配乐大师：约翰·威廉姆斯（2024）

I come now, I do maybe two concerts a year at the most.
我在波士顿大众管弦乐团 担任指挥时有更多场
I used to do more when I was conducting the Boston Pops.
令人充满活力
It's energizing.
约翰是很棒的指挥家
John is an amazing conductor.
他与管弦乐团的精神密不可分...
(古斯塔沃杜达梅) (作曲家兼洛杉矶爱乐乐团指挥)
He really connects with the soul of the orchestra
...因为他所具备的知识
because... ...that knowledge that he has.
《侏罗纪公园》的主题曲
The main theme of, uh, Jurassic Park
是一首让我嚮往当音乐家的作品
was one of the pieces that make me a musician.
我还记得跟我的朋友去电影院
You know, I remember I went to the theater with a friend of mine.
我看了电影,我忘了,大概看了十次吧 我去听配乐和看这部电影
I saw, I don't remember, ten times I went to listen to them, to see the film.
真是一部好片,非常不错
Beautiful. It was amazing.
但要去听它的配乐
But to listen to that music.
我听过很多人这麽说
I've heard so many people say this.
(汤玛斯胡坦) (洛杉矶爱乐乐团小号♥首席)
我还记得我去看《侏罗纪公园》的 那间电影院和日期时间
I remember the theater, the time of day when I saw Jurassic Park.
我听到演奏小号♥的声音
And I heard those trumpets play.
(1993年《侏罗纪公园》 史蒂芬·斯皮尔伯格执导)
我还记得自己走出电影院时很激动
I just remember coming out of that theater juiced.
迫不及待要吹奏我的乐器
Just excited to play my instrument.
约翰很想展现出恐龙该有的原始感
John really wanted to put the dinosaurs where they belonged,
他是秉持著
with that same kind of, sort of,
孩子们在走访自然史博物馆时
admiration and respect that little kids have
看到侏儸纪时代或白垩纪晚期的遗迹
when they go through a natural history museum
所油然而生的敬畏之情
and they see the relics of this era, of this Jurassic or later Cretaceous era.
孩子们都会对恐龙化石感到啧啧称奇
And they... they're in awe of just the bones.
我认为约翰是带著一颗 懂得如何对这些壮观至极的动物
I think that John scored this movie with the heart of a child
创造出惊奇感的赤子之心 来为这部电影配乐
that knew how to create a sense of wonder about these amazing, magnificent animals.
(当恐龙统治地球)
我们经常提到约翰威廉斯...
So many times we'd-- We talk about John Williams
(艾维斯米歇尔) (《治疗》主持人)
...还有配乐,彼此完全相反
we talk about scores that are 180s of each other.
电影也是截然不同 所以那年有《侏罗纪公园》
And films that are 180s. So they have the year of Jurassic Park
和《辛德勒的名单》 都是出自同一位导演
and Schindler's List by the same filmmaker.
(1993年)
那就是最好的例子
That is the best example of that.
《辛德勒的名单》的配乐让人感到惊叹
There is a sense of wonder in that Schindler's List score,
但也会让人沉痛地讶异于人性的残酷
but a kind of a baleful wonder, how can humanity be this?
我是在唐格尔伍德创作 《辛德勒的名单》配乐
I was... had been working on Schindler's List at Tanglewood,
应该是那年夏天...
I think in the summer of that year...
史蒂芬在波兰的某个地方拍片
and Steven was shooting in Poland somewhere.
我得在波兰的克拉科夫拍冬天的戏
I had to have the winter to shoot in Kraków, Poland.
所以我第一次错过强尼的 《侏罗纪公园》配乐录音
So for the first time, I missed Johnny's scoring session to Jurassic Park.
电影行程完全撞在一起
That's how... that's how the films overlapped so completely.
(1993年《辛德勒的名单》 史蒂芬·斯皮尔伯格执导)
我很喜欢这种对比风格
The contrast in styles couldn't have been more welcome to me.
非常喜欢
I loved it.
