但是 为什么不呢
But why not?.
雷森迪教授 谁显然是一个无神论者
Professor Radisson, who's clearly an atheist,
不相信道德的绝对性
doesn't believe in moral absolutes,
但他的核心教学大纲说 他计划在
but his core syllabus says he plans to give us an exam
在最后一周对我们进行考试
during finals week.
现在 我敢说 如果我设法为了得到一个"A"
Now, I'm betting that if I manage to get an "A"
在考试中作弊
on the exam by cheating,
他就会突然用上基♥督♥徒的语调 说
he'll suddenly start sounding like a Christian,
坚持"欺骗是错误的"
insisting it's wrong to cheat,
我应该知道这点
that I should have known that.
然而 他的依据是什么
And yet, what basis does he have?.
如果我的所做所为 是为了帮助我成功
If my actions are calculated to help me succeed,
那么 为什么我不应该执行呢
then why shouldn't I perform them?.
对于基♥督♥徒来说 道德的标准
For Christians, the fixed point of morality,
什么是对 什么是错
what constitutes right and wrong,
是一条直线 最终直接向上帝[负责]
is a straight line that leads directly back to God.
哦 所以你说 我们需要一个上帝是具有道德性的
Oh, so you're saying that we need a God to be moral,
一个无神论具有道德是不可能的
that a moral atheist is an impossibility.
不是的 但没有上帝 道德没有任何真正的意义
No, but with no God, uu
我的意思是 甚至不存在
I mean, there's not even a standard
道德行为的标准
of what moral behavior is.
对于基♥督♥徒来说 说谎 欺骗 偷窃
For Christians, lying, cheating, stealing--
拿我举例 我偷拿了并非我自己赚取学分等级
in my example, stealing a grade I didn't earn--
是被禁止的
are forbidden.
它是盗窃的一种形式
It's a form of theft.
但是 如果上帝不存在
But if God does not exist,
陀思妥耶夫斯基[俄♥国♥作家]的名言所说
as Dostoyevsky famously pointed out,
"如果上帝不存在 人可以任意妄为"
"lf God does not exist, then everything is permissible."
虽可妄为 但毫无意义
And not only permissible, but pointless.
如果雷森迪教授是正确的 那么所有一切
If Professor Radisson is right, then all of this,
我们所有的奋斗 我们的辩论
all of our struggle, our debate,
无论我们在这里决定了什么 也是毫无意义的
whatever we decide here is meaningless.
我的意思是 我们的生命和我们的死亡
I mean, our lives and ultimately our deaths
比金鱼也好不了那里去
have no more consequence than that of a goldfish.
这是荒谬的
This is ridiculous.
所以 毕竟你的讨论
So, after all your talk,
你所说的这一切无非归结为
you're saying that it all comes down to choice:
选择相信或不相信
believe or don't believe.
对的 那些就是我想说的
That's right, that's all there is.
那些我想说的也曾发生过
That's all there's ever been.
你我位置之间的唯一区别
The only difference between your position and my position
就是你拿走他们的选择
is that you take away their choice.
你要求他们选择的标题就是 "我不相信"
You demand that they choose the box marked, "l don't believe."
是的 因为我想释放他们
Y es, because I want to free them.
因为宗教就像是一
Because religion is like a--
它就像一记父母遗传
it's like a mind virus that parents have passed on
给他们孩子的病毒
down to their children,
而基♥督♥教就是那最糟糕的病毒
and Christianity is the worst virus of all.
趁我们软弱 生病 无助时
It slowly creeps into our lives
它慢慢地潜入我们的生命
when we're weak or sick or helpless.
因此 宗教就是像一种疾病
So, religion is like a disease?.
是 是的 它感染了一切
Yes. Yes, it infects everything.
它是理性的敌人
It's the enemy of reason.
理性
Reason?.
教授 你在很久以前就没理性了
Professor, you left reason a long time ago.
你在这儿上的不是哲学课
What you're teaching here isn't philosophy.
它甚至也不是无神论课
It's not even atheism anymore.
你所教的是反神论课
What you're teaching is antitheism.
这还不够 你自己不相信
It's not enough that you don't believe.
