这对她没有帮助,外面聚集这麽多人
And they didn't help her by having this whole crowd outside
播放他的音乐
playing his music.
然后我们出来
And then when we came out,
我不需要听大家跟我说 他们有多爱披头四
I didn't need to hear people telling me how much they loved the Beatles
或诸如此类的话,因为我们才刚失去约翰
or any of that when we'd just lost John.
因为我不是去那裡见披头四成员
'Cause I wasn't there to see a Beatle.
我是去见我这位无关乎乐团的朋友
I was there to see my friend not relating to this band.
这是洋子在1980年12月9日写的
This is what Yoko wrote on December 9, 1980.
“我们不会替约翰举办葬礼
"There is no funeral for John.
本週稍晚,我们将安排一个时间默哀 为他的灵魂祈祷”
Later in the week, we will set a time for a silent vigil to pray for his soul."
而约翰将被火化
With John, he was to be cremated
他的骨灰至今仍存放在一个祕密的地方
and his remains, to this day, remains in an undisclosed place.
蓝侬突然遇害,没有明显动机
Lennon's sudden murder without any apparent motive
他最亲近的人亟欲知道答桉
leaves those closest to him desperate for answers.
我从未说过这件事
I've never expressed this before.
洋子曾请求我一件事
One of the things that Yoko asked me
就是调查各种理论
was to look into the various theories,
也就是约翰遇害后的那些阴谋论
the conspiracy theories after John's murder.
有些人认为 蓝侬遇害背后有看不见的力量
Some believed hidden forces might be behind Lennon's murder.
(美国超越了所有种族灭绝纪录)
在1970年代 他是美国政♥治♥圈中直言不讳的人物
In the 1970s, he was an outspoken figure in American political life,
动员许多追随者反对尼克森总统
mobilizing his huge following against President Nixon
以及越战
and the war in Vietnam.
我们来这裡是要把男孩们带回家 别忘了那些枪砲武器
We're here to bring the boys home, but let's not forget the machines.
把枪砲武器带回家,才算是真正有进展
Bring the machines home, and then we'll really get somewhere.
他们两个认为达科他公♥寓♥
The two of them were convinced that the Dakota building,
他们所居住的公♥寓♥区遭到监听
their apartment area, was being bugged.
无庸置疑地
There is no question
这个国家的情报单位
that the intelligence agencies of this country,
无论是中♥央♥情报局 联邦调查局、国♥家♥安♥全♥局
be it CIA, FBI, National Security,
或其他单位,他们在做这件事
a variety of others, were doing that.
我知道接电♥话♥时,电♥话♥是正常的
I know the difference between the phone being normal
还有每次我接电♥话♥时
when I pick it up and when every time I pick it up,
有很多噪音的差别
there's a lot of noises, you know.
我开门,有些人就站在街道的另一侧
And I'd open the door and there'd be guys standing on the other side of the street.
我上车,他们就跟着我
I'd get in the car, and they'd be following me.
我突然发现这是来真的
Suddenly I realized this was serious, you know.
他们无所不用其极地冲着我来
They were coming for me one way or the other.
约翰和洋子的偏执其来有自
John and Yoko's paranoia was well-founded.
这些联邦调查局档桉重达约12公斤
These FBI files, 26 pounds of them,
由乔恩维纳取得,清楚地显示蓝侬
obtained by author Jon Wiener clearly reveal Lennon
被尼克森当局视为政♥治♥威胁
was considered a political threat by the Nixon administration.
有数百页的资料
There are hundreds and hundreds of pages
是由理查尼克森写给联邦调查局局长
written to the director of the FBI from Richard Nixon,
上头决定约翰和洋子
where it was determined that John and Yoko
要受到跟踪、监视
were to be followed, monitored,
他们採取政♥府♥最高层级的措施
and steps were taken on the highest level of government...
(所有极端分子都应被视为危险人物)
要解决蓝侬的问题
to do something about the Lennon problem.
没人给过和平一个完整的机会
Nobody's ever given peace a complete chance.
甘地尝试过,马丁路德金恩尝试过 但他们都遭到枪杀
Gandhi tried it and Martin Luther King tried it, but they were shot.
如果蓝侬之死有第三者涉入
If a third party was behind Lennon's death,
马克查普曼可能是如何参与其中?
how might Mark Chapman have been involved?
MKUltra是一个 中♥央♥情报局祕密计画的代号♥
MKUltra is the code word for a secret CIA project
计画中,一些毫无防备的人 被用来进行精神控制实验
in which unsuspecting people were used in mind control experiments.
世界知名催眠专家密尔顿克莱恩博士
Dr. Milton Kline, a world expert in hypnosis,
是中♥央♥情报局MKUltra计画中的关键人物
was a significant part of the CIA's MKUltra program.
大多数涉及情报行动的政♥府♥机构
Most government agencies concerned with intelligence operations
一直在寻求将催眠作为
have been looking to hypnosis as a tool
执行某些情报行动的工具
to execute certain intelligence operations.
克莱恩博士之后 将在查普曼被监禁期间探访他
Dr. Kline will later visit Chapman during his incarceration
并加入他的辩护团队
and become part of his defense team.
文件清楚地显示,中♥央♥情报局试图培养
Documents clearly show that the CIA was attempting
他们能儘可能控制的特务
to develop agents over whom they had as much control as possible.
这是迄今所揭露最接近洗♥脑♥的实验
It is the closest experimentation to brainwashing yet disclosed.
