世界头号通缉犯（2020）

如果你想给我们提供信息
if you're gonna tell us something,
就要提供全部信息
you gotta tell us everything.
如果我们抓到你说谎 谈判就破裂
And if we catch you lying, the deal's off.
他们达成了协议...
They make a deal...
给美国缉毒局提供信息
to give the DEA information about...
锡纳罗亚贩毒集团的敌手的行踪
the whereabouts of the enemies of "El Cartel de Sinaloa."
和美国政♥府♥谈判
Talk to the US government.
给他们你敌手的信息
And give them information about your enemies.
他们会将你搁置一旁
And they're gonna... keep you aside.
继续做生意
To continue doing business.
事情确实是这样发生的
It happened, kind of, that way,
但不能说是被他们利用了
but it wasn't set up, if you will.
一个坏人想干掉另一个坏人...
If one bad guy wants to give up another bad guy...
这正是所有线人做的工作 不是吗
That's what informants do all along, right?
如果我们能从一个坏人那里 拿到信息
If we can take information from one bad guy
去干掉另一个坏人 让他出局
and take another bad guy out of business,
这是坏事吗
is that a bad thing?
他们聊了几个小时
They spoke for a couple of hours.
离开了房♥间
They left the room.
几个小时之后
And a few hours after that,
"比森提洛"就被墨西哥军队逮捕
"El Vicentillo" was arrested by the Mexican military.
我们能从这件事中 看出一个明显的问题
The obvious question and the obvious situation
一个明显的情况是
that is drawn from that is,
谁把"五月"·赞巴达的儿子
who gave information to the Mexican military
在墨西哥城的消息 走漏给了军方
that el hijo de El "Mayo" Zambada was in Mexico City?
这其中有一个肮脏的协议 我们并不知道细节
There is a dirty agreement that we don't know the details.
国防部秘♥书♥长♥通知我 军队在18日
The Secretary of National Defense informs me that on the 18th
逮捕了比森特·赞巴达·尼布拉
the Army arrested Vicente Zambada Niebla,
也就是"比森提洛"
aka "El Vicentillo"
伊斯梅尔·赞巴达·加西亚 也就是"五月"·赞巴达的儿子
son of Ismael Zambada Garcia, aka "El Mayo" Zambada.
他被捕
He was arrested and extradited
并被引渡回了美国
back into the United States.
比森特走下飞机的时候 我遇见了他
I met Vicente as he came off the airplane.
我想 他被捕 应该很意外
I think he was shocked that he got arrested.
我们在州警♥察♥的护送下
We transported him in a van
用面包车押送他
with state police escort
从机场直接送到了
from the airport directly into
芝加哥这里的大都会惩诫中心
the Metropolitan Correctional Center here in Chicago.
我记得他穿着运动服
I remember he was in a tracksuit.
他伸出手 想和我握手
And he stuck his hand out to shake my hand
我才不会和他握手
and I wasn't gonna shake his hand.
我想做的第一件事 就是问他 "你♥爸♥在哪里
The first thing I wanted to do was ask, "Where's your father?
他手♥机♥号♥是多少 他开什么车
What's his phone number? What's he drive?
身边有谁" 回答完我们就可以走了
Who's around him?" So we could go now.
我告诉他
I told him, just, you know,
"你要想想自己现在的情况
"You gotta think about... your position.
你不可能出去了"
There's no getting out now."
他们把比森特关了能有两年吧 这个情况...
The conditions they kept Vicente in for, I think two years...
真的很残忍♥了
were literally draconian measures.
完全隔离
Complete isolation.
不能交流 都不能和他妻子交流
No communication, even with his wife.
他都快疯了
He was... kind of, crazy.
他说 "我当时真的太难受了
He said, "I was so sick, I was...
在那个牢房♥里 逐渐崩溃了"
you know, losing my mind in that cell."
于是他放弃了
So, he gave up.
他准备好招供了 比森特那个时候...
He was ready. Vicente was ready...
已经准备好配合了
to cooperate at that point.
我们告诉他 "你必须要告诉我们
We told him, "You're gonna have to tell us
你父亲的信息 他的行为轨迹
about your dad, and your dad's activities.
那是你唯一的选择 只有这样
That's your only option for probably ever seeing
你才有可能再看到牢房♥外面的世界"
the outside of a jail cell again."
我能理解他的为难
I understand his... his dilemma.
对很多这种人来说
For a lot of those guys, you know
他们的直系亲属 对他们非常重要
their immediate families is a big deal to them.
