The Chandler family has since dismissed Victor Gutierrez's book as pure fiction.
自此钱德勒一家摒斥了维克多·古特雷斯的书 因为它纯属虚构
The Chandler's, Raymond Chandler, released a book in 2004 titled,
钱德勒家族的雷蒙·钱德勒在2004年出版了一本书
"All That Glitters".
名为《星光闪闪》
Within days of Jordan Chandler and his family
在乔迪·钱德勒和他家人
settling his 1993 lawsuit against Michael Jackson,
与迈克尔·杰克逊达成和解的几天内
I received a call from Jordan's uncle.
我接到了一个来自乔迪叔叔的电♥话♥
He wanted to do a book
他想出一本书
in which he would describe in detail the allegation of molestation against Michael Jackson,
详细描述针对迈克尔·杰克逊的变童指控
and he said that Jordan's father had given him
并且 他表示乔迪的父亲
all the information he needed for the book,
已经给了他成书所需的全部信息
and believed it was outside the bounds of the confidentiality agreement,
且他相信这些内容 不受保密协议的约束
because he would be the author.
因为他会是此书的作者
After careful examination between
经过细致研究比多年
'Michael Jackson Was my Lover' and 'All That Glitters': these two books-
在《迈克尔·杰克逊曾是我的恋人》和《星光闪闪》两书之间
we have found many instances of consistent storytelling between the two books,
我们发现了大量雷同的叙述
especially from Evan's point of view.
尤其是从埃文的观点 出发的内容
At times, the stories are even word-for-word the same.
有时两边的故事 甚至一字一句都完全相同
Truthfully speaking, the only differences between the two books are the
实话实说 两本书仅有的差异在于
supposed sexual acts between Michael Jackson and Jordan Chandler.
所谓的迈克尔·杰克逊 和乔迪·钱德勒之间性行为的描述
Now when you look at some of these parallel stories even deeper,
现在当你更仔细地阅读这些雷同片段时
Gutierrez's book, which preceded the Chandler's book by 7 years,
即便古特雷斯的书比钱德勒的书早七年出版
even sources some stories directly to Evan.
却仍然有直接引用埃文的段落
So how would it be possible for Gutierrez to tell these confirmable stories first?
古特雷斯如何能够事先讲述这些言之凿凿的故事呢
'Michael Jackson Was my Lover' also featured many documents of the Chandler family
《迈克尔·杰克逊曾是我的恋人》还包含了很多钱德勒家的文件
That could only have come from Evan.
这些资料只可能来自于埃文的提供
This proves that Victor Gutierrez, a man who has an agenda for pushing Michael Jackson as a pedophile,
这证明古特雷斯这人是蓄意将迈克尔·杰克逊塑造成变童
a man who had coached people to lie against Michael Jackson,
并且教导他人撒谎污蔑迈克尔·杰克逊
was in fact connected to Evan Chandler, the father of the first accuser.
而他实际上与第一个指控者的父亲埃文·钱德勒有关联
Ever since the Michael Jackson child molestation scandal broke,
自从迈克尔·杰克逊猥亵儿童丑闻曝光后
we've gotten a constant stream of calls and letters from people
我们经常收到人们源源不断的电♥话♥还有信件
making dubious claims about the singer.
里面有人会对这位歌♥手发出可疑的指控
Frankly, we ignore most of them,
实话说我们会选择忽略绝大部分
but when I heard the facts of this story,
但是当我听到这个故事的事实部分时
I just had to go to Canada and check it out myself.
我必须要亲自去一趟加拿大 去证实这个故事的真实性
The journalist, Diane Dimond, got a tip from her source
记者黛安·戴蒙德收到了一个消息
that a child had been molested by Michael Jackson.
宣称迈克尔·杰克逊亵了一个孩子
This child lived in Toronto, so she flew to
这个孩子住在多伦多 所以她飞到当地
Toronto with authorities to interview the boy.
在当局警♥察♥的陪伴下 访问了这个孩子
I'd like to make a confession about something that happened between me and Michael Jackson.
我想坦白 我和迈克尔·杰克逊之间发生的事
And this child proceeded to tell wild stories with vivid details.
