漫威616（2020）

Marvel's 616 S01E07

Part 4 July 14, 2021, 5:32 p.m.

We complement each other well.
漫画
写下你自己的奇迹
有共同作者的唯一理由是
The only reason to have co-writers is
当整体大于局部之和
when the whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
但真的我是丹的截止日期小帮手
But, really, you know, I'm Dan's deadline helper.
克里斯托斯·盖奇
《钢铁侠2020》作者
距离发行还有3周
克里斯很高兴你能参与进来
Chris, great you're onboard.
我把《钢铁侠2020》的故事概要发给你
Let me send you the overview for Iron Man 2020.
开篇是这样的第一♥期♥ 《未来就在眼前》
Starts like this. Issue 1: "The Future is Now."
亚伦·史塔克托尼的高智商反♥社♥会♥哥哥
Arno Stark, Tony's smarter and sociopathic brother,
不认为自己是"未来主义者"
does not see himself as a "Futurist."
"他一生中大部分时间里都认为自己就是未来
"For most of his life he has seen himself as the future.
那个未来就是2020年如今已然降临"
And that future was 2020. And it's here."
我的工作就是编写对话
My job is to come up with dialogue
根据我从皮特·伍兹那里拿到的画面
based on the art that I have here from Pete Woods.
皮特在处理面部表情和肢体语言方面很优秀
Pete's great with facial expressions, body language.
他很擅长讲故事
He's a great storyteller.
编写对话的方式实际上有很多种
The approach to dialogue really varies.
我总是喜欢将自己沉浸在
I always like to immerse myself into
角色的声音或过往的事迹中
what the characters sound like, what they've done before.
但如果是新的角色
But with new characters,
比如夏皮罗博士那只会说话的天才猫
like Dr. Shapiro, the genius talking cat,
我们认为他说话的方式应该像会说话的天才猫
we agree that he should sound like a genius talking cat,
但这又是什么意思呢
but what exactly does that mean?
他说的会是完整的句子吗
Is he talking in complete sentences?
他是个天才也许是吧
Well, he's a genius, so yeah, probably he is.
但他会喜欢其他猫喜欢的东西吗
But would he be into cat things?
有时我写的可能太像猫
But sometimes I've gone a little too catlike.
克里斯超爱猫他们夫妇俩有很多只
Chris loves cats. Chris and his wife have tons of cats,
他为了猫而活
and he lives for cats,
他写了很多搞笑的猫咪双关
and he was writing all these funny cat puns,
跟我描写夏皮罗博士的方式不同
and that's not the way I've been writing Dr. Shapiro.
我得向克里斯解释
I had to explain to Chris
我脑海中会说话的猫是什么样
how talking cats work in my mind.
他们不会说有关皮毛的傻乎乎的双关或笑话
They're not making silly puns or jokes about their fur.
自私自我为中心像一只猫一样思考
It's selfish. It's self-centered. It thinks the way a cat thinks.
这时我就要重新改写克里斯的内容
It's one of the times that I end up rewriting Chris,
克里斯会考虑我的改写
and then Chris looks at what
也许他也会再次改写
I rewrote and maybe he'll rewrite it again.
之后我才会觉得我们达成了一致
And I'll go, "Okay, now we're on the right path."
现在我们都像一只猫一样思考
Now we're both thinking like a cat,
而不是想着跟猫有关的事
instead of thinking about cat things.
你其实就是在帮角色发声
You're basically creating the voice for this character,
边写边想
and you're making it up as you go along.
一切必须慎之又慎
It's a tightrope to walk,
但这正是挑战有趣的部分
but it's also the fun part of the challenge.
有克里斯加入创作小组非常好
It's great to have Chris on the creative team.
克里斯很敏锐言简意赅
Chris is sharp. He communicates a lot with a few words,
我很喜欢的是
and it's always gotta nice
他的文风里总有一些讽刺的幽默
little wry twist to it, that I really enjoy.
线条勾勒完后我们就开始上色
So after the inking stage, we're ready to move on to color.
上色的过程一直在不断变化
The coloring process has evolved over the years.
我更倾向于把这当做最后的步骤
I like to think of this as a more final step.
上色时我喜欢让画面看上去更真实
When I'm coloring, I like things to look realistic.
我希望作品看上去有真实感
I want there to be a familiarity.
有了现代的工具
And with modern tools,
我们可以创作出以往无法做到的深度和效果
we can create depth and create effects that we could never have created before.
只要有机会我们都想让作品更好
So we're trying to up our game whenever we can
让画面看起来尽可能真实有趣
and make things look as realistic or as fun as possible.
随着时间的推移
As time's gone by,
漫画创作逐渐不再全凭感觉行事
comics have become less by the seat of your pants.
在故事和角色的创作方面
There's a lot more editorial
需要更多的编辑指导
direction to stories and character creation.
整个漫威宇宙都包含在一个计划中