中♥央♥情报局深受精神控制的想法吸引
The CIA was fascinated by the idea of mind control,
有些人认为这在 罗伯特甘迺迪暗♥杀♥桉中扮演一部分角色
and some believed it had a role to play in Robert Kennedy's assassination.
索罕说他记得
Sirhan says he remembers
刺杀桉当晚他人在饭店
being at the hotel the night of the killing.
他记得他为一个漂亮女生倒咖啡
He remembers pouring coffee for a pretty girl,
接下来记忆就一片空白
and then he goes blank.
索罕记得当时走过一个放满镜子的壁龛
Sirhan remembered then walking through an alcove filled with mirrors,
那些镜子让他头晕目眩
and he was dazed by the mirrors.
辩方认为有人让他进入催眠状态
The defense believes they put him into a form of hypnotic trance.
索罕记得他的第一个反应 是要跟甘迺迪握手
Sirhan remembered his first reaction was to shake hands with Kennedy,
但当人群冲向他时,他拔出了枪
but then as the crowd rushed at him, he pulled the gun.
查普曼射杀蓝侬后的反常行为
Chapman's unusual behavior immediately after shooting Lennon
是主责警探朗恩霍夫曼主要担忧的事
is a key concern for lead detective Ron Hoffman.
他是单独犯桉吗?
Was he alone?
有人在暗中操控他吗?
Was somebody working behind the lines with him?
有共谋吗?
Was it a conspiracy?
这些问题开始在我和其他人的脑海中闪过
All these questions started running through my mind and everybody else's mind.
我们派了团队去夏威夷
We sent the team to Hawaii
访谈他目前的朋友和亲戚
to interview his current friends and relatives.
我们跟他的家人谈过
We spoke to his family.
我们跟所有能找到且认识他的人谈过
We spoke to everybody that we could find that knew him.
他通常都很安静,他是个很好的员工
He was very quiet most of the time, and he was a very good worker.
说话轻声细语、安静、聪明的年轻人
Soft-spoken, quiet, intelligent young man.
他...非常聪明,非常冷静
He-- Very intellectual. Very level-headed
从很多方面来说 查普曼的生活仍是一团迷雾
In many ways, Chapman's life remains a jumbled mosaic.
他的朋友仍在试图理解这一切
His friends are still trying to put together the pieces,
也仍在想
are still wondering,
“他们这些年所认识的马克查普曼
"Could the Mark Chapman they have known here these last several years
真的跟被控杀害 约翰蓝侬的凶手是同一人吗?”
really be the same man who now stands accused of John Lennon's murder?"
查普曼依然是个谜
Chapman remains a puzzle,
全球媒体也跟警方一样渴望瞭解他
and the world's media are as eager as the police to understand him.
他们很快就找到跟他最亲近的其中一个人 希望能揭露更多资讯
They soon track down one of those closest to him in the hope of revealing more.
今天下午,一名警卫派驻在
A guard was posted this afternoon
查普曼夫妇位于21楼的公♥寓♥
at the Chapmans' 21st-floor apartment.
查普曼的妻子,婚前名为葛萝莉亚安倍
Chapman's wife, the former Gloria Abe,
据报跟一位女性友人在屋内
is reported to be inside with a woman friend,
拒绝记者採访
declining to speak with reporters.
今早约7点,我们靠近这道门
We approached the door at about 7:00 this morning
当时尚未有警卫派驻,而我们听到了哭声
before the guard was posted, and heard crying.
媒体让她无法招架
She was so overwhelmed by the media.
她需要法律协助,所以她打给我
She needed legal help, and she called me.
所以我觉得最有效的方法就是 将所有媒体聚集在一起
So, I thought the most effective way was to get all the press together in one room,
(律师,布鲁克哈特)
让他们想问多少问题就问,然后到此为止
let them ask as many questions as they wanted to and be done with it.
身为披头四的歌♥迷
Being a Beatles fan,
我也为约翰蓝侬之死哀悼 并为他的妻子洋子和他的儿子西恩
I mourn the death of John Lennon and feel great sadness for his wife,
感到极度悲伤
Yoko, and his son, Sean.
我只想说,我非常遗憾这种事发生在
I just want to say that I'm just very, very sorry that this had to happen to
小野洋子和她的家人身上 她的丈夫必须这样死去
Yoko Ono and her family, and that her husband had to die.
当我听到她说
When I heard her saying, you know,
“很遗憾他必须这样死去”
"It's a great shame that he had to die,"
我不确定是不是因为葛萝莉亚用词不慎
I wasn't sure whether that was Gloria's poor choice of words.
因为如果查普曼没有去杀他,他就不用死
Because he didn't have to die if Chapman didn't go and kill him.
我认为这不代表
I don't think it bespoke of any foreknowledge
她预知他会死
that he was going to die.
我认为她当时还无法接受
I don't think she had accepted, at that point,
她丈夫杀了他的事实
the reality that her husband killed him.
葛萝莉亚什麽都没做,也并未以任何方式
Gloria did not do anything or participate in any way
参与这趟行程,她并未有意识地
in this trip in a way in which she did consciously
支持马克的行动
lend any support to Mark's actions.
她没有避免这种直截了当
She didn't waiver much from that straightforward,
实事求是的表达方式
matter-of-fact presentation.
我本来期望能展现更多情绪
I would've expected more emotion.
我想她就是那样的人
I think that's just the way she is.
我是基♥督♥徒,我相信宽恕 是一件非常伟大的事
I'm a Christian, and I believe that forgiveness is one of the greatest things.
我一直觉得自己是非常宽容的人
I've always felt that I'm a very forgiving person.
葛萝莉亚回答了媒体的问题