血浓于水 他的处境非常煎熬
That's blood. You know, that's a tough spot to be in.
我们最终开展了一次行动
We finally went to, as an option,
试着通过一些... 可以称作中间人吧
to try and get past that hurdle...
试着打破我们的困境
was through somexa0intermediaries, if you will.
我们在他和他父亲之间
We were able to structure a telephone call
安排了一次通话
between him and his father.
通过多个律师
Through a number of attorneys,
我们给"五月"送了一个电♥话♥号♥码
we got a cell phone number to Mayo.
终于在半夜 "五月"打来了电♥话♥
Finally, in the middle of the night, Mayo calls.
在半夜十二点左右 美国缉毒局探员
Around midnight, the DEA agents
打开了他的牢房♥们 把"比森提洛"带了出来
opened his cell and took "El Vicentillo" out
给了他一个电♥话♥
and gave him a phone.
电♥话♥另一端是谁呢
Who was in the line?
"五月"·赞巴达
Mayo Zambada.
那个电♥话♥的目的
That phone call was strictly for the purpose
就是让他向他父亲解释
of him explaining to his dad,
"我不想告诉他们
"I don't really want to tell them...
但是这是我唯一的机会"
but it's the only real shot I have."
"五月"告诉他
Mayo told him:
"你该做什么 就去做 儿子...
"You do what you have to do, son...
帮助你自己 帮助你的家人"
to help yourself and help your family."
那真是一个大日子
That was a big day.
他的招供导致了 能有数百人被捕
He led to probably hundreds of arrests.
说实话 他很清晰地给我们展示出...
Quite frankly, he showed us...
他们是怎样运作的
how they operate.
他们强迫他背叛"矮子"
They forced him to betray Chapo.
这就是打那通电♥话♥的原因
That was the reason of that call.
让他说 "爸爸 我没有别的选择了
To say, "Papa, I don't have other option.
供出他 才能保全我们"
It's us... or him."
你会为了你的朋友 牺牲你的儿子吗
Will you sacrifice your son for your compadre?
不会
No.
一切都结束了
He was over.
尤其是当你引起了 国际媒体
Especially, if you call the attention of international media,
和政♥府♥的注意
the governments.
在毒品走私行业 必须要安静低调
For the narco-traffic business, you have to be quiet.
到最后面 "矮子"有点犯傻了
Towards the end, Chapo got a little stupid.
他开始去他不该去的地方
And he began to go places he shouldn't.
开始做一些公开的事情
He began to do some public things.
我知道这些 是因为我们 从比森特那里了解到
I know, because we know from Vicente
"五月"很生气
that Mayo was very upset
因为他那样行事 "五月"担心
with the way that he was going, because he was concerned
"矮子"会引起组织受到更多关注
that Chapo was gonna lead to more heat for the organization as itself.
"矮子"变成了一个国际问题
Chapo became an international problem,
因为他的名字被全世界知道了
because his name was known all over the world.
他对自己的安全问题太过自负
He felt over-confident about his safety.
这种人 你什么事情都不能告诉他们
This kind of person, you can't say anything to them.
他把自己暴露在 不该暴露的地方
He let himself be seen where he wasn't supposed to be seen.
所以他现在才会进监狱
That's why he is in jail now.
这里两个
Two here.
他走下飞机
He's coming off the plane,
他在哭
and, he's crying.
我把这个画面裱起来了 用相框裱起来了
And I had that freeze framed, and I got it in a frame now.
你有机会见过"矮子"吗
Did you meet Chapo?
我没见过他 这也是好事
No. Good thing, too.
因为我可能会弄死他
'Cause I probably would've dropped him.
可能当场就把他打晕了
I would've cold-cocked him right there.
毒贩华金·"矮子"·古兹曼·洛埃拉
Drug trafficker Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman
被判处终生监禁
was sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison.
"矮子"的余生都会在监狱度过
El Chapo will spend his life in prison.
"矮子"·古兹曼被判处终生监禁
"El Chapo" Guzman was sentenced to life in prison.
突发新闻
Breaking news.
比森特·赞巴达·尼布拉
Vicente Zambada Niebla,
绰号♥"比森提洛"在芝加哥
"El Vicentillo", was sentenced in Chicago
被判处有期徒刑15年 缓刑五年
to 15 years in prison and five years of probation.
他做出的牺牲 就是在监狱里待一阵子
The sacrifice was to be in jail for a period of,
15年 14年
fifteen, fourteen years?