There's a plan that covers the whole Marvel Universe.
我开始画画之时
I started out drawing...
因为漫威的创作模式
and because of the Marvel methodology,
一天还画不了一页
I could barely do a page a day.
设计故事线画出动作
It's really difficult to format the storytelling,
形成整个画面非常难
draw out the action, and make it work.
我会说"这张图到底怎么回事"
And I said, "What's wrong with this picture?"
我觉得像杰克·科比一样
I think the days of Jack Kirby creating Silver Surfer
杰克·科比
凭空创造出银影侠的时代也许已经结束了
out of whole cloth are probably over.
那时这么做是不得已而为之
It was done out of necessity,
而且在某种程度上那样的做法
and that did, to some degree,
确实让画家有一些怨言
create some resentment from the artists.
现在编辑不会接受那样松散的剧情
Today, an editor wouldn't accept that loose a plot.
他们会认为"这对画家不公平
They'd say, "This isn't fair to the artist.
你是在让画家创作剩下一半的故事"
You're asking them to come up with half the story or more."
丹是少数几个仍然使用
Dan is one of the few who still does
我们现在称为传统漫威模式创作的人之一
what we think of today as traditional Marvel Method...
丹·斯洛特
因为九十年代早期他正是在这里学习创作漫画
because he learned to write comics here in the early '90s
丹·斯洛特
那时漫威模式仍是流行的创作模式
when that was still the prevailing process.
随着漫威成为一个多领域的媒体公♥司♥
As Marvel has become a multifaceted media company,
领域内的所有人都是使用完整的脚本
everybody in every other area works full script.
现在所有部门
There's a common language that is now
都达成了共识
spoken throughout all of these divisions.
但只要漫威模式
But as long as there's still strengths
仍然有它的优势在
that are associated with the Marvel Method,
人们仍将对其给漫画创作
people will still be interested in what it can bring
带来的创意感兴趣
to the creative medium of making comics.
在漫威模式下与丹合作让我成为更好的作家
Working with Dan in the Marvel Method has made me a better writer
因为我能够说"知道吗
'cause I'm more apt to say, "You know what?
画家处理的方式
Here's an interesting approach
非常有趣
that the artist has taken with this
也许我能即兴创作一些不一样的剧情"
that maybe I can riff off of and do something differently."
在漫画的第一页这个宇宙怪物出现时
On the very first page, where this cosmic being is coming
亚伦·史塔克正从噩梦中醒来
and Arno Stark is waking up from this nightmare of it,
关于对话丹没有说具体要写什么
for dialogue, Dan didn't specify what to do.
我就想"我要怎么写"
So I was thinking, "How should I approach this?"
一开始我写的有点儿像
Initially, I was gonna be a little bit
斯坦·李经典的宇宙故事线
classic Stan Lee cosmic story line,
配上叙事的文字
with narrative captions.
丹就说 "这样也很酷
Dan was like, "That's kinda cool,
但我想让这个怪兽也有自己的声音
but I also want to give a voice to the monster
因为它看起来太棒了
'cause it's so cool looking."
他给了一个非常棒的建议
And he had a great suggestion, which was,
他说"假设这个怪物说话时
"What if the monster is speaking, and its dialogue,
对话不用气球框来表现
instead of being in a balloon,
而只是巨大的字母穿过页面"
is just giant letters across the page."
他没告诉我要写什么所以我就自己发挥
He didn't tell me what to write, so I wrote my own thing.
"我来了是时候了你杀不死终极生命体
"I come. It is time. You cannot kill the ultimate life.
你的命运毫无意义
Your destiny means nothing.
你和你的世界终将毁灭亚伦·史塔克
You and your world are forfeit, Arno Stark.
认命吧"
Accept your fate."
这声音的轰鸣
You think of it as this booming voice
就像你真实听到一样
that you feel as much as you hear.
它要表现出的是这个生物
It's supposed to convey the overwhelming power
无比强大和无限的力量
and omnipotence of this being
以及亚伦·史塔克不得不去面对的巨大障碍
and this overwhelming obstacle that Arno Stark has to face.
在漫威模式下创作更像是一种合作
With the Marvel Method, it becomes more of a collaboration.
距离发行还有10天
埃尔姆伍德公园区新泽西州
漫画创作中的无名英雄是配字员
The great unsung hero of comics is the letterer.
在漫画印刷前最后一秒
The last person who's gonna have to make
仍在做最后修改的最后那个人
the last changes to the very last second
正是乔·卡拉马尼亚
before the book has to leave house, is Joe Caramagna.
他的名字跟千层面押韵
It rhymes with lasagna.
你会想"不是吧"
You're like, "Oh, no."
他们排列文字气球框的方式
The way they lay out the lettering balloons
适时地引导读者的目光穿过画面