追缉汽车大亨：卡洛斯·戈恩（2023）

Doesn't mean that every time I have a relationship,
或者我提供意见
or I give some advice, or I give any, you know
或任何策略性见解
或给这些人意见时,我都要申报
strategic point of view or counseling to these people, I need to declare them.
阿曼的分销商大股东
The distributor in Oman-- The main shareholder,
阿曼分销商大股东是阿默巴湾
of the distributor of Oman, is Ahmed Bahwan.
明白吗?
Okay?
他们只是把阿默巴湾串联至
What they have done is they have linked Ahmed Bahwan
他的父亲舒哈巴湾
with his father, Suhail Bahwan.
顺带一提,舒哈巴湾不是公♥司♥股东
Suhail Bahwan, by the way, is not a shareholder of the company.
他跟那公♥司♥毫无关系
He has absolutely no link to the company.
他是公♥司♥创办人,但在2008或2009年
He founded the company, and at a certain moment, in 2008 or 2009,
把所有股份转给儿子
he has given all the shares to his sons.
舒哈巴湾是独♥立♥商人
Suhail Bahwan, as a independent businessman,
多年来都会探望和问我意见
used to come to see me, seek my advice, for many years.
明白吗?
Okay?
付给这分销商的款项全是合情合理
And all the payment that were made to this distributor were justified.
雷诺和日产有很多高层签署批准
You have many executives of Renault and of Nissan who signed off.
我们向法官解释过,但他决定置之不理
We explained this to the judge but he decided to ignore it.
其实我们相信舒哈巴湾先生
Actually, we believe that Mr. Suhail Bahwan,
直接和亲自参与跟SBA的关系
he was directly and personally involved in the relationship with SBA
还有它的领导层,而暗地里
and with its leadership, and that on the side,
卡洛斯戈恩继续保密地
Carlos Ghosn was maintaining a completely concealed,
长♥期♥跟这公♥司♥保持高报酬的私人关系
long, highly remunerated, personal relationship with this company.
这就是典型的利益冲突
This is textbook conflict of interest.
他从没向任何人提过
And he never mentioned this to anyone.
(贝鲁特)
这些款项流动的资料浮面时
When this information was first coming out about these money flows,
一切都没有戈恩的名字
nothing is actually in Ghosn's name.
但硬碟内有很多电邮
But there's a bunch of emails in the hard drive
显示戈恩的已故律师转移那笔钱去买♥♥游艇
which show Ghosn's late lawyer moving money around to buy this yacht.
而且首期是来自阿曼
And the initial down payment, the money came from Oman.
在达巴耶码头
At the Dbayeh marina,
有很多警卫
there is a lot of security.
那边
This is it right there.
里面,入码头
Inside, to the marina.
我们不能进去,要掉头
We can't get in. We're gonna have to turn around.
见到那条行人路吗?
See that walkway there?
可以驶过去吗?
Can we drive down there?
是公家路,好极
That's public. Perfect.
你看
Look at that.
对,是它了
Yeah, this is it.
天啊,是戈恩的游艇
对
- Oh, my God, that's Ghosn's yacht. - Yeah.
顶部有灰色物体的那艘
Think it's the one with the gray things on the top of it.
我不知超级游艇的定义,但它近37米长
I mean, I don't know what the definition of a superyacht is, but it's a 120-foot.
对,很大
Yeah, it's huge.
戈恩怎会想要游艇?
Why did Ghosn want a yacht?
老实讲,有钱人就是这样花钱
I mean, this is how rich people spend money.
我们知戈恩一家
And we know that the Ghosn family
坐著它游览地中海一带
kind of used it to cruise around the Mediterranean.
戈恩身边的朋友,像舒哈巴湾那种人
People that Ghosn was hanging out with, people like Suhail Bahwan,
都是拥有游艇的亿万富翁
they are billionaires, and these people own yachts.
戈恩买♥♥游艇,算是为了融入圈子
Ghosn, you know, in buying a yacht, was kind of joining that club.
超级富翁的圈子
That club of the ultrawealthy.
检察厅相信他一直用公♥司♥钱替游艇埋单
Prosecutors believe he's been using company money to pay for that yacht.
我不知道
I don't know whether or not
他是否得到黎巴嫩政♥府♥的保护
he is being protected by the Lebanese government
但他在黎巴嫩饮香槟
but he is drinking champagne in Lebanon
在泳池边叹世界
and he is relaxing by the pool.
那是事实
That's a fact.
游艇是谁的?
Who owned the yacht?
游艇是绝色游艇公♥司♥的资产
Well, the yacht is the property of the company, of Beauty Yacht.
绝色游艇有股东的
And Beauty Yacht has shareholders.
但以一般人的讲♥法♥,可能是你拥有游艇
But potentially, in practical day-to-day terms, you own the yacht.
