追缉汽车大亨：卡洛斯·戈恩（2023）

beautiful islands off the coast of South America,
他在飞行纪录只写两字:“开会”
and in the flight log, he's written a single word. "Meeting."
但他有家人同行
But he's got family members on board.
有些豪华派对
You have some lavish parties.
是生日定商务宴会?
Was it a birthday party? Was it a business party?
雷诺花了六十三万欧元
举办路易十四世主题晚宴
Renault paid over 630,000 euros for this Louis XIV-themed gala.
他们点解要执著于此事?
Why did they have to focus on this?
卡洛斯为公♥司♥赚了几百万美元
Carlos made millions, millions of dollars for the company.
(卡洛斯戈恩妻,卡露戈恩)
他们很小器,拿宴会来批评他
And then they were being so petty, criticizing him over a party.
那不是罪
And it's not a crime.
戈恩在里约嘉年华招呼朋友
Ghosn hosted friends and acquaintances at the Rio Carnival.
还未够,雷诺日产还有份
And on top of that, Renault-Nissan are involved
支付戈恩家的豪♥宅♥,巴黎、巴西
in paying for luxury homes for the Ghosns. Paris, Brazil.
在黎巴嫩都有物业
There's a property in Lebanon.
戈恩似乎把公♥司♥视为己有
It appears as if Ghosn is using the company as if it were his own.
这是罪吗?我不知道
So whether that's criminal or not, I don't know.
交由法庭决定吧
That's up to the courts to decide.
但那一切都是小意思
But all that is a tiny element.
只是冰山一角
It's the little tip of the iceberg.
取得其他消息时
But when other information arrived,
我们扩大了内部调查范围
we expanded the scope of our internal investigation.
日产的律师团队
The lawyers working for Nissan
把硬碟内容
had handed over the contents of a hard drive
交给雷诺调查团队
to the Renault investigators.
硬碟属于卡洛斯戈恩的已故私人律师
The hard drive belongs to Carlos Ghosn's late personal lawyer.
据悉有海量证据
This allegedly contained a mountain of evidence.
所以我们当然想取得这些资料
And so, obviously, we wanted to get our hands on this information.
以下是对卡洛斯戈恩的新指控
Now, new accusations against Carlos Ghosn:
这位雷诺日产前领袖被法国质询
The former Renault-Nissan boss is now the target of a French inquiry
涉嫌挪用企业资产和洗黑钱
for misuse of corporate assets and money laundering.
(法国进一步调查戈恩)
戈恩的声誉受重挫
It was hugely damaging to Ghosn.
法国雷诺员工感到被出♥卖♥♥♥
Renault's French employees feel betrayed.
我们捉襟见肘,对员工有很多请求
We cannot afford, with everything we ask of our employees,
但领导集团的行政总裁却偷员工的钱
to have the head of the group, the CEO, stealing from his employees.
(不道德)
(不只是荒谬)
(而且很卑鄙)
回顾历史,很多法国人很愤怒
Historically, in France a lot of people were outraged
公♥司♥要裁员和减薪
about the job cuts and the wage squeeze.
所以一想到全国最高薪的企业高层
So the idea that the country's most highly-paid executive
利用公♥司♥进一步中饱私囊
is using the company to enrich himself further...
他在法国的光环彻底被毁
that just shattered his aura forever, actually, in France.
(可恶)
(贪婪)
(辉煌与堕落)
他是连环骗徒
He's a serial fraudster.
法国人感到极不公义
For the French, there is a profound sense of injustice.
对我们的经济和民♥主♥来说是坏消息
This is very bad news for our economy and our democracy.
他面临多项指控,他必须回应
He has numerous accusations against him. He must answer them.
调查人员当然会叫卡洛斯戈恩解释
And of course, the investigation will tell Carlos Ghosn to explain it.
(卡洛斯戈恩知道路易十六的下场吗?)
(是被斩头)
法国有很多公♥关♥公♥司♥
There were many PR company in France
用凡尔赛宫的事大造文章
using, you know, the Versailles story.
利用这种活动来扭曲事实
Using, you know, events like this, distorting reality.
一齐对抗不公义吧,但当你...
So let's fight an injustice, but in a way where you--
我不是指想起诉我的人
I'm not with people who want to charge me,
而是想知真♥相♥的人
but with people who wanna see where is the truth.
在硬碟方面
Well, as far as this hard drive is concerned,
我不能透露内容
I cannot speak about the content.
但内容令人发指
But the content shocks the conscience.
我只能够这样讲
That's all I can say.
(麻省,哈佛)
大约凌晨5时,我听见有人用力拍门
At about 5:00 a.m., I heard banging on my door.
当时我只穿内衣
I was just in my underwear.
15个美国法警手持M4枪♥械♥
There were 15 armed US Marshals with M4s in their hand.
他们问:“你是彼得泰莱吗?”
我回答是
They said, you know, "Are you Peter Taylor?" I said, "Yes."
