说是这样。
at least for Tony.
托尼更爱塔布,而不是塔布爱他。
Tony was more in love with Tab than Tab was with him .
每当泰布和托尼吵架时,
Whenever Tab and Tony got into a fight,
托尼会到我家来哭
Tony would come to my house and cry
说塔布有多刻薄
on my shoulder about how mean Tab was.
我和托尼的关系,我从来没有和任何人讨论过。
My relationship with Tony, l never discussed with anyone.
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