你一直用那艘游艇
我今日都有用
- You've used the yacht. - I'm using the yacht today.
我花钱在游艇上,支付职员薪酬
I'm spending on the yacht. I'm paying for the employees.
对,我有这样做
Yes, that's what I'm doing.
(2022年4月22日)
当局刚颁新令通缉卡洛斯戈恩
A new arrest warrant has been issued for Carlos Ghosn.
法国检察官颁布国际通缉令
French prosecutors issuing an international arrest warrant
拘捕日产前主席卡洛斯戈恩
for former Nissan chairman Carlos Ghosn
和四名其他人士,据称他们曾协助
and four others they say allegedly helped him
挪用法国汽车生产商雷诺几百万欧元
funnel millions of euros from French carmaker Renault.
(雷诺集团)
我觉得现在有充分铁证
他要解答一些合理的问题
I think there's enough smoke now that there are legitimate questions to answer.
这一切不再是日本的阴谋
This is not all just a plot from the Japanese.
上庭为自己辩护
Go to court. Make your case.
像所有公民一样
Just like every other citizen.
卡洛斯戈恩是受人爱戴的流氓
This idea that Carlos Ghosn is a lovable rogue who should now
应该继续逃离法网,这说法再也站不住脚
just be allowed to continue his life scot-free is not gonna fly.
(CNN商业版特约记者,李察奎斯特)
(CNN直播,法国颁通缉令)
为何不向法国当局自首?
Why not surrender to the French authorities?
(我不能向法国当局自首)
是这样的,我做不到
Look, I cannot.
你会亲身去法国面对控罪吗?
Will you physically go to France to face these charges?
不可以
But I cannot.
你的意思似乎是,好吧,我身在黎巴嫩
What you seem to say, okay, I'm sitting in Lebanon
我可以坐飞机出境,我没有护照的
and I can fly-- I have no passport.
我不能离开黎巴嫩
I cannot move from Lebanon.
我要留在黎巴嫩司法制度和管辖区
I am under the Lebanese justice system and under the Lebanese jurisdiction.
但是...
我们要明白这一点
- But... - And we just have to acknowledge that.
对,卡洛斯,难道你不能去法国
Yeah, Carlos, isn't it possible that you could get to France
面对这些控罪的审讯吗?
and face charges there in a place where, you know,
法国的司法制度应该较公平
the justice system is considered much more fair?
说这是日本腐♥败♥体系案件很容易
It's easier saying this is a corrupt Japanese case,
但现在法国都颁布通缉令
but now the French have an arrest warrant...
没错
情况看似更差
- Sure. - ...it looks worse.
你总不能说这制度不公平
It's harder for you to say this system isn't fair.
的确如此
It is true.
但较简单的做法是转移
But will be more simple to transfer the files
所有相关档案去黎巴嫩
在黎巴嫩展开公平审讯
which are all connected to Lebanon and to have a fair trial in Lebanon.
戈恩先生,你一直痛斥日本司法制度
Mr. Ghosn, you've complained bitterly about Japan's justice system,
但你似乎也不太满意法国司法制度
but you don't seem that keen on the French justice system either.
你听起来似乎不会接受
You sound very much like someone who isn't going to accept
任何不会判你无罪的司法制度
any justice system unless it finds you innocent.
卡洛斯戈恩很明显做了他认为对自己
It is clear that Carlos Ghosn did what he thought was best
最有利的事
for Carlos Ghosn.
后果就由泰莱父子和桂格凯利等人承受
The impact has been felt most by people like the Taylors and Greg Kelly.
他们因为卡洛斯戈恩的决定而入狱
People who served jail time as a result of Carlos Ghosn's decisions.
(田纳西州,纳士维)
我们回来了
We're here.
对
真好
- Yep. - And it's good.
确实要点时间
Took a while.
些少时间吧
对
- Just a little bit. - Uh-huh.
在家千日好
Just no place like home.
大家都有酒了吗?
Has everybody got a glass of wine?
多谢你们来
Great to have you here.
多谢
Thank you.
饮杯
Cheers.
其他细路要18分钟
And now the other children need, like, 18 minutes from...
我知道
I know.
我回来时,感觉有点像
I felt a little bit like I'd had the stuffing beat out of me
我已生无可恋
by the time I got back.
你被起诉八项罪,有七项获判无罪
You're acquitted on seven of eight charges,
但即使获判无罪,还是逃不掉法网
but you can't escape the system even after you've been acquitted.
日产宣布向我展开民事诉讼
It was announced that Nissan's filed a civil suit against me
是为了戈恩的薪酬,现在他们要我
over Ghosn's compensation and now they want me
赔偿十四亿日元
即是大概一千二百万美元
to pay 1.4 billion yen, so around 12 million dollars,
我根本无力偿还
which is well beyond my means.