漫威616（2020）

Marvel's 616 S01E03

Part 1 July 14, 2021, 5:30 p.m.

我小时候
一遍遍读我手边的漫画
而后谙熟于心
我常梦想成为一个漫画家
但我也一直以为这不可能
我小时候沉迷讲故事
我总是有种强烈的愿望
想把我前一晚的想法画出来
到了早晨我就马上去画
我觉得小孩子都会画画
问题是他能坚持多久
我认为在漫画里
I would say that in comics,
画家对故事的掌控是最大的
the artist has the most control over the story.
那么仅凭一根根线条要如何来表达情绪呢
Well, how do you show emotion with just these little lines?
比如要如何真切地表达出人物正承受痛苦
Like, how do you actually show someone feeling pain?
通过人物的手势和眼球的转动
You know, hand gestures and eye movement
身体结构和肢体语言
and body composition and body language.
斯坦总是说漫威宇宙
Stan always said that the Marvel Universe
就在你身边
is the world outside your window,
他想让人们一打开漫画就感觉
that he really wants people to open up a comic
这个世界就是他们所生活的世界
and feel this is the world they live in,
他们能在角色身上找到自己的影子
and that they could find characters they could see themselves in.
漫威在全球大约有三千五百名画家
At Marvel, we have about 3,500 artists worldwide.
地球上几乎每个国家都有我们的创作者
We have creators working in almost every country on this planet,
为漫威宇宙做着贡献
contributing to the Marvel Universe.
我们不但有
Not only do we have characters
反映各行各业的角色
that reflect all people from all walks of life,
还有将自己故事
we have creators who are bringing
融入角色的创作者们
their story to those characters.
独一无二风格多样
The uniqueness, the style,
那种别具一格那种坚毅勇敢
the kind of originality, the kind of grittiness,
各种风格迥异的叙事角度
the kind of different storytelling sensibilities
都是启用世界各地的画家所带来的惊喜
that we get by using these international artists
他们让我们见识了太多别开生面的故事
opens us up to so many different kinds of stories,
与各种各样的叙事方式
so many different kinds of storytelling.
《月亮女孩》
五部曲之二
事态严"重"
我们的读者遍布世界各地
Now you have readers around the world,
小孩子们就可能受到
young kids who might be inspired
来自本土文化的作家和画家的启发
by these writers and artists who are from their culture.
天呐这位画家来自西班牙
"Oh, my God. You know, this artist is from Spain?
这位画家来自法国这位来自巴西
This artist is from France? This artist is from Brazil?
他们和我一样
They're just like me."
他们创作的漫画
They're making comic books
全世界数以百万计的人都在读
that are being read by millions of people around the world,
这是很振奋人心的事
and it's very inspiring.
哈维尔·加隆在迈尔斯·莫拉莱斯: 《蜘蛛侠》中的创作
What Javier Garrón has been doing on Miles Morales: Spider-Man,
哈维尔·加隆
画家铅笔稿制♥作♥人作品迈尔斯·莫拉莱斯《蜘蛛侠》
漫威漫画
是很不可思议的
has just been incredible.
那种规模视角
The kind of scale, the scope,
那种角色披上战衣
the power that he brings to the characters
亮出绝招投入战斗时所迸发出来的力量
when they put on their costumes, when they use their powers,
这份画功
when they go into battle,
是当今其他画家无法比拟的
is like no other artist that's working today.
娜塔莎·布斯托斯
画家铅笔稿制♥作♥人作品《月亮女孩和恶魔恐龙》
漫威漫画
娜塔莎是个魔术师
Natacha is a magician.
她画的《月亮女孩和恶魔恐龙》的风格
The style in which she draws Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur,
落在页面上是如此简约
she is so minimalistic in what she puts on that page,
但又保有巨大的信息量
but she gets across the maximum amount of information,
确实令人耳目一新
and it's really mind-blowing.
有些画家可以说是天赋异禀
There are certain artists who just, we say, have it.
他们是无畏的故事作家
Who are fearless storytellers.
