金属进化：重金属音乐发展史（2011）

notice a divide, like you got the rockers and the jazzers
摇滚乐的人数肯定是寡不敌众。
and the rockers were out numbered for sure.
迈克：你知道吗，我绝对是出类拔萃的，而且
Mike: You know I definitely stood out like a sore thumb and
然后有一次我们和John Myung组成了梦幻剧场
then once we formed Dream Theater with John Myung and
约翰·佩特鲁奇，我们当时在伯克利的练习室
John Petrucci, there we were in this practice room at Berklee
当其他人都在演奏爵士乐的时候，
while everyone else was playing jazz standards,
我们在即兴演奏金属和舞曲。
we were jamming metal and prog tunes.
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杰瑞：简单地说，如果拉什被齐柏林飞艇带领
Jerry: In simple terms if Rush were Led Zeppelin
遇见是的，梦剧场是金属遇见是的。
meets Yes, Dream Theater was Metallica meets Yes.
约翰：“金属乐队”遇到了“是的，就像是”乐器“。
John: Yah Metallica meets Yes, it's like Yes' instrumentation
歌♥曲的类型，不同的长度和故事
and types of songs, the different lengths and stories
但这是Metallica的金属，你知道的敏感和快节奏，
but it's Metallica's metal, you know sensibility and fast beats,
有力的击鼓，沉重的吉他即兴演奏，所有的好东西。
hard drumming, heavy guitar riffs, all that good stuff.
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山姆：这是九十年代初，这是九十年代中期
Sam: This is the early nineties, this is in the middle of the
垃圾爆♥炸♥，技艺高超，安排复杂，
grunge explosion, virtuosity, complex arrangements,
不能再时髦了。
couldn't be more out of fashion.
你为什么要签这支乐队？
Why did you want to sign this band?
德里克·舒尔曼：他们真的很棒，事实上，有一些东西
Derek Shulman: They were amazing actually, there was something
我很久没有听过音乐了，他们是
that I hadn't heard musically for a long time, they were
安排奇妙的曲目，播放得很好，尽管是在
fantastically arranged tracks, well played so even though at
当时很肮脏，全是伐木工人的衬衫
the time it was grunge and it was all lumberjack shirts
无论在哪里，我都知道当一场运动和那些
everywhere, I knew that when a movement and the people who
顺着那个运动走一条路，就会变成一个巨大的空地
follow that movement go one way there becomes a huge void in the
一种仍然非常流行的音乐的市场
marketplace for a kind of music that still very popular and
梦想剧院引领了金属迷，进步音乐迷
Dream Theater led fans of metal, fans of progressive music
走到一起并理解这一点
to come together and understand that
它们并不是相互排斥的。
they weren't mutually exclusive.
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迈克：它打开了一个全新的闸门
Mike: It opened up the floodgates for a whole new
产生类似渐进金属MUZO取向的带，
generation of like progressive metal muzo oriented bands,
你知道是好是坏，我不知道。
you know for better or for worse, I don't know.
**音乐**
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>>在梦想剧场取得成功之后，有一个
>> In the wake of Dream Theater's success, there was an
20世纪90年代的乐队爆♥炸♥，帮助建立了Prog Metal
explosion of bands in the 1990's that helped establish prog metal
作为公认的音乐风格，但会有一支90年代的乐队
as a recognized musical style but there would be one 90's band
这将彻底改变发展
that would completely transform the development
属于进步金属亚流派。
of the progressive metal sub-genre.
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>>在90年代初，垃圾成为世界上
>> In the early 90's grunge became the world's
大多数流行的硬摇滚风格和垃圾乐队都创造了一种声音
most popular hard rock style and grunge bands created a sound
这是与进步金属相去甚远的东西，然后是一个
that was the furthest thing from progressive metal and then a
乐队出现了，这支乐队受到了两位进步人士的欢迎
band came along that was embraced by both the progressive
然而，另类人群的工具是臭名昭著的
and the alternative crowds however Tool is notoriously
很难捉摸，我没能得到面试的机会
elusive and I wasn't able to secure an interview
与乐队在一起，以便对工具的位置有一些看法
with the band so to get some perspective on Tool's place
在“前卫金属”的故事里，我追踪到了他们
in the prog metal story, I've tracked down their
格莱美获奖制片人♥大♥卫·博特里尔。
Grammy award winning producer David Bottrill.
