我隐秘的世界 - 莎拉厂牌的故事（2014）

you'd get some sort of literature attached to that
上面附带一些文学创作
You'd buy this single and
买♥♥的是单曲
there'd be this kind of stuff in it
包含的还有其他东西
about this relationship
揭示了人与人的关系
I suppose we did discuss our relationship
我们确实讨论过这种关系
Yes actually I do remember doing that
事实上我还记得当时的情景
And it's just a really weird thing
一个厂牌会这么做
for a record label to do
真的很奇怪
That's a really odd
它既奇怪
kind of personal thing to do
又很个人化
I think we both really wanted to write
我们当时都很想写东西
and we were both very interested in honesty and that it
又都很忠于诚实
fitted with the record label
这和厂牌的气质很搭
because I think a lot of the songwriters were
因为我认为许多创作歌♥手
you know really opening up their hearts
都非常敞开心扉
and writing quite openly and honestly
创作时对情感关系
about their relationships
非常直率、诚实
And sometimes quite literaturely
有时还很有文学性
I think again that maybe it was a bit of
可能这或多或少
a sort of a feminist thing in it that
有一些女权色彩
you know in that way it's always been OK
男人如果那样谈论性
for men to talk about sex
是没有任何问题的
but it hasn't really been OK for women to
但女人不行
And trying to confront that as well
我们也试图直面这个问题
and pretty much say
说出心声
well women like it too
女人也享受性
I think there was a hit of that in it
这非常关键
I can remember one wonderful gig where
还记得一场很棒的演出
I'd taken some fanzines up to sell
我带了些fanzine去卖♥♥
and just standing at the corner of this 14 Iced Bears gig
14 Iced Bears在台上演出 我站在角落
and not even having to go up to people
都不用挨个找人问
“Fanzine要吗？”
and say“ Do you want to buy a fanzine?"
Just people coming up to me the whole time
一直有人主动跑来问
because that is what the scene
因为那时的音乐场景
was like at the time
就是这样
everybody in a 14 Iced Bears gig
出现在14 Iced Bears演出的人
would be the sort of person
都是那种
who'd want to buy a fanzine
想买♥♥fanzine的人
and would probably go off
可能回去后
and write their own fanzine as well
他们也会有自己的fanzine
so that was just a wonderful sort of atmosphere
这样的演出
to be a gigs like that
氛围太好了
We'd just get drunk and like stoned
我们喝醉呼大
virtually every gig you know
每场演出如此
we'd just go up in a van and
我们坐进面包车
We'd treat it like a party a bit
一路上就派对起来
so we'd end up at gigs
把情绪一直带到演出上
there was one gig we did where
其中一场
the bass player was dribbling over the amp and stuff
贝司手的口水都滴到音箱设备上了
But people don't think of that
可大家不这样想
They think you're a Sarah band
他们觉得你是Sarah的乐队
they think you're really clean cut
应该很规矩
and like not into rock and roll at all
好像一点不喜欢摇滚乐
But maybe that was the problem
可能正因如此
maybe that's why we left
我们才离开了厂牌
But we more into that
可我们也很喜欢
sort of side still as well
自己在Sarah的那一面
The Poppyheads summed up the spirit of the time really
The Poppyheads体现了时代特点
It was stand up drums, fuzzy guitars
突出的鼓点 嗡嗡的吉他
People that couldn't really sing properly
其实不太会唱歌♥
but what the hell
但谁又在乎呢
With the flexi-disc I did on Sha La La
在Sha La La发行薄膜唱片后
one day the post came through the door
有天邮递员上门
and there was an envelope
给了我一个信封
with a Glasgow post mark on it
上面盖着格拉斯哥的邮戳
And when I opened it up there was a copy
我打开
of the Poppyheads flexi in it
是一张The Poppyheads的薄膜
and I thought it was somebody just
我以为有人
returning a faulty copy
把错版退给我
And then I saw something brown in it
我发现里面有褐色的东西
and thought oh somebody's sent me some chocolate
以为是巧克力
Because that's the sort of thing
那时候
that people used to do in those days
的确有不少人这么做
And then I caught the whiff of the smell
然后我闻到难闻的气味
that was coming off it and realized
从信封里散发出来
it was something brown that wasn't chocolate
才意识到不是什么巧克力
That shows you the sort of thing
这些是我们
that we did have to put up with
不得不去承受的
People did have really extreme reactions
人们对我们的一些东西
to some of the stuff we were putting out
会有非常极端的反应
We got quite a lot of dissent
他们的第一张单曲出来时
even by the time of the first single
我们收到过许多差评
People were writing to us saying
人们写信给我们说
Oh we don't like The Golden Dawn
我们不喜欢The Golden Dawn
That doesn't really fit with our idea of
他们的音乐不是我们心中
of what the label you know ought to be like
厂牌该有的样子
And I think people still say to us
现在还会有人问
you never really did like The Golden Dawn did you?
你们从来不喜欢The Golden Dawn吧？
And we both absolutely loved them
但事实上我们非常喜欢
And you know to be honest
实话说
if there had been more bands
如果当时有更多
in that kind of genre who'd come along
那种风格
who we liked as much we would have put
我们也同样喜欢的话
more of that kind of music out
我们会发更多那样的音乐
Because we both really like it
我们真的都很喜欢
I mean we were both huge
举例来说
Jesus and Mary Chain fans for instance
我们都是Jesus and Mary Chain的铁杆歌♥迷
so that sort of Glasgow fuzzy pop sound
那种格拉斯哥式的嗡嗡流行音乐
is right up our street really
真的很对我们胃口
You know it wasn't like the Golden Dawn
The Golden Dawn的音乐
were like Einstürzenden Neubauten or something
并不像Einstürzende Neubauten之类
It was just like distorted guitars
只有失真的吉他
you know people really weren't having it
人们喜欢不了那种音乐
The Springfields are so American
The Springfieds很美国
and America was so far away
而美国离我们太遥远了
I think back then
那时候
You know before we all had the internet
我们还没有互联网
and before flights got stupidly cheap
国际机票也没有那么便宜
So for this little slice of America
所以当美国的小小一角
for that to kind of roll up on your doorstep
出现在门前的台阶上
in a rainy basement flat in Bristol
来到布里斯托的潮湿地下室公♥寓♥
It was like something from
对我们来说就好像
another world in many ways
另一个世界来的东西
And we had to ring them
我们不得不
from the phone box on Blackboy Hill
去街上找电♥话♥亭给他们打电♥话♥
I do remember that
我还记得
That was an international call to Chicago
一通打到芝加哥的国际长途
made at about 8 o'clock at night
大概晚上八点的样子
from a phone box
从电♥话♥亭
With coins
还是投币的
Ringing this bloke in Chicago
打到芝加哥某个街区
who spoke really slowly I remember
电♥话♥里对方还讲得很慢
He does speak very slowly
他的确讲很慢
Speed up! Speed up!
快点！快点！
10P's going in
赶紧再投10便士
So I think we must have got the phone
后来很快我们就
fairly soon after that
给自己安了电♥话♥
I think it did become a bit ridiculous
事情有点搞大了
actually yeah
没错
We made a demo and we sent it to Sarah
我们做了一盘小样寄给Sarah