我隐秘的世界 - 莎拉厂牌的故事（2014）

我想最终我们录了
two and a half times
两遍半的样子
You know I've got very vivid memories
我记得很清楚
of that time of Matt sort of sitting
那时候Matt坐在
in a chair in the corner with his
角落的椅子上
knees lucked under his chin
下巴搁在蜷缩的膝盖上
with a pullover pulled over his head
头埋在套衫里
And Clare biting her lip and saying
Clare则咬着嘴唇说
"I don't like bass turn the bass down"
“我不喜欢贝斯 音量小一些”
But we had fun at the same time I think?
但同时我们也挺开心的
I think we were quite dictatorial
我们当时都挺独♥裁♥的
I think sometimes bands aren't
有时候乐队
the best judge of what their best songs are
没法判断自己的哪首歌♥最好
so I think there's some defense for us
所以我们来挑的时候
in doing that
乐队是有些抵触的
We were kind of you know
我们就像是
really strict editors I suppose
非常严格的编辑
So I do have some sympathy with them but
我挺同情他们的
it was our record label
可厂牌毕竟是我们的呢
I remember reading one review from the 80's
我记得读过80年代一篇
of The Wake and it said something like
有关The Wake的评论说
"The Wake are like if New Order got really, really good"
“The Wake就像变得非常非常好的New Order”
I've always agreed with that
我一直很同意这句话
I've always thought that The Wake
我一直认为The Wake
are kind of what New Order were trying to be
就是New Order试图成为
and kind of fell short of it
却没能成为的那种乐队
When The Wake signed to Sarah
The Wake被Sarah签下时
and we got to meet them it was just like
我们见到了他们
Oh my God you know
哦 上帝
那是Caesar!（*乐队吉他手Gerard "Caesar" McInulty）
The Wake are unusual because
The Wake不同寻常
they had a career before Sarah
在Sarah之前就小有成就
they came from Factory Records
是从Factory跳槽过来的
It was actually through The Orchids
我们是通过The Orchids
that we acquired The Wake if you like
询问The Wake是否想加入
because Caesar from the Wake
因为The Wake主唱Caesar
had produced the first Orchids single
给Orchids制♥作♥了第一张单曲
We sort of fell we had to explain to him
我们觉得应该解释清楚
that we weren't like Factory Records
我们和Factory不一样
just in case he'd got completely the wrong idea
以防他抱有完全错误的想法
and thought he was moving from Factory in a similar label
以为又进了一个类似Factory的厂牌
The Wake's LP they put out on Sarah
The Wake在Sarah出的第一张专辑
is fantastic
简直太无与伦比了
And it's another great example of why
这又是个很好的例子
I don't think there is such a thing
证明Sarah的乐队
as a Sarah band
并非千人一面
You know if anybody said
如果有人说
the Wake are a Sarah band
The Wake就是支Sarah乐队
a jingle jangle, twee pop Sarah band
带噪音的童真流行Sarah乐队
it's just stupidity
那简直太愚蠢了
They're not
完全不是那样
they are amazing
他们就是很棒
Action Painting! were a great kind of
Action Painting! 来自布莱顿
real kind of fuck you band from Brighton
一支无所顾忌的乐队
who loved all the kind of
他们喜欢各式各样的
anorak, cutie kind of music
古怪又可爱的音乐
but had a real attitude to go alongside it
同时又有真正的态度
At the time in Britain there was
当时英国乐坛
an awful lot of shoegaze stuff
充斥着许多钉鞋音乐
There was hangover from the so called
还有acid house 仿佛无数个爱的夏天
umpteenth summer of love, acid house
给人带来的宿醉
There was stuff like The Orb
还有The Orb那样的音乐
everyone was loved up
每个人都沉迷其中
didn't give a toss
完全不管不顾
You know there was no passion
没有真正的激♥情♥
A lot of the people who liked the more
许多人偏爱更抒情的
gentle stuff really didn't like
所以他们不喜欢The Golden Dawn
and then they didn't like Action Painting!
也不喜欢Action Painting!
And then they saw all of those things
他们把那些乐队
as aberrations or anomalies
都视为异类
whereas actually if you
事实上如果你
put them all together
把几个乐队放一起
and then Boyracer later
再加上后来的Boyracer
you've actually got a theme that runs
就能发现贯穿整个厂牌的一个主题
through the whole label of the noisier pop
就是想要更噪音一些的流行乐
and the more sort of fuzz pop
多一些糊糊的流行乐
Punky pop stuff
还有朋克流行
You can't discount all of that I don't think
你无法将它们排除在外 我不觉得你能这么做
I was really excited
签下Heavenly时
when we signed Heavenly
我非常兴奋
because I'd been a big Talulah Gosh fan
我是Talulah Gosh的狂热歌♥迷
the band that most of them
乐队大部分成员
were in before Heavenly
都在那里呆过
Talulah Gosh were like
Talulah Gosh第一次出现时
just about the best pop band in the world
就好像是
when they first appeared
全世界最好的流行乐队
So in Talulah Gosh we all wrote songs
在Talulah Gosh的时候 我们都会写歌♥
and it was fairly democratic and I found
乐队里还是相当民♥主♥的
I didn't like singing the lyrics
我渐渐发现我不喜欢
that other people had written
唱别人写的歌♥词
And therefore in Heavenly said
所以在Heavenly的时候 我就说
OK this is going to be the way
乐队要按照
I want it to be
我想要的方式去做
Because I was like what?
我当时的反应是 你说什么？
Why did Talulah Gosh break up?
为什么要解散Talulah Gosh？
Why did you have to start over?
为什么要从头来过？
She was like
她就回答
oh it just wasn't working out and
这样下去行不通
she said that when she's in the band
她说当她在乐队里的时候
she has to be the dictator
必须成为一名独♥裁♥者
and if it can't work that way then
如果事情没法那样进行
they just had to start over
就得从头来过
And so they did
所以他们就那么做了
But you know
但是你要知道
She's a benevolent dictator
她是一个仁慈的独♥裁♥者
Yeah so I think it was probably fair
所以我想这样可能是公平的
At least I hope it was benevolent
至少我希望仁慈待人
but it probably was dictatorship
但可能确实挺独♥裁♥的
You know it was just so great
在Sarah厂牌里
to have a band on Sarah where
有这样一个由女性主导的乐队
the band was driven by the woman
简直太好了
You know it was women singing
女性在台前唱歌♥
it was women writing the songs
在幕后写词
Everything from the female perspective
一切从女性角度出发
Talulah Gosh were like this perfect
Talulah Gosh就好像是一个完美的
sort of pop punk crossover
流行朋克的融合体
Just perfect
非常完美
absolutely perfect in every way
每个方面都绝对完美
And then with Heavenly what they did is
到了Heavenly他们则变得
they just moved slightly more pop
稍稍又流行了一些
And it was even more perfect
这样就更加完美了
I mean how can that possibly be?
我是说这怎么可能？
How can you get more perfect than perfect?
怎么可能比完美更上一层？
For the first couple of albums
最初几张专辑中
the songs were kind of boy meets girl
歌♥里唱的都差不多都是男孩遇上女孩
kind of quite happy
比较快乐
Then riot girl came along in America
然后Riot Grrrl运动在美国兴起
and we were actually in America when it was
这股风潮席卷美国的时候
just kind of starting to get really big
我们恰好在那里
And we knew all the people involved because
我们认识所有参与其中的人
they were people we knew via K Records
都是之前通过K Records认识的