山姆：所以即使“工具”玩的是Lolrapaloooza，他们也是局外人。
Sam: So even though Tool played Lollapalooza, they are outsiders
足以与其他一切完全不同
enough to be completely different than everything else
关于Lolrapalooza法案和完全不同
on the Lollapalooza bill and to be completely different
比他们周围发生的任何事情都重要。
than anything else that's going on around them.
大卫·博特里尔：我认为每一代人都有一支乐队
David Bottrill: I think in every generation there is a band
他们能够按照自己的规则做事，而不是
that's able to do things by their own rules and not have
做同样的促销技巧
to do the same kind of promotional techniques
就像其他乐队一样，他们逍遥法外。
as other bands and they get away with it.
工具是另一代的波段，但在
Tool's that band for the alternative generation but at
同时，他们对我来说从来都不是另类乐队。
the same time they were never for me an alternative band.
山姆：你认为工具音乐有什么独特之处？
Sam: What do you think is unique about Tool 's music
在这个进步摇滚的故事里？
in this story of progressive rock?
约翰：我的意思是，当你听的时候，它是
John: I mean Tool you listen to it and it's something that
你被黑暗和它的神秘所吸引
you're drawn into by the darkness and the mystery of it
这是许多进步音乐都有的东西
and that's something that a lot of progressive music has in
很普通，但是梦剧场和昆斯里奇就是这样
common but whereas Dream Theater and Queensryche it's about that
陛下，过火的戏剧性和工具正在做这件事
majesty, the over drama and Tool is doing it in this
一种黑暗而强烈的方式，在很多方面都是一种
sort of dark intense way that in so many ways is a
比另一种方式要冷一亿倍。
hundred million times cooler than the other way.
大卫：用什么工具来做这件事，而不是看着音乐家，
David: With what Tool does it's less about look at the musician,
音乐家的能力是什么，看它的雕刻
what the musician's ability is, it's look at the sculpting of
我们写的和演奏的那首曲子。
the piece of music that we have written and played.
好像他们是演奏家，但他们是演奏家
Like they're virtuoso players but they're virtuoso players
因为这并不是他们能做多少个音符，也不是他们能做多少个音符
in that it's not so much how many notes they can do or
即使是订单真的，很多都是基调
even the order really, a lot of it is the tone
以及每个音符的字符。
and the character of each note.
杰瑞：他们在以下方面非常重要
Jerry: They were hugely important in terms of
进步的音乐，因为他们打开了左外野
progressive music because they opened up the left field side
音乐中独♥立♥的一面。那一整串进步的人
the indie side of music. That whole strand of progressive
音乐，一种独♥立♥的左旋后摇滚乐，
music, the kind of indie stroke left field post rock side,
现在它落在了PROG的旗帜下，它永远不会
it now falls under the prog banner and it would never
如果不是因为Tool的成功就已经发生了。
have happened if it wasn't for Tool's success.
山姆：他们打开了大脑的另一边。
Sam: They opened up another side of the brain.
杰瑞：他们打开了另一扇门。
Jerry: They opened up another door.
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>>当工具在清楚地将PROG金属带进
>> While Tool was taking prog metal in a distinctly
更黑暗的方向，金属乐队在20世纪90年代♥开♥始组合
darker direction, metal bands in the 1990's started to combine
带着进步情感的残暴，它是
brutality with a progressive sensibility and it was
瑞典的Messhggah将Prog金属变成了
Sweden's Meshuggah that turned prog metal
变成了有节奏的金属神像。
into a rhythmic metallic juggernaut.
