摇滚总统-吉米卡特（2020）

那时，我们在俄勒冈州和华盛顿州
and Washington at that time,and so we probably drew,
很受欢迎，我们可能会吸引了，
I don't know,15,000 people out there.
我算不清，外面大概有15000人。
Something like that,but it was outside.
差不多吧，但确实是在室外进行的。
[Guitar strumming]
[吉他弹奏声]
（《他去了巴黎》吉米.巴菲特）
- he went to Paris looking for answers
他去了巴黎，寻找困扰他
to questions that bothered him so
的那些问题的答案
- Jerry brown was ahead of me before Jimmy Buffett came,
-在吉米·巴菲特来之前，杰瑞·布朗领先于我，
but with Jimmy Buffett's help,I came out quite well.
但在吉米·巴菲特的帮助下，我出场的表现得很好。
[Cheers and applause]- Thank you very much.
[欢呼与掌声]-非常感谢你们。
[Indistinct]
[人群的声音]
- Thank you.
-谢谢你们。
[Indistinct]
[群众声音]
Thank you.
谢谢你们。
[Cheers and applause]
[欢呼与掌声]
The rock and roll aspect of the campaign...First of all,
摇滚乐对于选举的影响...首先，
it was about raising money.
它可以募集资金。
Second, it was about trying to reach,
其次，对我来说，这是一种尝试，
to me, a younger generation with somebody
用一些足够时髦的人来
who was hip enough to get it.
接触年轻一代选民。
[Folk music]
[民谣音乐]
[Cheers and applause]
[欢呼与掌声]
- "Rolling stone" had really first made its Mark
-《滚石》在1972年大选中真正
in national politics in the '72 election,
在国家政♥治♥上留下了自己的印记，
when mcgovern ran against Nixon.
当时是麦戈文与尼克松竞争。
Hunter Thompson, of course,
亨特·汤普森当然会
（以"漫骂""辛辣"“幽默”著称的美国作家，记者）
got the presidential election as kind of a beat,
对那场总统选举大加抨击，
and in 1974, '75,
而他在1974年-75年间，
he was in Georgia and heard Jimmy Carter speak
他在佐治亚州听吉米·卡特
at something called law day.
在一个叫做“法律日”的活动上的演讲。
- Hunter Thompson was sitting in the back of the audience,
-亨特.汤普森坐在听众的后面，
because he had come with Ted Kennedy,
因为他是和泰德.肯尼迪一起来的，
（肯尼迪家族四兄弟的老四，当了46年的参议员）
and he was going outside,putting wild Turkey whiskey
他走到外面，给他的冰茶杯里加了一些
in his iced tea glass,
波本威士忌，
but he listened to my speech
但他听了我的演讲后，
and the speech made a great impression on him.
给他留下了很深的印象。
- Well, I saw him push Teddy Kennedy around down
-后来，我曾在佐治亚的亚特兰大市和雅典县见到他
（亨特.S.汤普森，“刚佐”新闻主义开创者，记者。作家）
in Athens and Atlanta.
摆布泰德.肯尼迪。
（亨特.S.汤普森，“刚佐”新闻主义开创者，记者。作家）
I had never seen Kennedy pushed around anywhere,
我以前从未看到过肯尼迪们会受人摆布，
（亨特.S.汤普森，“刚佐”新闻主义开创者，记者。作家）
in any room,and I was stunned.
不论在什么地方，我都惊呆了。
I'd never seen a politician do that before,
我从没见过哪个政客这么做过，
and he just pushed Teddy aside,like "out of my way.
他把泰德推到一边，好像在说“别挡我的路”。
You know, I've got work to do.Move aside."
你知道吗，我有正经事要做，让一边去。”
And Kennedy was stunned.I was stunned.
肯尼迪老四惊呆了。我也惊呆了。
[Blues music]
[蓝调音乐]
滚石杂♥志♥封面，左边那条标题：“吉米.卡特和信念升华”，
副标题：“对恐惧与勉强的保证”，
作者：亨特.S.汤普森博士
滚石杂♥志♥封面，左边那条标题：“吉米.卡特和信念升华”，
副标题：“对恐惧与勉强的保证”，
作者：亨特.S.汤普森博士
- Hunter Thompson spent three nights with me
-亨特.汤普森和我谈了三个晚上
and rosalynn at our house,
而我老婆罗莎琳在家，
and he became a very close personal friend of mine.
他成了我非常亲密的私人朋友。
I remember one time during the campaign,
我记得在竞选德那段时期，
since we'd had a previous relationship,
由于我们是老关系了，
he thought he could have first crack
他认为他可以加塞，
at getting an interview with me,
对我进行一次采访，
and Jody Powell,my press secretary,
我的新闻秘书，乔迪.鲍威尔，
kept putting hunter off and said,
把亨特挡住，并说，
"you have to get in line."
“你必须要排队。”
And so hunter Thompson got drunk one night in a hotel
于是，亨特.汤普森有天晚上在酒店喝醉了，
and he gathered up newspapers and dumped some trash cans
他找来很多报纸，塞进乔迪.鲍威尔家的垃圾桶里，
in front of Jody Powell's door and set it on fire.
