原初真相：迈克尔杰克逊1993年案件最新证据浮现（2019）

He's basically naked!
他基本上是裸着的
upper body is basically naked, he’s got no underwear on,
他上身几乎裸着 没有穿着内♥裤♥
right next to Michael Jackson.
他站在迈克尔·杰克逊右边
I mean, it's disgusting.
我觉得这很恶心
My name is Taj Jackson. I'm the nephew of Michael Jackson.
我是塔吉·杰克逊 是迈克尔·杰克逊的侄子
You know, and I know it's not gonna be put to rest,
我们都知道这是不会消停的
but I hope that it's really put to rest
但是我希望这可以真的结束
because these pictures have been circulating.
因为那样的说辞
These pictures are annoying that they're circulating.
一直伴随着这些照片在不断流传
You know, we sued one of the tabloids because they
真的非常烦人 你知道的
said that they were child pornography and we had them retract that,
我们起诉了小报 因为他们说那些照片是儿童色情物品
because that's not what they were. They were for an album.
我们让他们收回了那句话 因为它们根本不是
They were for a single cover, "Why".
这些照片是为了一张专辑"为什么"拍摄的
My uncle was doing the music video for "Stranger in Moscow"
迈克尔当时正在拍摄"莫斯科的陌生人"的音乐录影
At the time and we came down to visit him.
我和我的兄弟们去探班
but also, we were “Let's take this opportunity since we're all here,
我们当时想既然来了 就让我们抓住这个机会
Let's do the 'Why' photoshoot as well."
一起把"为什么"专辑的封面给拍了
There was wardrobe. There was a camera director. There was makeup.
反正各种 服装 摄像 导演 化妆师 一应俱全
We wanted to do something edgy for our "Why" photoshoot.
我们想为我们的"为什么"摄影做点前卫的事
We wanted the guys and the girls and we and we thought we were "too cute"
我们想让男孩女孩们觉得... 你知道的 我们觉得3T组合
You know a 3T like too "saccharine"
太偏向青春偶像风格了
And we wanted to have some “edge” some- you know? Something to us.
所以我们想尝试一下对于我们来说更加前卫的风格
It's frustrating because this is what they do all the time in this way.
这真的很让我郁闷 他们一直都在用这种方式歪曲事实
Luckily I was involved in it, you know? This was my younger brother, TJ.
幸运的是 是我"参与"了其中 要知道 我的弟弟TJ
If he was here, he'd be even probably more upset than I am right now.
如果是他遇到这种事 他大概会比我现在更难过
Like it's implied that TJ was clueless or TJ didn't know what was going on.
他们暗示着TJ对此一无所知 或者TJ不知道到底在发生什么
TJ was very aware of what was going on. TJ wanted him to go farther!
TJ非常清楚在发生什么 而且他还想要尺度更大一点
I was uncomfortable taking off my shirt, and so I did have to take off my shirt.
我感到把我的衣服脱下来不自在 所以我没必要把我的衣服脱下来
It was never like he said, "No, you take off your shirt and you do this and that."
这绝对不是像他说的"不行你要把你的衣服脱下来"
It was whatever we wanted to do because we wanted to be edgy.
而是我们想怎么做就怎么做 因为为了变得更前卫
And it worked because people are talking about it!
并且这也成功了 因为人们都在谈论
Now, unfortunately, they're trying to dirty it, but it was edgy.
但是现在不幸的是他们想要站污这事 但那的确很前卫
He mentioned that you know, Michael's laughing in that- because we were joking!
他提过 迈克尔在笑 但那是因为我们在开玩笑
We, you know, for us, we wanted to do something edgy!
要知道 对我们来说 我们想要做一些前卫的事情
But we always laughed when we were around my uncle
但我们在叔叔身边时 我们总是会笑
and he laughed when he was around us, and so
他在我们身边时也会笑
that should tell you something: that there was no tension.
