配乐大师：约翰·威廉姆斯（2024）

真的是很了不起的事
would deliver all that in the space of one year.
这就有点像是在讲到披头四时
It's a little bit like when you're talking about The Beatles.
任何一首披头四的歌♥都会成为 其他乐团最伟大的作品
Like, any one song from The Beatles would be any other band's greatest thing
而且下半辈子再也不需要做别的歌♥了 约翰就是这麽厉害
and they would live off that forever. John is like that.
他的任何一首配乐可以说是
Any one of his scores arguably
其他作曲家想达到的毕生成就
would be any other composer's accomplishment of a lifetime.
人们问我《星球大战》爆红后 对我的人生造成什麽影响
People ask me how my life was changed by the sudden success of Star Wars,
我得说自己接过一通电♥话♥,对方说
and I have to say that I received a call saying,
“你要来一趟安那罕体育场 那裡有六万多人...”
"You have to come to the Anaheim Stadium which has 60,000 people or more there.
“...祖宾梅塔跟洛杉矶爱乐乐团 要在这裡...”
And Zubin Mehta is going to do a concert of your music, Star Wars music,
“...用你的音乐、《星球大战》的音乐 举办音乐会”
with the Los Angeles Philharmonic at the stadium."
不久之后
A short time after that,
洛杉矶爱乐乐团的经理就说
the management of the Los Angeles Philharmonic says,
“我们希望你能来到好莱坞露天剧场 指挥《星球大战》的音乐”
"We want you to come and conduct at the Hollywood Bowl Star Wars music."
所以《星球大战》的成功 在这辈子影响我最大的地方
So the biggest change in my life that was the result of Star Wars
就是我突然受邀去当客座指挥
was I was suddenly asked to be a guest conductor,
到处和著名的管弦乐团合作
here and there with famous orchestras.
这件事为我的音乐人生开创另一个层面
And it gave birth to a whole other dimension in my musical life.
各位先生女士
Ladies and gentlemen.
大家午安
Good afternoon, everyone.
这是我们的新指挥
This is our new Pops.
小泽征尔在波士顿交响乐团 当了29年的音乐总监
(小泽征尔) (指挥兼音乐总监)
Seiji Ozawa was the music director of the Boston Symphony for 29 years.
(波士顿交响乐团) (1973年至2002年)
他在1980年钦点我 担任波士顿大众管弦乐团的指挥
And he was the one that appointed me conductor of the Pops in 1980.
演奏《星条旗永不落》的波士顿 大众管弦乐团,现在要演奏《星球大战》
(1980年1月10日)
The Boston Pops is moving from The Stars and Stripes Forever to Star Wars.
他们在今天宣布
The orchestra announced today
谱写《星球大战》主题曲
that 47-year-old composer-conductor John Williams,
47岁的作曲家兼指挥,约翰威廉姆斯
who wrote the theme for Star Wars,
要取代已故的亚瑟费德勒 成为波士顿大众管弦乐团的指挥
will replace the late Arthur Fiedler as conductor of the Pops.
是莱诺鼓励他 当波士顿大众管弦乐团的指挥
It was Lionel who really encouraged him to conduct with the Pops.
或许是因为约翰总是想要当指挥
And maybe it was because John always wanted to conduct
却迟迟不敢行动,大概是需要人推一把
and being somewhat shy, probably needed a push.
一定有很多人会问 有谁能接替亚瑟费德勒...
(伊曼纽尔艾克斯) (钢琴家)
I'm sure a lot of people ask who could possibly follow Arthur Fiedler,
...他的音乐早已深植人心
who was such an incredible presence in everybody's mind with... with this music.
但我认为这一路走来并不容易
But I don't think it was always an easy go.
毕竟波士顿的音乐家 很挑剔或是排斥娱乐音乐
I think Boston musicians were critical of entertainment music or wary of it.
管弦乐团很嫌弃演奏电影音乐
The orchestras hated playing film music.
