追缉汽车大亨：卡洛斯·戈恩（2023）

I currently live with my wife
在日本的软禁公♥寓♥,等待开庭审讯
under house arrest in Japan, waiting for trial.
老实讲,当你已过花甲之年
And, you know, when you're in your sixties,
(日产前人事总监,桂格凯利)
失去三年的光阴
you lose three years of your life,
并不像25岁时那样,还有大把日子
you're not looking, like, at a horizon when you're 25 years old.
来到日本,日产前高层桂格凯利
Over to Japan now, where former Nissan executive Greg Kelly
被控协助前上司卡洛斯戈恩
is accused of helping his former boss Carlos Ghosn
向监管机构隐瞒数百万美元
hide millions of dollars from regulators.
若罪名成立,桂格凯利可能会被监禁十年
Greg Kelly, if convicted, faces up to ten years in prison.
我没触犯日本任何刑事法律
I did not violate any criminal laws in Japan.
我很重视家人
My family is very important to me.
(日本文艺春秋电视台访问桂格凯利)
我想回到美国与家人团聚
And I would like to be able to be in the United States with my family.
我63岁了
I'm 63 years old.
(2020年9月15日,东京地方裁判所)
在卡洛斯戈恩逃离日本前
Greg Kelly's legal strategy,
桂格凯利的官司策略是
up until the day Carlos Ghosn fled the country,
叫卡洛斯戈恩出庭,并说:“卡洛斯戈恩
was to put Carlos Ghosn up on the stand and say, "Carlos Ghosn,
我有无跟你签署
具约束力的合约说在你退休后
had I formed a binding contract with you to pay you $100 million
给你一亿美元而不向股东披露?”
without disclosing it to shareholders after you retired?"
卡洛斯戈恩会否认
And Carlos Ghosn would say no.
但卡洛斯戈恩已经离国
But Carlos Ghosn wasn't in the country anymore
整个官司策略不再有用
and that whole legal strategy went out the window.
所以桂格凯利只能站著挨鞭
So Greg Kelly was left holding the bag, so to speak.
讽剌的是,戈恩面临一些更严重的新指控
Ironically, there were now more serious charges against Ghosn
是与桂格凯利无关的
which Greg Kelly had nothing to do with.
我等了两年才开庭
I've had to wait two years for a trial,
虽然是源于从没支付的薪酬
even though it was for compensation which was never paid,
他从没赚到,公♥司♥从没答应支付
never earned, never promised to be paid.
被审讯的是我,但我无犯罪
I'm the one that's on trial, but there's no criminal conduct.
我的意思是根本不合理
I mean, it just-- it doesn't make sense.
说到底
Above all,
这宗罪是行政总裁隐瞒巨额个人报酬
this was a crime where a CEO concealed his large personal remuneration
(2018至2019年间
前日本法务大臣,山下贵司)
并瞒骗股东
and deceived shareholders.
这在美国和英国
是极其严重的罪行,在日本也是
This is an extremely serious crime in the US and the UK, as well as in Japan.
你几有信心会得到公平审讯?
How much faith do you have that it's a fair process?
(桂格凯利妻,迪凯利)
我们还是望天打救吧
Let's say I'm praying on it.
我最怕他被裁定罪名成立
My worst nightmare is that they find him guilty.
我无法承受
I think that would just be too much to bear.
(贝鲁特)
法国派遣地方法官和调查员
A delegation of French magistrates and investigators
前往贝鲁特
will be heading to Beirut
听黎巴嫩裔商人卡洛斯戈恩解说
to hear from Lebanese businessman Carlos Ghosn.
法国司法部门想了解
The French judiciary are interested
雷诺日产的可疑开支
in suspicious expenses from Renault-Nissan.
但前行政总裁严正否认这些指控
But the former CEO formally denies these accusations.
依情况看
It appears that through the course
透过雷诺和日产的正常业务程序
of normal business with Renault and Nissan,
有钱被转移至其他公♥司♥
money was diverted to other companies
而卡洛斯戈恩和他的跟班
in which Carlos Ghosn and his entourage
似乎有私人利益
seems to have a personal interest.
这非常令人不安
This is very, very troubling.
我准备好与法国司法部合作
I'm ready to collaborate with the French justice system.
我想向他们交代和解释事实
I wanna give them some facts and the explanation of the facts.
(贝鲁特司法部)
我觉得卡洛斯戈恩面对
I think in front of Carlos Ghosn,
陷害阴谋和失实指控
we have a plot and fake accusations.
(卡洛斯戈恩法国律师,桑达马利)
自从卡洛斯戈恩被捕后
And for the first time since Carlos Ghosn got arrested,
他首次被公平地提问
we face the fair way to ask him questions.
这是我会说是程序的开始
And it's just-- I would say it's just the beginning of the dance.
我们的当事人首次
It's the very first time that our client
可以在法官面前亲身解说
而且有他的律师团队在旁
can explain himself in front of judges with his lawyers sitting near him
并准备好辩护
after preparing his defense.