这些应该能让你们知道 我们那时是很放松的氛围
You're not seeing our faces like "We don't want to do this" or whatever
你们也没看到我们脸上有不情愿的或者别的表情
because we were pushing him to do this.
因为是我们促使他去做这个事情的
It really- it makes me feel angry to be honest, um,
说实话 这真的让我感到生气
Just because that photo shoot was a great memory for me
因为拍摄这组照片对我来说是一段很美好的回忆
and to hear someone try and dirty it up in that way?
但是有人想用航脏的眼光去看待
The way they're trying to twist it as if my uncle came and said,
他们曲解事实的方式 就好像是
"Hey, I'm just gonna start ripping off clothes." That's farthest from the truth.
我叔叔走过来然后对我们说"嘿 我要开始把你衣服扯掉了"
There was plenty of people there,
这真是颠倒黑白 远非事实
You know, that witnessed everything that would back up
要知道那个时候有很多人都在 他们目睹了所有
you know- my story or my uncle's story if he was alive.
他们会作证我的说法 或我叔叔的说法 如果他还活着的话
But at the same time this guy who
但是这个造谣者基本上
basically is just guessing what happened at the photo shoot by pictures.
就是通过照片 在猜拍摄照片的时候发生了什么
What gets me upset is just people- outside people
让我难过的是 外界许许多多的人们
judging my uncle without knowing the scenario.
在不了解实情的情况下 评判我的叔叔
One thing I do want to say is you know,
还有一点 我非常想说 就是
people like that that just, you know, on the outside,
像这样的人 这样的圈外人
And he's supposed to be a professional?
他本应该是专业的
And you hear him. He sounds giddy, you know?
但是他说话听起来很轻浮
He sounds like someone that is just spiteful and hateful
他听起来似乎带着恶意或者恨意
and it's those kind of people like-
而这种人仿佛想
they need something in their life. They really do, you know?
需要从人生中覆取一点什么 真的
Leave our family alone.
离我的家人远点吧
You never done things that was missing in your life?
他有很多没做过的事情 就像他生命里少了些东西
You just go back to do it, and Mike just like to just have great fun
所以他就去补做了 这让迈克非常快乐
and the stuff he liked to do, adults don't like doing that.
而且他喜欢做的事情 成年人都不喜欢做
I think he had more fun hanging out with just everyday people
我认为 他和那些不认识的普通人出去玩的时候 会更开心
that he didn't even know who they were
他不管他们是谁
Either they were local people or touristsor whatever
不管他们是本地人 或者是游客 或者别的什么人
and he didn't even know who they were, you know?
他根本不认识这些人 他去见那些人
He'd just meet ‘em and talk to ‘em,
和他们说话来更了解他们
get to know a little bit: “Hey you wanna come out to the ranch?"
他会对他们说"嘿你想要来我的庄园吗"
You were invited to Michael Jackson's Neverland before.
你曾被邀请过去迈克尔·杰克逊的梦幻庄园吗
I mean, it was amazing. I've been there, probably 8 times.
是的 那真的是太棒了 我大概去了八次吧
8 times?
八次
Yeah! I spent the night.
是的 我还在那过夜
The first time I ever went was actually the time I spent the night.
我第一次去的时候就是我第一次过夜的时候
He walked us through his entire house, um,
他带我们逛了他的整个住♥宅♥
his bedroom, his memorabilia room, bathrooms,
他的卧室 他的纪念品陈列室 浴室
every- every place in his house.
他房♥子里的每一个房♥间
We were like, telling him how beautiful it was, and he was like,
我们和他说这太漂亮了 然后他说
"You've never been here before?!"
你们从来都没来过吗？
and my friends and I looked at each other like,
然后我和我的朋友互相对视 然后说
"Nope, we sure haven't, like- when would we have been here?"
不 我们当然没有 我们哪有来过呢
So he would invite- if there were fans sitting outside,
因此他会邀请那些站在外面的粉丝
he would, like, see us and tell Violet, who was security, to let us in
他会见我们 然后告诉他的保镖瓦奥莱特 让我们进去
and he would let us do whatever.