我在拍电影时没想到音乐层面的事
I wasn't thinking musically when I made the film.
我没有放入临时音乐
I didn't put temporary music in
来向强尼提出建议 表达我对某些画面的看法
to make suggestions to Johnny about how I felt about certain scenes.
我只是一心一意在说故事
I just focused on telling the story.
然后就让约翰看这部电影
And then I showed the film to John.
这份名单代表著至善
The list is an absolute good.
这份名单是生命
The list is life.
我看到电影的第一个反应 是吃惊不已,瞠目结舌
My immediate reaction to the film was so staggering. I mean, I couldn't speak.
我非常激动,几乎是泪流满面
I was just too overwhelmed. I was almost, well, weeping.
我去外面透透气,沿著大楼散步
And I went outside and walked around the building a little bit
回到室内,过了五分钟后我和史蒂芬说
and came back, and five minutes later and said to Steven,
打算要开会讨论配乐
attempting to start the meeting to discuss the music,
我说:“史蒂芬 这是一部出色到不行的电影
I said, "Steven, this a great, great film.
你需要一个比我更优秀的 作曲家来做配乐”
And you need a better composer than I am to do this score."
他说:“我知道,但他们都过世了”
And he said, "I know, but they're all dead."
(50年的音乐和电影)
(史蒂芬史匹柏和约翰威廉斯座谈会)
所幸,多亏有史蒂芬的不屈不挠
Fortunately for me and Steven's tenacity,
我不得不坚持下去,尽力而为
I had to stay with it and do the best I could.
但我真的是这麽想 我认为本片已经远胜于
But I truly felt that way. I thought this film is beyond
一般人所能创作出的电影水平
almost anything anyone could create
难以匹敌本片所要传递的讯息
that would be worthy of what the film is telling us
和展现出的历史性
and the history of what the film was revealing to us.
其中一个我和约翰最美好的合作经验
One of the greatest experiences I ever had with John,
而且绝对是我跟他共事过最感人的经验
and certainly the most emotional experience I've ever had with him,
就是他在伯克夏郡上创作 《辛德勒的名单》的配乐
is when he was up in the Berkshires composing Schindler's List,
他把我和凯特叫过去
and he asked me and Kate to come up
聆听他第一次用钢琴弹奏初稿
and hear the sketches on the piano for the first time.
强尼总是坐在钢琴前说...
Johnny always sits down at the piano and says,
(凯特卡普萧) (演员兼史蒂芬史匹柏之妻)
...“我不是很会弹钢琴 所以别抱太大的期望
"Now I don't play piano very well, so don't expect much,
但我会试著弹出来”
but I'm going to try to pick this out."
想当然他是技艺精湛的钢琴家
And of course, he's a beautiful piano player.
他准备好了音乐,就写在钢琴上
And he had the music. It was handwritten up on the piano,
我们就站在钢琴旁,然后他开始弹奏
and we're standing at the piano. And he starts.
没错
Yeah.
让我永生难忘
I'll never forget it.
我已经好久没有情绪如此溃堤了
I cannot remember a time where I was so emotionally devastated
他用钢琴弹奏这个旋律简单优美
by these very simple, melodic, soulful, anguished sketches
深情悲痛的初稿给凯特和我听
he was performing for Kate and I on the piano.
强尼弹奏前五个音符时,凯特开始哭泣
Johnny hadn't gotten five notes out where Kate began crying.
弹到第九个音符时,换我哭 然后强尼也跟著哭
Nine notes later, I was crying, and then... [chuckles] ...Johnny was crying
而且还继续弹
and playing at the same time.
真的是技艺高超
It was a mitzvah.
他用音乐来致敬这个大屠♥杀♥的故事
He had honored that story of the Shoah through music.
我认识小提琴手伊萨克帕尔曼
I knew Itzhak Perlman, the violinist,
已经好几十年了,应该吧
for a couple of decades, I guess.