他们认为那是低俗作品
They just thought it was crap.
在我的经验裡,当我在1980年去波士顿时
In my experience, when I went to Boston in 1980,
还是有部分的资深管弦乐团成员
there was an overlap of older memberships in the orchestra
依旧不懂得欣赏和排斥
that still had that lack of appreciation and resistance
他们非常不认同的音乐类型
to that kind of repertoire where they were very disapproving.
在某种程度上来说,我认为那样很不专业
To the extent that I thought that that was unprofessional.
(1984年6月14日) (约翰担任四年的指挥后)
波士顿大众管弦乐团长♥期♥的内部纷争
A long simmering dispute over the behavior of the Boston Pops Orchestra
终于在今天曝光
他们宣布指挥约翰威廉斯已经请辞
消息人士指出最后一根稻草
是昨天管弦乐团在排练时 表现出失控的行为
据说乐手们对威廉斯的音乐选曲发出嘘声
也没有专心排练
波士顿大众管弦乐团的总经理 汤玛斯莫里斯今天表示
他深表遗憾地接受威廉斯的请辞
当时我一度请辞的这件事
The episode, where I had a resignation at one point,
是针对团员的态度和表达方式
was the result of conversations with them
与他们沟通过后所产生的结果
about their attitudes and about their manner of expressing it.
我认为电影音乐当时被音乐家 尤其是音乐会音乐家
I think film music was looked at by... certainly by concert musicians
视为不入流的作品
as a bastard art.
一门低级艺术
As a low art.
长大成人后...
(马友友) (大提琴手)
...我一直苦恼于为何在不同的音乐之间
Growing up I was always troubled with why there are so many walls
有这麽多的隔阂
between the different parts of music.
无论是电影音乐、音乐会音乐 巴洛克音乐或是当代音乐
Whether it's film music, concert music, or baroque music or contemporary music.
但约翰一直努力达到真正地海纳百川
But John has made it his business to actually encompass all of that.
他虽然没有抹除那条界线
He has, if not erased that dividing line,
却把界线弄得相当模糊
he has made it so blurry,
应该没有人可以再分辨得出来
I don't think anyone knows where it is anymore.
这要提到艾灵顿公爵
It goes back to Duke Ellington,
他说:“音乐只有两种 好音乐和坏音乐”
who said, "There's only two types of music, good music and bad music."
约翰在这股变化中应该是重要人物
And I think John has been a... a leading light in that happening.
我认为常驻的受聘管弦乐团成员
I think certainly a seated orchestra that are tenured correctly
的确能对他们演奏的曲目有发言权
have a voice in the repertoire that they play.
但在某种程度上也不该排斥
But also should not resist, to a certain extent,
新的创意点子 或是不同指挥想带给他们的东西
the creative ideas that a new or different conductor might want to bring to them.
管弦乐团是一个有人性的大家庭
An orchestra is a human family.
是团队努力的成果
It's a community effort.
波士顿大众管弦乐团的指挥人选已定...
The search for a new Boston Pops conductor is over
(1984年8月2日) (约翰请辞后过了六週)
...因为约翰威廉斯答应重返乐团
now that John Williams agrees to come back to the job.
威廉斯当初因艺术和创意分歧而请辞
但显然事情已圆♥满♥落幕
威廉斯表示:“我对管弦乐团和团员们
只怀著最深的敬意和真挚的感情”
从好莱坞制片厂来到波士顿的过程 令我相当满意
Going from Hollywood studios to Boston was very, very satisfying
当我们实际在录音室演奏时,可以这麽说
in the sense that in Hollywood there's no audiences of film
现场没有看电影的观众
when we're working in a clinical studio setup, if you'd like.
然而到了波士顿大众管弦乐团 现场有管弦乐团和观众
Whereas going to Boston Pops there's an orchestra, there's an audience.
音乐被赋予生命
The music is brought to life.
