他们没有躲在会议后面
Instead of being behind a conference,
他们走到了街上去
go out on the streets.
没有躲在教堂大楼后面
Instead of being behind the church building,
而是走近人群 就好像我们在用不同的方式做这件事
go out to the people. Like we're just doing it a different way.
大家好!
Hello, everybody!
大家好!
- Hello, everybody! -
这是我们第二次年度自♥由♥游♥行♥
This is our second annual Freedom March.
我们当中有些人环游了世界
Some of us have traveled all across the world.
所有这些不同的面孔 这些不同的种族
All these different faces, all these different races
来表达观点
to come and make a stand,
让人们知道自♥由♥就在这里
to come and let people know that freedom is here.
掌声送给自♥由♥游♥行♥的 领导人杰弗里麦卡尔
Give it up for the leader of Freedom March, Jeffrey McCall.
这次的愿景是那些 放弃性少数群体的生活
The vision of this is just sharing testimonies
与上帝相遇的人
of people that left the LGBTQ lifestyles,
来分享见证
that had an encounter with God.
我们在这里一起分享我们的故事
And we're here together to share our stories.
祷告有用!
Prayer works!
我站在这里宣告耶稣基♥督♥的名
And I stand here proclaiming the name of Jesus Christ,
他是主 我爱耶稣!
that He is Lord, and I love Jesus!
你有没有躺在地板上说: “耶稣 把这个从我身上带走
Have you laid on the floor and said, "Jesus, take this away from me
因为我要跟随你 耶稣 我想成为你的儿子或女儿”
because I wanna follow you, Jesus. I wanna be your son or daughter."
主耶稣 奉耶稣基♥督♥的名 我们可以获得自♥由♥
Lord Jesus, there is freedom in the name of Jesus Christ.
我相信今天有什么在这里诞生了
I believe that something is being birthed out of here today.
天父 我请求你将我们团结成征服者
Father, I ask that you will unite us as overcomers.
主 我们希望你回到美国的前线
Lord, we want you back in the forefronts of America.
奉耶稣的名 感谢你 天父
In Jesus' name, we thank you, Father.
奉耶稣的名
In Jesus' name.
一个男同性恋
Shortly after coming out,
出柜后不久
a gay person
他非常直率地说 我的双手沾满了鲜血
said very bluntly and directly that I had blood on my hands.
他说:“你对你手上的血怎么看?”
He said, "What do you think about the blood on your hands?"
我回答:“现在…
I said, "Right now…
我只知道我害怕低头看自己的手”
all I know is I'm afraid to look down at my hands."
作为一名领导者 我所接受的培训是承认损失
As a leader, I had been trained to acknowledge the loss
但要合理化损失 学会否认
but to rationalize it away, to go into denial.
我很厌恶自己那么做
And I hate that I did that.
对于很多没有自杀的人来说
And for many people who don't commit suicide,
我们不接受上帝创造出的我们的样子
we're killing ourselves internally
就等于在内心永远杀死了自己
by not embracing who God created us to be.
我们在天上的造物主 愿人都尊你的名为圣
Our Creator, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name.
愿你的国降临 愿你的旨意行在地上
Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done,
如同行在天上
on Earth as it is in heaven.
我们日用的饮食
Give us this day our daily bread,
今日赐给我们
and forgive us our trespasses,
免我们的过犯 如同我们免了人的过犯
as we forgive those who trespass against us.
我不能评论过往时讲:
I can't look back and say,
“这值得原谅”或者“我值得原谅”
"This deserves forgiveness," or "I deserve forgiveness,"
因为我不值得
'cause I don't.
我做的事是错的
What I did was wrong.
大错特错
It was so wrong.
当你终于意识到 你造成了多大的伤害时
When you finally realize how much harm you've done,
那一刻简直令人崩溃
it's a crushing realization.
那是一种毁灭性的感觉
It's a devastating feeling.
但道歉能达到的效果有限
But apology only goes so far.
你不可能回到过去 把想当前同性恋的那些人
You really can't go back and give people back those years
浪费的那些年还给他们
that they wasted trying to be ex-gay.
你能做的就是 从现在开始
All you can do is, from this point forward,
积极反对这件事 强烈地反对它
speak out against it, and speak out strongly against it.
直接对着镜头说话
Talk directly to the camera.
我想让你跟你的前同事
I want you to talk to your former colleagues
谈谈他们目前仍然在做的这项工作
about what they're still doing with this type of work.
我以前是个虔诚的信徒 和你们一样
Well, I used to be a true believer, just like you did.
我绝对认为我们做的是对的
I mean, I absolutely thought that what we were doing was right,
但这件事只会粉碎灵魂
but all it does is crush souls.
会毁了人们的生活
It crushes peoples' lives.
我不能忍♥受我是其中的一部分
I can't stand that I was a part of it,
我希望你们能有同理心和同情心
and I would hope that you would have the empathy and compassion
明白这只会造成伤害
to see that all it does is damage.
好了 深呼吸
Okay, take a deep breath.
我们在上帝面前一起见证
We've come together in the presence of God to witness
并祝福阿曼达和朱莉
and bless the joining together
迈向神圣的婚姻殿堂
of Amanda and Julie in holy matrimony.
我遭受了创伤
I suffered trauma,
这绝对导致了极端形式的自我憎恨
and it definitely resulted in extreme forms of self-hatred,
但我活下来了
but I survived.
我很高兴 我找到了我深爱的人
I'm really happy, and I found somebody that I love so much.
我们很幸福 但并不是所有人都幸福
And we're doing well, but not everybody is.
前同性恋领导人在做 他们认为对我们所有人最好的事情
Ex-gay leaders are doing what they believe is the best thing for all of us.
问题是 他们认为完整和健康意味着
The problem is that they think whole and healthy means
努力让我们适应成为不可能成为的人
trying to fit ourselves into something we can't be.
我希望他们能听我们的
I wish that they would listen to us
相信我们所说的
and believe us when we say
我们现在不参与那些事情了
that we really are so much healthier and happier
真的更健康、更快乐了
now that we're no longer a part of that.
上帝创造你们是为了让你们彼此交融
God created you for communion with one another.
而这种交融的最高表达 将是你们的婚姻
And the highest expression of this communion will be your marriage.
你可以亲吻新娘了
You may kiss your bride.
非常感谢你分享你的故事 谢谢你 朱莉
Thank you so much for sharing your story. Thanks, Julie.
只要恐同症在这个世界上还存在
As long as homophobia exists in this world,
像出埃及这样的团体就会出现
some version of Exodus will emerge.
因为它不是一种组织
Because it's not the organization,
甚至不是他们使用的方法
and it's not even the methods that they use.
这是一种潜在的信念
It's the underlying belief
即同性恋在本质上
that there is something intrinsically disordered
有一些紊乱的东西是值得改变的
and change-worthy about being gay.
只要恐同继续存在
As long as that continues to exist,
就会出现某种形式的团体
there will be some form of this.
仅在美国,就有大约七十万人 接受过某种形式的转化疗法
一项全国调查发现,经历过 转化疗法的青少年性少数群体,
企图自杀的可能性是其他人的两倍多
仅在美国,就有大约七十万人 接受过某种形式的转化疗法
里奇切莱特和安妮保克 拒绝了我们的采访请求
谨以此片献给 在转化疗法中幸存下来的人
特别是那些不幸逝去的人
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