不论来自哪个国家
Who, no matter where they're from,
从事哪种行业来自哪个阶级
no matter what walk of life they come from,
接受到何种文化
no matter what culture they are,
他们将自身经历的一部分
are taking a piece of themselves
融入到角色中
and putting it in those characters.
娜塔莎和哈维尔就是其中两位故事作家
Natacha and Javier are two of those storytellers.
漫威
第一季第三集
不可思议的画家们
在漫威刚起步的时候
At the start of Marvel,
大家都在同一个屋檐下
everybody lived, worked,
司马博
漫威漫画
总编辑
生活工作甚至呼吸只为创作漫画
breathed under one roof to create comics.
那时候在漫威办公室
Back in the day, in that Marvel Bullpen,
因为有太多故事要写
because they were doing so many stories,
约翰·詹宁斯
加州大学河滨分校
媒体与文化研究学教授
斯坦·李有时干脆就只想出一种情节
Stan Lee sometimes would actually come up with just a plot.
当时还上演过几次名场面他会叫所有画家
There were famous scenes of when he would just call the artists
去他办公室
into his office.
他就站在桌子上把情节演出来
He'd act out the story on his desk.
然后把故事交给杰克·柯比或史蒂夫·迪特科
He'd give it to Jack Kirby or Steve Ditko,
谁执笔就交给谁
whoever was drawing the book,
由他们来把故事画出来
and they would draw it out.
然后他们就会带来二十页的故事
And, you know, they'd come back later with a 20-page story.
有句老话叫艺术来源于生活
There's the old adage that you write what you know.
漫威宇宙刚创建时
And just when the Marvel Universe was created,
创立者是一群纽约市的白人
it was by a bunch of white guys in New York City,
他们想出来的角色
who were coming up with characters
总有几分自己的影子
that they kinda based somewhat on themselves.
他们画的就是纽约纽约的人物
They drew the New York and the characters
还有他们身边的人们
and the people that were around them.
如今再没有这样画漫画的人了
Just not how comics are made anymore.
当今这种兼具全球性与创造性的文化
This global, creative culture that we live in
西班牙巴塞罗那
以图画的方式
has brought individuality
将个性独特性与文化真实性
and uniqueness and cultural authenticity
引入了我们讲故事的方式
to the way that we tell our stories, graphically.
人们讲述着自己本土的故事
People tell stories from the place that they're at.
萨拉丁·艾哈迈德
作家《迈尔斯·莫拉莱斯蜘蛛侠》
漫威漫画
画家的人生经历背景
The life experience, the background of an artist,
他们身边的一切当下的生活影响颇深
the things that are around them now in their life, matters.
生活会影响他们的作品
It affects how they draw.
影响他们作画时的侧重点
It affects what they emphasize when they draw.
影响他们对讲故事的看法
It affects how they think about storytelling.
有一句激励作家的话我很喜欢
What I like to tell aspiring writers and artists
什么都不能阻止你
is there's no boundaries for you
最终成长为漫威的画家
to become someone who is going to work at Marvel.
当你拥有来自不同地方
When you get creators coming from different places
拥有不同人生经历的创作者
and have different life experiences...
讲述着他们对英雄的理解时
informing what they think a superhero is,
故事只会越来越好
the stories only get better.
我出生在西班牙南部一个叫
圣玛丽亚港的小镇
位于加迪斯省
那是西班牙的最南端
一个很小很美丽的渔村
我喜欢故事
我经常花好几时坐在自己房♥间里读书
家人各忙各的时候
我在读书
我从迪士尼漫画开始看
米老鼠
米老鼠
唐老鸭
唐老鸭
唐老鸭俱乐部
唐老鸭俱乐部
还有一些西班牙漫画
《绑匪》
像《绑匪》和《双胞胎历险记》
《双胞胎历险记》
我看得很快
于是我父亲定了规矩
"同一本漫画你必须读三遍
否则我不会再给你买♥♥"
哈维尔
我从很小就开始画
画了很多唐老鸭
即使你蒙住我的眼我也能很快画出唐老鸭
我记得在我十二三岁时
我们去加迪斯见我们的眼科医生
我们经过一家很大的书店
那是我第一次去这种分门别类的书店
圣玛丽亚港没有这种书店
只有首府加迪斯有
我们一进店我就跑到漫画区
我看着那些书父亲说
选一本我给你买♥♥漫画
我决定买♥♥一本超级英雄漫画
是
《末日之始》
我深深地沉迷其中因为
我学到了东西
一瞬间我见识到了各种
在加迪斯和圣玛丽亚港都从未听闻过的
信仰种族以及宗教