并一把火把垃圾桶给烧着了。
[Laughs]
[笑声]
[Funky music]
[放克音乐]
- Jimmy Carter comes along,hunter endorses him.
-吉米·卡特出现了，亨特支持他。
So naturally, he had young people
很自然地，年轻人们
start to gravitate to him,
都倾向于卡特，
and he's being supported by some of the most famous
他得到了摇滚界一些最著名、
and important people in the rock world,
最重要的人的支持，
namely the Allman brothers,
说起来有，阿尔芒兄弟，
and they spoke in the words and language
他们用那时摇滚年代的“词汇”，甚至是
of the rock and roll era.
“语言”进行交流。
- One thing in Carter's association with rock music,
-卡特和摇滚乐联♥系♥之一
（彼得.康隆，前竞选筹款负责人）
that was the music of change,and, you know...
在于那些异类的音乐，你知道…
And dissidents and hippies and pot smokers.
它们都是由那些持♥不♥同♥政♥见♥者，嬉皮士和吸大♥麻♥的人写的。
There was a risk, politically, to that,
从政♥治♥家角度来看，这有点儿冒险，
and it didn't matter to him.
但他不在乎。
[Rock music]
[摇滚音乐]
新时代周刊封面
吉米卡特在摇滚圈的朋友，梅肯县的音乐人，菲尔.瓦尔登，
“你能帮助吉米卡特崛起，但你能拯救格里格.阿尔芒的堕落吗？”
- Well it was, uh,you know...These were times
-确实是，呃，如你所知...在那个年代
when some of the guys were experimenting pretty heavily
他们中的一些家伙们是乐于尝试
with various drugs,
各种毒品的，
and, uh, gregg had a connection
像，呃，格雷格就联♥系♥过
to get pharmaceutical cocaine from a pharmacist,
药剂师，想搞到药用可♥卡♥因♥，
and there was a middleman,and they were all caught,
这件事还有中间联♥系♥人，他们都被抓了，
and then they turned to gregg and said,
警方对格雷格说，
"all right, we're going to offer you immunity,
“没事，我们会帮你脱罪，
"which means you have to testify.
“但你要作证检举。
"If you don't testify,
“如果你不作证检举，
"you have to go sit in jail
“你就要去坐牢，
until you're ready to testify."And that was really tough.
除非你出庭，作控方证人。”这真是很麻烦的事情。
You can imagine the position gregg was in.
你可以想象格雷格当时的处境。
He didn't want to rat on his friend.
他不想出♥卖♥♥♥他的朋友。
You know, he had to testify,
他必须出庭作证，
uh, or otherwise he would have
否则，他就得在牢里
just been sitting behind bars for god knows how long.
蹲多久，只有天知道。
- She don't lie,she don't lie
她不撒谎，她不撒谎
she don't lie cocaine
她不会对可♥卡♥因♥撒谎
The trial begins.Gregg testifies.
审判开始了。葛雷格作证。
Um, it's just a tumultuous time,
这是一个混乱的时期
and not only the drug bust, okay?
不仅仅是抓毒贩，知道吗？
At that point,the allmans had been together
从那以后，阿尔芒兄弟就一起
for quite some time.
消沉了很长时间。
It...i think there was just a toll taken,
它……我想这只是一个代价，
and it was time for a break.
是时候消停一下了。
- As an example of...Of how compassionate Jimmy Carter was,
-从这件事情上能看出，吉米.卡特多么富有同情心，
uh, while the rest of the Allman brothers
呃，就在阿尔芒乐队其它成员
turned on gregg for his testimony in court,
指责格雷格出庭作证的时候，
uh, Jimmy never did.
呃，吉米.卡特却没有。
I mean, he thought this was the moment
我想说，他认为这是帮助一个跌倒的人
to help somebody when they're down.
最好的时机。
- Well, can you imagine?
-那么，你能想象吗？
You know, he's running for the office
你看，他正在竞选公职，
of the presidency of the United States.
争夺美国总统宝座。
He could have easily said,"look, sorry, gregg.
他可以轻松地说，“对不起，格里格。
"Sorry, capricorn.Sorry, Allman brothers band.
“对不起，摩羯座唱片公♥司♥。对不起，阿尔芒兄弟乐队。
"You know, this is too big of a risk for me to take.
“你们要理解我，这件事让我冒很大风险。
"I can't do it.
“我爱莫能助。
"I'm gonna...I'm gonna go this way.
“我要离...我要离开你们。
You know, love you guys, but good-bye."
你们要理解，我爱你们，但是得说再见了。”
But he didn't do that.
但是，他没有这样做。
He didn't turn his back on any of us.
他没有背弃我们任何人。
- I had some problems with drugs when I was a kid.
-我小时候也有过吸毒的问题。
My father helped me.
我的父亲就帮过我。
He made me his driver in the campaign.
他竞选时让我当他的司机。
I don't think he judges people.
我不认为他会评判别人。
I really don't believe that he...That he is a judge
我真的不相信他会…他会对你个人的行为
of what you do personally,and that he cares.