他们盘问了我三天
They interrogated me for three days.
我没想到盘问内容
What surprised me during this interrogation
主要围绕一部电脑和硬碟
is they were concentrated on a computer and the hard drive
是从我在贝鲁特的办公室偷走的
that were stolen from the office I was using in Beirut.
是无搜查令的日产律师拿走的
It was taken by Nissan lawyers without any warrant.
顺带一提,那部电脑根本不是我的
And by the way, the computer is not even mine.
卡洛斯戈恩自愿参与
Carlos Ghosn participated voluntarily.
巨细无遗地解答了几百条问题
And he gave long and detailed answers to hundreds of questions.
我回答了所有问题
I answer everything, all the question
与硬碟具体内容无关的所有问题
that were not related to specifics coming from the hard drive.
我拒绝回答这方面的问题
I refused to answer question related to this.
我点确保他们不会利用
How can you trust they're not using information
被♥操♥控或擅加的资料?
that had been manipulated, added?
我不知道
I don't know.
戈恩开始显得不想被审查
It was beginning to look like Ghosn didn't want to deal with scrutiny.
所有证据都在那些硬碟内
And all of that evidence was contained in those hard drives.
我们很想知卡洛斯戈恩有罪吗?
What we really wanted to know, was Carlos Ghosn a criminal or not?
对于这种重大报导,我们会搏到尽
When you're on a story that big, you know, it doesn't matter what it takes.
再细微的资料都不放过
It doesn't matter how small the information is.
我们都会去找
You go out there and get it.
哈佛父子在最后关头上诉
A last-minute appeal from a Harvard father and son
要求不被引渡至日本,但遭法官拒绝
to avoid extradition to Japan has been denied by a judge.
(2021年3月1日,波士顿卢根国际机场)
我很嬲
I was pretty pissed off.
对自己的国家很失望
I'm really disappointed in my own country.
当然感到被出♥卖♥♥♥
Absolutely felt betrayed.
米高的处境是,他的所为难辨对错
The thing with Mike is that he operates in this kind of gray area.
他完成任务,点做到并不重要
He gets the job done. Doesn't really matter how.
有时他做一些好事
Sometimes he does very good things.
有时做不道德的事
Sometimes he does, like, very shady things.
(秘密特工还是大坏蛋?)
回溯2012年,他曾被控
Back in 2012, he is accused of a--
操纵五千四百万美元合约的投标
of rigging a bid for a $54 million contract.
还贿赂联邦调查员去掩饰此事
And then of bribing an FBI official to cover this up.
他被囚14个月后接受认罪协议
He accepted a plea deal after spending 14 months in jail.
米高泰莱有案底这一点
The fact that Mike Taylor is a convicted criminal
可能会对他不利
probably goes against him.
美国政♥府♥跟日本有引渡条约
The US government have an extradition treaty with Japan
他们可以选择要否遵守
which they can choose to respect or not.
在米高泰莱的情况
And in the case of Mike Taylor,
他们选择遵守条约,引渡米高泰莱
they choose to respect that treaty, and Mike Taylor is extradited.
泰莱父子随时会被押上机
The Taylors could be put on a plane at any time now.
日本当局在卢根机场接管我们
The Japanese took custody of us at Logan Airport,
押我们上日本航机
put us on a Japanese airliner.
我们被上手铐,还戴了颈圈
We were shackled and we had a dog leash on us.
大约17个保安员监视我们
还有两个检察官和两个口译员
They had about 17 security guards for us, two prosecutors and two interpreters.
我觉得他们要向全世界证明
I think they-- In their mind, they showed the world,
“唏,我们可以主动捉拿任何人
"Hey, we can reach out and get anybody we want,
美国公民都不例外”
even American citizens."
(东京)
一对麻省父子
A Massachusetts father and son
被控协助日产前高层逃离日本
accused of helping a former Nissan executive escape from Japan
二人认罪
have pleaded guilty.
米高和彼得泰莱认罪
Michael and Peter Taylor entered their guilty pleas
并在东京法庭度过一晚
in a Tokyo courtroom overnight.
我们预料会有三年半
So we're looking three to three and a half years
被囚在东京拘置所水饭房♥
of sitting in solitary confinement at Tokyo Detention House
然后才会开庭审讯
before we can get to a trial.
所以我们会点做?
So, of course, what do we do?
我们作出理智的决定,即刻认罪
We did the business decision and we pled guilty right away.
我在外面要表现得充满歉意
On the outside I had to be apologetic
假装我后悔不已
and pretend like I was remorseful.
(米高泰莱之子,彼得泰莱)
但骨子里心想:“你们去死吧”
But on the inside, it's like, "Screw you, guys."
日本法♥院♥判米高泰莱入狱两年半
The Japanese court sentenced Michael Taylor to two years in prison.
儿子彼得入狱一年零八个月
His son Peter will serve one year, eight months.
我知那是最后一次见父亲
I knew that was the last time I was gonna see my father,