他还充许我们在里面做任何事情
So that speaks volume to just how easily he trusts people
所以这充分说明了他有多容易相信别人
to like- come into his life, even.
甚至是让别人进入他的生活
Yeah, I mean unfortunately,
是的 不幸的是
he trusted a lot of people he shouldn't have trusted in his life.
在他的生命中 他相信了太多 他本来不应该相信的人
They go, "oh you slept in the same bedroom as him".
他们说"噢 你和他睡在同一个卧室"
It's like I don't think you understand. Michael Jackson's bedroom is 2 stories,
我觉得你根本不懂 迈克尔·杰克逊的卧室有两层
And it has like- like 3 bathrooms and this and that,
还有三个浴室 还有别的什么
so when I slept in his bedroom, yeah
所以我睡在他卧室 是的
but you have to understand the whole scenario,
但你们必须要明白整个情况
and the thing is with Michael
然后迈克尔的问题是
is that he's not very good at explaining himself,
他不善于为自己解释
and he never really has been.
而且他也从来没有 为自己真正解释过
Michael Jackson, his bedroom was 2 stories
迈克尔·杰克逊他的卧室是两层的
so when you first walked in, I didn't realize at first it was his bedroom
所以当我第一次走进去的时候 我竟没有意识到那是他的卧室
because his bed wasn't there on the bottom floor.
因为他的床不在底层
It was kind of- very cluttered with a lot of things.
卧室里凌乱地摆放着很多东西
I like- actually sat on his bed and he was just kind of
我曾经真的坐到了他的床上
just talking about Neverland to us, and
而他呢 就和我们谈论关于梦幻庄园的事
that was surreal.
那段经历就像做梦一样
Michael was going to Miami,
迈克尔当时将要去迈阿密
so myself and a couple of friends flew in from Europe
所以我自己和几个从欧洲飞来的朋友
to spend some time with him.
和他共度一段时光
And before he had to go,
还有在他不得不出发前
he told us that we could stay
他告诉我们可以留下来
And that we can enjoy Neverland as much as we wanted.
那样我们可以尽情地享受梦幻庄园
While the ranch manager took us to the main house,
当庄园的经理带我们到主屋的时候
he told me that Michael had said to give us the Royal Treatment,
经理告诉我迈克尔已经说了 要给我们皇家礼遇
And we sure got the Royal Treatment.
而我们也的确是享受到了皇家待遇
When we went up to the main house,
当我们走上去主屋时
all the staff were lined up on the stairs welcoming us,
所有的工作人员都已经列队排站在楼梯上欢迎我们
and they told us that there-
而且他们告诉我们说
we could move around as freely as we wanted to.
我们可以随心所欲地自♥由♥走动
There were no places that were off-limits.
没有地方是被禁止进入的
And this was 16 years ago,
还有那已经是16年前的事
so it's been a while, but I just remember like-
所以已经有一段时间了 但我还记得...
being completely in shock the whole time.
记得自己当时全程都完全处于吃惊的状态
Most people are just-
大多数人都很难相信的是
I can't believe that he let us in his house like that.
迈克尔就那样让我们进到他的住♥宅♥里
Several weeks later, after we'd already come back to classes after 9/11,
9/11事件几周后我们重返课堂
I was working as a work-study in the music department.
我当时在音乐系以半工读的形式工作
So, he came in to register for private guitar lessons.
钱德勒进来报名私人吉他课
He always carried his guitar with him everywhere he went
不管他走到哪里 他都一直随身携带着自己的吉他
and um, we had a nice conversation.
我们交谈得还算愉快
He remembered me from our program meeting.
他还记得我们的项目会议上的我
We had a little chat, exchanged pleasantries,
我们相互说了几句打趣的话
and he gave me his form,
他把他的表格给了我
and as I went to register him for these private lessons,
当我去帮他登记这些私人课程时