他们说:“我们要代日本拘捕你和你♥爸♥”
And they said, "This is for Japan. It's for you and your father."
我当时心想:“你们做甚么?”
You know, I was thinking, like, "What are you guys doing?"
我的意思是,要动用装甲运兵车
I mean, bringing armored personnel carriers
和超过15个手持M4的军人,太夸张了吧
and over 15 armed men with M4s is a bit extreme.
日本明显是因为...
It was clear that the Japanese are suffering
(米高泰莱之子,彼得泰莱)
戈恩的逃亡而患上严重创伤后遗症
from severe PTSD from Ghosn's escape.
他们不会就此罢休
It's just something that they're not gonna get over.
上演荷里活逃亡桥段的哈佛男子
A Harvard man who pulled off an escape straight out of Hollywood.
和他的儿子被囚
He and his son are behind bars
他们涉嫌协助被控贪污的日产高层
for helping a Nissan executive accused of embezzlement
逃离日本当局的制裁
get away from Japanese authorities.
假如你们被引渡呢?
What will happen if you are extradited?
你担忧甚么?
What is your fear?
毫无疑问,我们会遭受酷刑
There's no doubt in my mind, we'll be tortured severely
(米高泰莱的声音)
若我们最终被引渡受审
if we end up being extradited.
律师跟我说很有机会
The attorneys had advised me that there's a good chance
日本会要求引渡
that Japan will request extradition.
律师说他们绝不会得逞
The attorney said they'll never get it in a million years
因为你不能把一个人引渡至别国
because you can't extradite somebody to a country
但明知他们会遭受酷刑
where you know they're gonna be tortured.
我当时深信美国不会引渡我
I was pretty confident that the US would not extradite me.
无金钱损失、无人伤亡
No money was stolen, no one died, no one was hurt.
我愧对儿子
I felt sorry for my son.
他不应被拖落水的
He shouldn't have been involved with this.
他的参与程度低于他们估计
He wasn't involved to the level they think.
你认为自己为何会被引渡?
Why do you think you've been targeted for extradition?
他们捉不到身在黎巴嫩的卡洛斯戈恩
Well, they cannot reach Carlos Ghosn because he is in Lebanon
黎巴嫩不会引渡任何人出境
and Lebanon will not extradite anybody from their country.
所以他们捉不到他
So they cannot get him.
于是想捉拿我们父子
So they want to come after myself and my son.
我妈是戈恩的远房♥亲戚
My mother's a distant relation of Ghosn.
她应该有点惊讶
I think my mother was a bit surprised
我们被捕后,卡洛斯戈恩没联络过她
that after our arrests, she didn't hear from Carlos Ghosn.
我觉得那亦是因为黎巴嫩人人都问她
And I think that's also because everyone was asking her in Lebanon.
“唏,他肯定有联络你吧?
"Hey, you know, he must be in contact with you, right?
我们一被捕,他肯定有打给你”
Obviously he called you up as soon as we were arrested."
我妈说:“不,他没有”
And my mother's like, "No, he didn't."
家庭是最重要的
Family is everything.
换作我是对方
If I was the person on the other side
有人救了我一命
and somebody had saved my life,
我会竭尽所能帮手
I'd be doing everything I could to help.
希望我们的总统关注此事和做正确的决定
I hope our president gets word of this and can do the right thing.
(贝鲁特)
我很幸运,在此事上有人帮我
I was lucky to have people who supported me in this.
那些人可能要面对刑事审讯
Those people are facing criminal proceedings potentially.
老实讲,我们早知有何风险
Well, you know, we knew from the beginning what are the risks,
毕竟参与这种行动很危险
you know, involved into an operation like this.
相片呢?
在这里
- Where is the photo? - Here.
这样?
对
- Like this? - Yeah.
我记得在逃亡后不久跟卡洛斯戈恩谈过
I remember talking to Carlos Ghosn shortly after the escape.
你的逃亡,我们看得津津有味
So we've all had a lot of fun with your escape.
其实昨天我们报导过
有人正在开♥发♥一个电脑游戏
You know, we wrote yesterday that there's now a video game in development already.
我不知道
I didn't know.
戈恩逃亡,避开检察官和警♥察♥
So when Ghosn escapes, you know, dodges prosecutors and the police...
他只是一直笑,觉得很搞笑
He was just, like, laughing and thought this was very funny.
卡露也在笑
Carole was laughing.
但你看得出他引以为傲
But you could see that he was proud.
他原本在日本前路坎坷
His prospects in Japan were so dire,
现在是住在黎巴嫩的自♥由♥人
and now he's living a free man, really, in Lebanon.
戈恩他就像啤牌高手
He's a poker player, Ghosn.
而这是他的绝地王牌
And this was the ultimate winning move for him.
但往后的破坏,他的所为和选择遗下的
But the collateral damage, the trail of bodies from his actions,
烂摊子很难收科
like, his choices-- is huge.
(东京)
我目前跟妻子共住