然后这个孩子开始说出了 充斥着生动的细节的极其疯狂的故事
He started just touching like our stomach and things,
他只是摸摸我的肚子
like he'd rub our stomach and then he-he'd get lower and then,
他揉了揉我的肚子然后 他的手越伸越下
that's when I started saying like, "What are you doing?"
我开始奇怪 他要做什么
He said, "It's okay, don't worry. Bodies are meant to be touched."
他说 "没事的别担心 身体本来就是应该被触摸的"
He showed me this place like a saddle shop,
他带我到一个马鞍店
where he said he-- he said he gets stuff for his animals there.
他说他在这为他的动物买♥♥东西
I don't know what he got but-
到今天我都不知道他买♥♥了什么
- They're gonna' think you're making it up. - Yeah I know, I know.
- 如果他们都觉得你在胡编乱造呢 - 我不管 你知道吗
But I don't care about his money, he can keep it.
我对他的钱没有兴趣 他可以留着
His eyes are big and they're- they're dark, like cavernous
他的眼睛 很大 很黑 就像窝一样深
-like the sockets go right in, you know?
就像窝一样深
We showed the boy several photographs,
我们给这个男孩展示了一些照片
some of them were of Neverland employees,
其中有一些是梦幻庄园员工的照片
and he was able to identify each and every one of them.
他都能清楚的辨认出每个人来
Yeah, that's him.. that's him.
对那是他有着…就是他
I found him fairly believable too.
我感觉这男孩的故事也非常的可信
During police interviews, the child broke down
在警♥察♥的访谈期间 男孩情绪一度崩溃
and confirmed that he had been coached.
承认他是被训练成这样说的
At the end, it turned out he was coached by Rodney Allen.
最后发现他是被罗德尼·艾伦训练的
About Neverland? About Hayvenhurst?
关于梦幻庄园 关于海文赫尔斯特庄园
About Disneyland? About Michael Jackson's body-
关于迪士尼乐园 关于迈克尔·杰克逊的身体
Where did he get all that information?
他从哪里得知这些信息的
He got it from me.
他都是从我这得来的
This kid is an A-1 Number One liar.
这孩子是一个顶尖的撒谎高手
Professional.
专业的
Rodney Allen is currently serving a life sentence
罗德尼·艾伦是一个童犯 被判了无期徒刑
in a Canadian prison for pedophilia.
现在还在加拿大监狱里服刑
Paula, a Michael Jackson investigator, has confirmed
一个叫宝拉的迈克尔·杰克逊的调查员
through letters to Rodney Allen that
从罗德尼·艾伦的信中 确定罗德尼·艾伦
Rodney Allen was in fact connected to Victor Gutierrez.
是认识维克多·古特雷斯的
In 1999, there was a blog post floating around the internet
1999年有个网上的博客
that was said to be written by Rodney Allen,
传言是出自罗德尼·艾伦之手
but no one took it seriously at the time
但当时没人认真对待它
Because there was no evidence as to who authored the post.
因为并没有证据证明 这是谁发表的博客
Paula sent this blog post to Rodney Allen
宝拉将这博客发给了罗德尼·艾伦
and Rodney Allen has since confirmed that he in fact did write this confession,
自此罗德尼·艾伦就确认了 那的确是他写的自白
and in the confession, this is what he talked about in regards to the Jordan Chandler case.
在自白中 他所提到了有关乔迪·钱德勒的案子
This obviously doesn't prove anything concrete,
这很明显不是什么实锤
But it's still interesting that
但依然十分有趣的是
Rodney Allen, a man who was connected to Victor Gutierrez,
罗德尼·艾伦也是一个与维克多·古特雷斯有关联的人
a man who has a history of coaching kids to lie against Michael Jackson had that to say.
他有教唆孩子 撒谎 抹黑迈克尔·杰克逊的黑历史
The King of Pop chocks up a big win!
流行音乐之王取得了一个重大胜利
A jury has awarded Michael Jackson a whopping $2.7 million
陪审团裁定迈克尔·杰克逊 因诽谤诉讼获偿巨额赔款270万美元
for a defamation lawsuit he filed against freelance writer, Victor Gutierrez.
被告人是自♥由♥作家维克多·古特雷斯
Gutierrez claimed on a tabloid TV show that he'd seen a
古特雷斯在一个八卦电视节目中说
video of Jackson having sex with a boy.