当史蒂芬和我意识到 我们需要一位小提琴手时,我说
And the minute Steven and I realized we needed a violinist, I just said,
“那就要找现役顶尖的小提琴手 就是伊萨克帕尔曼”
"We should get the best one right now that's playing is Itzhak Perlman."
讽刺的是伊萨克,这麽多年来
The ironic thing was that Itzhak, for many years,
我到处都会在音乐会上 见到他,他总是对我说
I would see him at concerts here and there and he would always say to me,
“约翰,你何时要给我一部 有小提琴独奏的电影?”
"John, when are you going to give me a film with a violin solo?"
我说:“有机会的话就会给你 伊萨克,总有一天会的”
I said, "I will, it'll come, Itzhak. One day we'll have it."
我总算打给他讲《辛德勒的名单》的事
And finally, I called him up about Schindler's List.
我说:“伊萨克 有一部电影要给你,机会终于来了”
I said, "Itzhak, I have a movie for you. Finally found one."
我说:“让我考虑一下”
And I said, "Let me think about it."
然后我跟我的妻子桃比说...
(伊萨克帕尔曼) (小提琴手)
So, then... [chuckles] ...then I told my wife, Toby, and I said to her,
...“桃比,是约翰威廉斯打来的,他是...” 我跟她说来龙去脉
"Toby, this was John Williams, and he was..." And I told her about this story.
我跟他说自己要考虑一下
And I told him that I was gonna think about it.
然后她说:“你跟他说你要考虑一下?
Then she said, "You told him that you were gonna think about it?
一部有约翰威廉斯的配乐 史蒂芬史匹柏执导的电影
A film score by John Williams, a movie by Steven Spielberg,
要你加入,你还跟他说 自己要考虑一下?”
and you're gonna be involved and you told them you were gonna think about it?"
于是隔天,我打给他说:“好,我愿意”
So the next day, I think I called him up and I said, "Okay, I'll do it."
天啊,还好我答应了
And boy, was I happy that-that I said "Yes."
(《辛德勒的名单》录音现场)
(史蒂芬史匹柏的自♥拍♥影片)
我只能说我可以环游世界
All I can tell you is that I can go all over the world,
人们唯一特别要求我的一件事
and the only thing that people ask specifically from me,
就是“你能表演 《辛德勒的名单》的主题曲吗?”
is "Can you play the theme from Schindler's List?"
大家都对那首主题曲感动不已
Everybody just gets so moved by that theme.
(2016年,美国电影学会终身成就奖 向约翰威廉斯致敬)
(西蒙波特) (小提琴手)
(1992年《远离家园》,朗霍华德执导)
我首次和约翰合作《远离家园》时...
The first time that I worked with John on Far and Away,
(朗霍华) (电影制♥作♥人)
...我说:“为何音乐能打动人心?”
I said, "Why does music work the way it works?"
他说:“我真的不知道”
He said, "I don't really know."
他说:“有很多理论 其中有一个我很喜欢
He said, "There are a lot of theories and one I kinda subscribe to
就是它能重现原始的声音”
that it gets back to primal sounds."
在人类的起源故事裡 声音对我们来说意义重大
That in our origin story as human beings, sounds meant a great deal to us.
它们能带来安宁和平静感
They could bring us peace and a sense of serenity
或是可以警告我们有危险,必须逃跑
or they could alert us to danger and the need to run.
敲击声可以是一场地震
Percussion could be an earthquake.
也可以是巨石崩落
It could be rocks tumbling down.
鸟鸣声可以预示空气中瀰漫著爱意
Birds could signal a sense of romance in the air.
而这位艺术家以最细腻的方式
And here's an artist who understands, in the most nuanced terms,
懂得如何用音乐辅助故事
how to support a story through music.
他是世上最伟大的管絃乐拥护者
He is the greatest champion of orchestral music in the world
因为他的配乐重新勾起 我们对于管絃乐的美好印象
because his scores reawaken in us the beauty of the orchestra.
这对我们音乐家来说当然也是很棒的礼物
This is, of course, also a great gift to us musicians.
(安娜苏菲穆特) (小提琴手)
他是少数几个