山姆：所以你和工具的亲缘关系是
Sam: So the kinship you share with Tool is that
你的冒险精神的关键因素之一
one of the key elements for your adventurousness
在音乐中是有节奏的。你能给我一点感觉吗？
in the music is rhythmic. Can you give me a sense
为什么创造有趣的节奏如此重要？
of why creating interesting rhythm was so important?
托马斯·哈克：只是，我不知道，当你真的发现
Tomas Haake: It's just, I don't know, when you find that really
节奏很酷，几乎就像部落的东西，如果你听到
cool rhythm, it's almost like a tribal thing, if you hear a
很酷的节拍大多数人都会拿起它，即使他们不会
cool beat most people will pick that up even if they don't
就像这首歌♥之类的，所以不管发生了什么，
like the song or whatever so regardless of what's going on,
你还留着那玩意儿，那只是一种保留
you still got that thing, that's just kind of keeping
你知道，你可以跟着它跳舞。
it going you know, you can actually dance to it.
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约翰：他们把节奏感的整个概念
John: They've taken the whole idea of rhythmical
比任何人都做过的任何事都要冒险。
adventures beyond anything that anybody has done.
这些东西就是这样错综复杂，交织在一起
The stuff is going by that's just so interlocked and complex
这些家伙一定是数学天才。
rhythmically that these guys have to be math geniuses.
托马斯：这个乐队里所有的乐器基本上都是
Tomas: All the instruments basically in this band are
打击乐器，甚至连人声也是
percussive instruments even down to the vocals which are also
因为它不是一种旋律乐器，
very kind of charted out because it's not a melodic instrument,
基本上都是在尖叫。
it's just basically full out screaming.
**音乐**
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山姆：还有梅舒加的吉他方法。
Sam: And the guitar approach of Meshuggah with the
一种漂浮的爵士式持♥不♥同♥政♥见♥者的台词是一个非常标志性的部分
sort of floating jazzy dissident lines is a very signature part
他们的声音，你能给我讲讲吗？
of their sound, can you tell me about that?
乔恩·韦德霍恩：梅舒加在爵士乐方面有很强的基础，但是
Jon Weiderhorn: Meshuggah have a strong foundation in jazz but
不是查理·帕克那样的传统爵士乐，甚至不是
not the conventional jazz of a Charlie Parker or even a
迈尔斯·戴维斯，这更像是奥内特·科尔曼的耳光
Miles Davis, it's more like an Ornette Coleman slap to
下巴，更多的是他自♥由♥形式的精神错乱，谁知道在哪里
the jaw, it's more of his free form insanity, who knows where
它完全来自于此，但有一种兴趣在于展示
it comes from exactly but there is this interest in presenting
以新的方式音乐，以新的方式接近金属
music in a new way and approaching metal in a new way
而且你有球员能够做到这一点。
and you have players who are able to do it.
我们确实觉得我们找到了让我们感兴趣的东西
We definitely felt we were on to something that intrigued us you
我知道，当然，这些年来音乐发生了变化，但我们
know and of course the music has changed over the years but we
仍然认为自己是一支利基乐队，就像我们永远不会卖♥♥出去一样
still see ourselves as a niche band like we're never gonna sell
一百万条记录，我们知道这是事实，因为我们不知道
a million records we know that for a fact because we don't
我想写那种通常会这样的音乐，但是是的
wanna write the kind of music that usually does that, but yeah
人们仅仅用了20年的时间就开始喜欢我们的音乐。
it only took 20 years for people to star digging our music.
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>>梅舒加并不是90年代唯一的地下金属乐队
>> Meshuggah wasn't the only '90s underground metal band
这给进步性注入了极端的金属元素。
that was infusing progressiveness with extreme metal.
新球衣的迪林格逃生计划正在创造一种声音
New Jerseys' Dillinger Escape Plan was creating a sound
如此复杂以至于被贴上了数学金属的标签。