他看到过杰克逊与男孩做♥爱♥的录像
This guy made it up out of thin air maliciously to hurt Michael,
这个男人是在凭空捏造 恶意伤害迈克尔
and he told anybody and- anybody and everybody who would listen.
而且 他告诉任何和所有对此感兴趣的人
When it came time to prove it in this court,
但是等他上庭时
he couldn't prove it.
他却不能证明他所说的
Years later, in the early 2000s,
几年之后 在2000年初
Victor Gutierrez again started spreading rumors regarding sexual abuse.
古特雷斯又开始散播谣言 关于政客在智利猥亵男孩
This time around the involvement of politicians in Chile.
其中有一个男孩宣称
A boy claimed he participated in these sexual activities
他参与了这些性行为
and was able to describe stories with vivid details.
并且能够描述事件经过还包含生动的细节
It was later proven in court that the boy had never met this politician.
然而在之后的庭审中发现 这名男孩其实从未见过这位政客
While questioned, the boy could not even remember the politician's name
盘问的时候这名男孩甚至都不能记住这名政客的名字
and had to be prompted by Victor Gutierrez off camera.
需要维克多·古特雷斯在镜头外提示
It was later discovered that Gutierrez had paid this child around 10 to 20 thousand pesos.
随后还发现 古特雷斯曾经付给这男孩大约1-2万比索
There were no other witnesses, nor proof,
没有其他证人 也没有证据
just the words of a boy who were connected to Victor Gutierrez,
只有一个跟古特雷斯有关联的男孩的话
the same man who was connected to Evan Chandler.
而古特雷斯正是那个与埃文·钱德勒有关联的人
And we also weren't- and I've been very transparent.
我们从来不是… 我非常坦白地说
We weren't best friends. We weren't very close.
我们不是好朋友 并不是非常亲密
I kept, you know, him at arm's length
你知道的 我跟他总是保持有一定距离
because I knew who he was, and I didn't really know how to deal with that.
因为我知道他是谁 而且我不知道怎么应对
And he was very close with, I remember one other person in the program
他跟另外一个 在同一个项目中的人很熟
who also was sort of like a pop R&B guy.
那个人 好像也是玩流行R&B音乐的
I believe he did production, and he also was a big Michael Jackson fan.
我记得他有制♥作♥唱片 他也是一个迈克尔·杰克逊的超级粉丝
So I mean, of- when I think about the people in the program that he-
所以我想说 我看到他跟项目里的人
I saw him with, the people that he did surround himself with
我看到 他们经常结伴而行
were people who were Michael Jackson fans, you know?
同时他们也都是迈克尔·杰克逊的粉丝
I was told that at a party, um,
别人还给我说过 曾经在一个派对上
Jordan you know, played all of Michael's music,
乔迪放了很多迈克尔的音乐
danced like him, did all of his moves, um,
并且跳舞跳得跟他一样 会跳迈克尔的所有动作
and that his apartment was almost sort of a shrine to Michael,
而且他的公♥寓♥ 就像迈克尔杰克逊圣地一样
that there was a lot of different like fan memorabilia.
有很多不同的歌♥迷纪念品收藏
It doesn't surprise me that people are scared to come out.
人们害怕站出来我并不惊诉
because um, you know, I have some flexibility I work for myself.
而我的工作有弹性我为我自己工作
If I were in a corporate job, I might be scared too
如果我在公♥司♥上班 我也许也会感到害怕
because we don't really know the-
因为我们真的不知道
we don't really know who the powers that be are behind 'Leaving Neverland',
我们不知道《逃离梦幻岛》的幕后大佬是谁
And, you know, to speak out at this point,
你知道如果这时候站出来说话
might be cause a conflict of interest for somebody
可能会损害某些人的利益
if they're working with a big corporation, you know?
如果他们在一家大公♥司♥工作
It could have really harmed their career, so I'm
这可能真的会伤害他们的职业生涯
not surprised that people would be afraid to come out.
所以我并不惊人们不敢站出来
So after the settlement,
所以和解之后
Michael is married to Lisa Marie Presley and
迈克尔娶了丽莎·玛丽·普雷斯利
goes to work on an album called 'HIStory'.
并为一张名叫《历史》的专辑工作
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