人们会鼓掌
People applaud.
对于一个从未见过观众来获得一些掌声
And for the wounded ego of a Hollywood composer
自尊心受伤的好莱坞作曲家来说
who never sees an audience to get some applause,
来波士顿见到现场这群 捧场的观众真的很美好
it's lovely to go to Boston and have a marvelous audience there.
大多数的古典音乐界的人都同意这项观点
Most of the rest of the classical world has come around to the idea that,
就是他确实是出色的创新作曲家
yes, this is a brilliant and original composer.
他在扶持管弦乐团这方面
Someone who has also done an incredible service
也有卓越的贡献
in terms of supporting orchestras.
在现在这个历史阶段上 任何轻视电影音乐的人
And anyone who looks down on film music now at this stage of history
我认为他们没有认真思考
I think is just not thinking seriously.
在我小时候,报纸上的 《超人》漫画深受欢迎
When I was a little boy, Superman cartoon was very popular in the newspapers
以前我都会看
and I used to read it all the time.
(1978年《超人》,李察唐纳执导)
所以要想著披风和那些东西 来创作电影主题曲
So, the idea of writing that theme with the cape and all the things,
让我非常乐意
I loved doing that.
那是什麽东西?
What the hell is that?
冷静点,小姐,我接住妳了
Easy, miss. I've got you.
你接住我?
You've got me?
那谁接住你?
Who's got you?
我爱克里斯和玛格
I love Chris and Margot.
他们在那场爱情戏裡一起飞
They flew together. That love scene.
我迫不及待要开始创作
I mean, I couldn't wait to get my hands on that
做一首升空戏的主题曲
and make a... ...an ascending thematic piece.
我对约翰威廉斯深怀感激
I owe a tremendous debt of gratitude to John Williams.
少了他的音乐,超人的力量就会大幅减少
Without his music, Superman's powers are greatly diminished.
相信我,若你在少了主题曲的情况下飞行
Believe me, if you try to fly without that theme...
哪裡都去不了
...you go nowhere.
飞个一两下就掉下来了
One step, two steps, and... [whistles] ...down.
强尼的音乐具有抒情性
(凯瑟琳甘迺迪) (电影制♥作♥人)
There's a lyricism to Johnny's music.
(1981年《法柜奇兵》 史蒂芬·斯皮尔伯格执导)
举例来说,为哈里逊写主题曲 让他乐在其中
For example, he has so much fun writing themes for Harrison.
哈里逊福特拥有一种能力,只要轻吐舌头
Harrison Ford has this ability to do the most dramatic scenes
或露出欣喜的眼神 就能呈现最戏剧化的表演
with this slight tongue in his cheek or twinkle in his eye.
我要去追那辆卡车
I'm going after that truck.
怎麽追? - 不知道,我要边走边想
How? - I don't know. I'm making this up as I go.
那给了约翰很多创作灵感
That gives John a lot to write for.
Hyah, hyah!
约翰威廉斯和我是旧识了 因为我爸和他一起当过兵
(法兰克马歇尔) (电影制♥作♥人)
John Williams and I go way back, 'cause my dad and he were in the army together.
他们都是军队乐团成员
In the army band together.
我爸弹吉他,强尼弹钢琴
My dad played guitar and Johnny played piano.
强尼总是会来我们家
And Johnny was always over at our house.
所以我从小就认识约翰威廉斯了
So, I'd known John Williams since I was a kid.
但可以跟他一起合作电影
But to get to work with him on a movie,
是我这辈子最美好的一个时刻
that was just one of the most wonderful moments of my life.
《法柜奇兵》的配乐是强尼在伦敦
On Raiders of the Lost Ark, Johnny did the score in London
和伦敦交响乐团一起做的
with the London Symphony Orchestra.
音乐令人血脉贲张
The music was pulse pounding.
配乐的细微差异
The nuance of the score.
音乐刻划细节