你还能让我们一起跟你不相信
You need all of us to not believe with you.
你为什么不承认事实
Why don't you admit the truth?.
你只是让他们陷入你的原始迷信中
You just want to ensnare them in your primitive superstition.
我要的是让他们做出自己的选择
What I want is for them to make their own choice.
这才是上帝想要的[赐自♥由♥意志原因]
That's what God wants.
你不知道我有多享受你将要的失败
You have no idea how much I'm gonna enjoy failing you.
哦 但谁才是你真正希望失败的对像 教授
Yeah, but who are you really looking to fail, Professor?.
我还是神
Me or God?.
你恨上帝
Do you hate God?.
这甚至都不是一个问题
That's not even a question.
好了 你为什么恨上帝
Okay, why do you hate God?.
这是荒谬的
This is ridiculous.
你为什么恨上帝 请回答这个问题
Why do you hate God?. Answer the question.
你已经看到了科学的论据
You've seen the science and the arguments.
科学都在支持他的存在
Science supports his existence.
你知道事情的真♥相♥
You know the truth.
那么 你为什么恨他
So, why do you hate him?.
为什么
Why?.!
这是一个很简单的问题 教授
It's a very simple question, Professor.
你为什么恨上帝
Why do you hate God?.
因为他把我身边的一切都夺走了
Because he took everything away from me.
是的 我恨上帝
Yes, I hate God.
我对他只有恨
All I have for him is hate.
你怎么能恨一个人 如果他们不存在
How can you hate someone if they don't exist?.
已经证明不了什么
You've proven nothing.
也许不是
Maybe not.
他们可以去选择
They get to choose.
是上帝已死
Is God dead?.
还是上帝未死
God is not dead.
上帝未死
God's not dead.
上帝未死 上帝未死
God's not dead. God's not dead.
上帝未死 上帝未死 上帝未死
God's not dead. God's not dead. God's not dead.
上帝未死 上帝未死 上帝未死
God's not dead. God's not dead. God's not dead.
约什
Josh!.
约什 约什
Josh. Josh!
你对上帝未死的论证
Your decision to prove God is not dead
极大地影响了我
has affected me greatly.
对此 我很高兴
I'm glad. w
是的 它已经改变了一切
Yes, and it has changed everything.
我已经决定要跟从耶稣
I've decided to follow Jesus.
这很好 马丁
That's great, Martin.
嘿 你知道吗
Hey, you know what?.
你得看看这个
You've gotta check this out.
-好来吧
-Okay. -Come on.
我为什么要带上我的手提箱呢
Why did I have to bring my suitcase?.
没带上 显示你缺少信心
Not bringing it would show a lack of faith.
哦 慈爱的天父 求祢让这辆车可以启动吧
Oh merciful Father, please allow this car to start.
阿门
Amen.
就这样
That's it?.
为什么 难道你有一个比
Why, do you have a better "Lord, please make my car run"
"主啊 求祢让这辆能跑"更好的祝福
blessing that you know?.
没有
No.
那么 就让我们试一下吧
So then, let's give it a try.
好
Okay.
不 不 不 不
No, no, no, no.
先把我们的行李放在后备箱
Put our bags in the trunk first.
大卫 我们用我们的整个生活去实践信仰
David, we spend our entire lives talking about faith.
现在 我要你显示你的信心
Now I'm asking you to show faith.
好
Okay.
-难以置信不 信心
-Unbelievable. -No. Faith.
-上帝是良善的一直
-God is good. -All the time.
-在一直中上帝是良善的
-And all the time?. -God is good.
我甚至都不知道我在这里要干什么
I don't even know what I'm doing here.
我的意思是 你甚至连我是谁都不知道
I mean, it's not like you even know who I am.
在你的整个人生中
You prayed and believed
你一直祷告而且相信
your whole life,
从来没有做错任何事
never done anything wrong,
在你却在这里
and here you are.
你是我所知的那个最好的人 而我是最差的
You're the nicest person I know, I am the meanest.
你有老年痴呆症 我的生活却是完美的
You have dementia, my life is perfect.
请向我解释
Explain that to me.
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